Archive through June 04, 2004

 

Anonymous
 
Can anyone tell me which unit for Dish is best, The Blackbird, The Silver Bullet, or the Fortec. I need to know as soon as possible. Thanks.
 

New member
Username: Skulls

Post Number: 2
Registered: May-04
can someone tell me what company I can go with that is honest and reliable when a fix becomes available.
I was with Satansplayhouse but now there gone.
what happened to them If anyone knows.Please email me at bargamian9@ameritech.net
Thanks
 

Western Canadian
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JOhnssmith the ones I purchased were still in their original packaging. You can try to back petal all you want, but when it's all said and done you are still a BIG F_ckin swindler!!

 

Hamtec
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Walter Brown You seem to the the best person to talk to in here and the most knowledgeable. I have a p5 card I also have a black shadow no 745 board and a ISO nexus programmer is there antthing for these card worth testing I don't care if i get ppv or not.
 

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davehater can you send me a email to emorales@gua.net, sound interesting the para todos option.
 

windup
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hey hamtec

the man you seek, walter brown, the W.B. posted on sunday that he works untill thursday you may have to hang on for your answer. I also do not need the ppv's so does anyone else have the anwser to this question
 

Anonymous
 
Can any one tell me that if directv is working? i have my p4 card, but i dont know if there an active program to get my directv back
 

Shrek
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Nope nothing Public..
 

DSS Man
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what about privately?
 

dss dork
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@windup and hamtec as of now your best option is to wait until the 15th and dont try to mess with your cards you may permanetly damage your cards the new date is 15th but dont hold your breath
 

dss dork
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i just found out what happened to caali777.cali if this your reading post im sorry about what happened i hope you will stil continue to post i know everyone enjoyed your posts and you are very knowlegable so i thought i would write a few notes and let you know what my take is on that situation
 

Anti_Dave_Tv_2004
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Hey guys ...i have posted 3 times in 2 days the day is set .June 15th ..i have confirmation from 4 reliable sources , 3 sites that are very reputable and 1 programmer personaly ..Also i noted that it could be a little sooner or a bit later , we know this game by now lol ...Its money motivated , but also support and reputation are on the line and at risk .Anyone reputable ( this site is one i beleive ) and several others want to be sure that a full package is available with support as well as bins ,fixes,unloopers,programmers etc ,etc
15 short day's we should know for sure .Expect to pay around 3 bill's for a program that will be up for 6 months i recon before serious ecm strikes take place , no word is official and this is speculation ..of course if a flash is made redy we will all post it im sure for those currently in the loop and or trustworthy ..i am over stepping my bounds here with opinion and verified fact as well maybe , so i wil leave it at that ..i so much enjoy reading posts here from guys like dssdork,simple minded and willy brown for past month or so i felt compelled to air what news i was privy to ..as always work hard , test hard , wank hard with DTV !!
P.S. Keep in mind all newer recievers will marry the card upon insertion and a fix may not vbe available anytime soon ..keep um in plastic till the right gear materializes , or end up have a couple hundred dollars in "icescrapers"
 

davehater
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chachos ...what country..?
 

P4HACKERS.INC
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CALLI777 ..I WANT TO SAY (P4HACKERS.INC)&(AO700)
GOT YOUR BACK.AND DSSCENTRAL.NET, DSSCOMMUNITY AND ALL THE TESTER THAT I KNOW THAT WORK SO HARD ON THIS P4/D1 CARD. I HOPE YOU POST SOON TO LET US KNOW THE SITUATION ..THINGS LIKE THOSE HAS TO BE PUBLIC .....YOU WHAT WE SAY ..UNITY MEAN STRENGHT.
 

dss dork
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anti_dave_tv_2004....i have a question i have 9 p5 and 4 p4 cards all my p5 are still in the plastic and one of the i removed from the plastic and inserted it in my converter i was experaminting with it so your saying that card is going to be useless because its married to my receiver?wont the new programmer/loader be able to to unmarry it?also all my p4 cards are married to recievers i cant use those for anything except for a 400 dollar drink coaster's??
 

TXGirl
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I'm interested in purchasing a FTA reciever, but am clueless as to which one to pick! I've seen the pansat, blackbird, silver bullet enforcer, and fortec all advertised-now can anyone tell me the differences between them, what makes one better than the other, and any personal experiences with any/all the above, to help me decide??
Thanks In Advance!
 

Anonymous
 
p4 hacker not to worry freeware will be here within a week a major p4 dump happening soon beleive me! it will be all over the internet you will see won't last long however, dave will be switching immediately after p4 card hack released to the p6 cards.So hack only good for 1 yr tops until dave has swapped his cards,then were screwed again!
 

New member
Username: Jameslei

Toronto, Ontario Canada

Post Number: 8
Registered: Apr-04
Anyone care to comment on the following ad. I
saw in a Toronto newspaper? Worth a try, or should I sit tight with my P4?
..............................................


Home of the
''THE MAGIC BOX''
100% Guaranteed
Uninterrupted Direct TV
or your money back

Go with experience
100's of satisfied clients
since 2001

Modify your receiver so you
will NEVER have to reprogram
your card again.
Eliminate the frustration,
Spring Special $125.00
_____________________________________________
 

dss dork
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anonymos.....what about the p5/d1 are they going to die in about a year as well?
 

Unregistered guest
to the THE BOSS
get a life you dave wantabe
 

IZZyztoy
Unregistered guest
DSS dork
No-one has any real info on the cards, the fixes or the equipment, everyone here is speculating. When the big boys figure they are ready to release a fix, they will let us know.
If you wanna play with the big dogs, you gotta get off the porch.
 

dss dork
Unregistered guest
<--------HAS BEEN OF THE PORCH!!
 

need to know
Unregistered guest
I would like to get off the porch
show me how???
 

windup
Unregistered guest
There is no porch to get off. This fix will be like the hu card fix of old. We will have to drag our butts down to the local industrail unit and get our cards programmed every time they go down and pay a monthly fee (in canada anyway}.
They have not released the fix because they want to make the fix harder to crack than dave could with the p4 cards.
 

Anti_Dave_Tv_2004
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DSSDork , what i meant was not to buy a card that was used in another reciver for testing , once its in , its married , until they have a full program. it will probably take time . The original fix that may come out will be a temp im sure .no real support will be available for months ..that is the word so far ,everyone is thinking 6 months for first crack to get blacklisted ,,hope they are right
 

hey there dude
Unregistered guest
Dss dork the p5 will last a little longer than the p4 as more subs have em (p5) therfore, i would probably go with the p5. Oh both the dumps will happen at same time so your choice what card you get? I know for sure that the p4's life will be very very short, so if buy get one very cheap then who cares! we will all be watching daves tv very shortly! YahOOOOOOOO
 

hey there dude
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Oh IzzY, I don't speculate i make a statement that is fact and time will tell? Trust me these cards won't be around as long as the h and hu thats for sure. There are other hacks out there i know but knowbody wants to share with us, keeping to themselves for the moment, but all will be free shortly!
 

windup
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jameslei
James, ilive in the T.O. area but have not seen
this ad. Was it in the sun or a local paper.
I had my receiver modified for the hu stream and had a really great run with no down time. This could be a similer thing, although the price seems too cheap.Let me know if they posted a phone number or email site or address with this ad
 

Esto from T.O.
Unregistered guest
ditto James Sleigh
 

New member
Username: Jameslei

Toronto, Ontario Canada

Post Number: 9
Registered: Apr-04
WINDUP: Hi. The ad was in the "Buy and Sell" a few days ago - you can get it via the Internet.
I e-mailed the fellow: direct2usatellite@sympatico.ca but have had no answer, and a chum in Tor phoned him (905 456 7543) and left a message but hasn't heard back.
I assume direct2u is in Brampton or somewhere outside Tor. I also assume that IF his system works, we could use our p4's, What do you think?
 

john4949
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I believe that if DTV had another card (p6?) that would be relased soon that they would have skipped the p4/p5 and just waited until the p6 was ready..Someone mentioned that DTV could justiofy this by raising service charges. This doesnt not make very good business sense. Dtv is receiving more and more competition from other sat services like dishnet and especially from digital cable (which doesnt go out when it rains). In such a competetive market,its doubtfull dtv would put itself ion a corner and raise prices well above its competetitors..
 

bolidss
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544444-56332..
 

bolidss
Unregistered guest
where is dave's
 

bolidss
Unregistered guest
65757-66675...
 

hey there dude
Unregistered guest
John 4949 dave has the p6, just waiting till the p4 hack becomes public then you'll see them being released shortly! this card is the same one being used in europe at the moment and hasn't been hacked yet and has been out 2 yrs?
 

windup
Unregistered guest
James, i asked around here and we think you will not hear from this guy. i think this ad has been running since before the hu crash and he is talking about the old data stream. But if he is talking about the new stream you will probably need to give him your reciever and card. The only way i did that last time was because the guy was used by a friend of mine. i would be careful about giving my reciever and card to a stranger
 

Anti_Dave_Tv_2004
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hey there dude .only difference between P4 and P5 is that the P5 /D1 will recieve HD Packets and support high definition , no other difference is known. As for all this P6 talk i think its a ploy to make cracking the P4 seem less entertaining or usefull . I personaly dont care P4 for a year is fine , deal with whatever when the time comes
 

New member
Username: Jameslei

Toronto, Ontario Canada

Post Number: 10
Registered: Apr-04
WINDUP: Thanks. I think you are right. I will pass what you say on to my pal who phoned the guy.
Meanwhile, unless I weaken and sign up with Rogers Cable ($75 Cdn!), I will see what I can do woith my rabbit ears... (I got 2 p4's for $400,
from HU Shack in Tor, but they look used. I need 2 because wife watches different channels!)
 

windup
Unregistered guest
James:I have 2 p4 cards l bought last year for 100 each and they look used too. if you want to check them you can put them in your reciever and on channel 100 the previews will show up. when you channel up you will get a call ext ? this means your cards are not looped but they may now be married to the reciever you tried them in. If the guy in the buy and sell sounds legit to your friend and he trys them let me know.
thanks


Bunny ears, come on james it's 2004 i know
Rogers sucks but get with it man. I use bell expressvu I signed up a long time ago I have two recievers and it only costs $27.30 a month for canadian channels and the kids network programming including tax. check the sun or future shop they have great deals on bell systems.
 

Bronze Member
Username: Jameslei

Toronto, Ontario Canada

Post Number: 11
Registered: Apr-04
WINDUP: Yes, I'll let you know of any developments with the direct2u Brampton(?) guy.
Me low tech? You don't know half of it; my car is a 1982, and until I got a computer I used a 1915 Underwood typewriter... For music I use reel to reel and lp's (now 50c at Goodwill)... With Expressvu, does that mean another dish? Existing one is a pain - I'm scared of heights and it's on the roof. But I have a 6 year old, so
Kids tv would be a blessing! Thanks.
 

windup
Unregistered guest
James: i'm afraid so, you will need your existing dish for dtv when the fix comes, not if it comes.
 

Anonymous
 
Dave is the one providing the new p-4 hack. He is very smart! He privately sells the p-4 p-5 cards to distributors and pockets the cash, thats why he canned the hu cards! He did it once before - when he canned the H crds now he gets all that cash again! there are over 300,000 p4/5 cards on the gray market and he sold them all for 50 bucks a piece. Thats 15 million in his pocket! Smart guy!
 

Wondering
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I am new to this forum. So please excuse me for my ignorance but I am just curious to know who
Dave is exactly? And why does he have so much power in regards to these cards?
 

Calling Bolidss
Unregistered guest
14226-31337 at address 8848h. Rolling key though, so use the higher speed multiplier. We're in odd 100's, all 590. Only Sony with 0005 serie. Send out da troops...

Crunchtime
 

Bronze Member
Username: Jameslei

Toronto, Ontario Canada

Post Number: 12
Registered: Apr-04
WONDERING: I know very little, but I THINK that the name 'Dave' is used to signify the whole Direct TV outfit/company...
 

Wondering
Unregistered guest
Thanks James.
 

biglos187
Unregistered guest
ok wait is this true?? that there is a hack out already??? and it might be public in june 15?? omg please tell me its tru i wanna see my play boy channel lol... and of corse football is coming up . thank you guys if it is true. you guys are the best . thank you all even dave for getting us more determind to crack it. thanks dave( you F**kers) and thanx to everyone that writes and really do care for the public.
 

silent listener
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people please be patient dave is not ready to release the hack for the p4 p5 cards yet there is still hu streams out there still up and running once these are eliminated and he has made a fortune on selling the p4 p5 cards then and only then will he release the skript think about it he makes and sells the cards that you so desperately want
 

THE BOSS ! DAVE
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D A V E
Digital Audio and Video Entertainment

Great job Brainchild ! lmao !
 

windup
Unregistered guest
Dave is or was a bigwig at direct tv, ceo or pres. or something like that.so that is why we always refer to him when talking about direct tv
 

Me too
Unregistered guest
SILENT LISTENER, the hu stream is dead no packets alls you get is the music channels, same as h card? The stream therefore is eliminated and no hu or tv otherwise we would be watching wouldn't we. Yes dave likes to make money off us freebees too they got to make money. Maybe if they make enough off these p4's and 5's they will leave us alone to watch free tv for awhile when a fix is released!
 

THE BOSS !
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IZZYZtoy ....Shut your cockholster you blithering cumdumpster , stick to servicing your crack dealer orally and swallowing gallons of man gravy for fun ...f*cking idiots ...silence now !
 

Anti_Dave_TV_2004
Unregistered guest
Just to let everyone know SatSurvival did not get "Busted" or sell out to DAVE.. Satsurvival is not gone nor is it owned by DAVE , they changed webservers is all ....chill people

http://210.245.151.27/ new satsurvival adress - the server hosed them and took it down
 

IZZyztoy
Unregistered guest
BOSS.. all this foul language , and for what....
do you get off on it ????
does it make you feel like a man?????
or do you express yourself this way because of a lack of intellect and expression ?????
wha'd I ever do to you, loser???
 

New member
Username: Bigsexy

Post Number: 1
Registered: Jun-04
I have 4 p4 cards I purchased awhile back while they were cheap.They dont look used but if they are I am gonna be able to use them?& how can I find out if they are used or not.Also I have 2 cards that just say access & have sattelies on them anyone know what thes r & if they are or will be anygood?Thanks in advance for the info.
 

Daves step brotther!
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HELLO ALL! I been in side and seen it all, all I can say is buy your cards now well there cheap because soon they are going to sky rocket P4/p5 it's all the same.The hack is out but only privatly soon to public, sh-t! Daves coming gotta go!
 

Anonymous
 
I would still like to know what is the better unit for Free to Air - DishNet: The Blackbird, Silver Bullet or the Fortec. I would rather get my DTV back up and running, but I am getting pressure on the homefront. Let me know.
 

Anonymous
 
Will the detonator II work for the new fixes?
 

Anonymous
 
Will the detonator II work for the new fixes?
 

D A V E !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Unregistered guest
HA HA HA HA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
 

D A V E !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
Unregistered guest
HA HA HA HA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
 

keep it comming
Unregistered guest
What alternitave can i use to get tv when I dont have a credit card. My kids are are starting to cut each-other with the rabbit ears. Just came home from the doctors for multiple wounds to the face.help me
 

dave thomas
Unregistered guest
i wouldnt waste your money on those FTA boxs. All they do is intersect the secondary channel the FCC requires. Not the main stream so the channels are scattered/missing. You need a bigger dish to get the missing channels.. no menus, pause between changing channels (varies between receiver and signal strengh) as much as 20 seconds.. I saw one and its truely disappointing.. Get a real receiver from dish or bev and learn it.. free info is everywhere.
 

keep it comming
Unregistered guest
any one Please.????
 

D. H. S [NOC]
Unregistered guest
p4 3m coming soon in testing to make sure they dont dissappoint you folks. currently on the down low. you here me DAVES BOSS!!! WIDE OPEN like YOUR MOM & YOUR WIFE being ripped wide open.hehehehe muahahaha muahahahhaha
 

Dr.Bob
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davehater... i live in an area where cable channels 1-70 are analog. I am interested in a couple of your Sci-As. please shoot me an email to discuss some possible buisiness amiebear8479@hotmail.com ...thanks
 

stoner2399
Unregistered guest
Hi all I like the forums seen a link to it in the forums at http://www.dss-testing.tk this site is alot better you guys crack me up
 

soylent green is people
Unregistered guest
jesus and mary, joseph the carpenter, rachel, mother of the jews... this site has become a forum for the insane...
 

WINDUP
Unregistered guest
KEEP IT COMING
DISH NET WILL SET YOU UP WITH LEGAL PROGRAMMING WITHOUT A CREDIT CARD JUST GO TOhttp://www.dish-network-directv-specials.com/dish-net.aspx
PROVIDED YOU LIVE IN THE USA
 

without tv sucks
Unregistered guest
when scripts are up and working do you guys actually pay these companies for them?
 

windup
Unregistered guest
Some people pay for scripts. Somepeople use the ones from the internet. The ones from the internet
do not last long and could cause damage to your reciever. If you find a good supplier of scripts you just pay your money, keep your mouth shut, and enjoy the ride
 

I.P. Nightly
Unregistered guest
I see dead people
 

john4949
Unregistered guest
There are sites where you pay a yearly membership fee. I paid 100 bucks for a yr membership for hu codes plus support (most sites have message boards where members can ask for help and discuss all you ever need to know about free tv)...The site i used is down now...Im gonna wait until lots of people confirm a particular site is legit b4 i send them my $$$
 

john4949
Unregistered guest
I would never download codes from an unsecure site..You never know what the hell your getting..Always let some else be the guinee pig...
 

New member
Username: R_sole

Post Number: 1
Registered: Jun-04
Hi all,
first of all I would like say thanks for the info and the laughs, I have been folowing for a while now. I just picked up a new P5 from Ebay and would like to offer the folowing advice: get your cards as soon as possible, when the hu stream ended there were over 800 P4/P5 cards on ebay selling for about 120 each, there is still no 'fix' and cards are a lot more reasonable (I paid $50 us) but there are only 200 cards now on ebay with a fix due out less than 2 weeks, prices are going to go balistic! BUT make sure you get a sealed card, if the ebay-er says "I tried the card and it gets the preview channels" then he/she has put the card into the ird they are married!and the first hack will likley not be able to 'divorce' them! and you will once again be TV- less. get your NEW cards and hang on to them till the fix is out (no I am not selling anything) good luck to all...12 days and counting!
 

New member
Username: Hamtec

Post Number: 1
Registered: Jun-04
I read a posting that someone was asking who Dave was. In Canada we know dave as a fellow hacker that introduced dtv to canadians and was the best hacker to date. Dave lived in winnipeg and was the biggest dealer in canada. He was busted by the cop and put on trial in the US and lost. Instead of lossing everything and going to jail DTV droped all charges and gave him a job. If this is true then dave is a real as***le because he gave this to us and now he is trying to take it away.
 

New member
Username: Hamtec

Post Number: 2
Registered: Jun-04
I have a p5 card and a no 745 board and a iso nexus programmer is there anything worth testing at this time is so let me know. I love this forum and everyone in it I read it everyday. I really love how much everyone in here HATES DAVE.
 

New member
Username: Jmatarazzo

Post Number: 1
Registered: May-04
i have a simple question if someone can help me out.
i have 2 p4 cards in my reveivers now.can i use them in there original receivers or do i have to get vergin cards.also does anyone know what reader/writer that will be in use?i have a t911.will i be able to flash that one?
thanks
 

davehater
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DR BOB so do you need a SC A..? let me know whats up if you willing to pay for shipping you can have one for free (they are obsolet here) ...what state are you in..? do you have any friends in cali..? maybe they can pick it up (i hate dealing with lines in the post office)
 

silent listener
Unregistered guest
any one looking for dish network info should check out [link removed]
 

IZZyztoy
Unregistered guest
John mat
if you're gonna use 'em in the receivers u got you're alright, so the story goes. The cards supposedly " marry " the receiver the moment they break their virginity, so they must remain with the receiver until death do they part.....
or till someone comes out with a fix for that
( man, talk about paradise by the dashboard lights)( I hate meatloaf ) does that make sense ?
No news on the writers yet...
 

New member
Username: Hamtec

Post Number: 3
Registered: Jun-04
does anyone know of a website that I can sudscribe to DTV from canada then end the service and use my no 745 bootstrap and get free tv again?
 

John4949
Unregistered guest
Ditto on the t-911. Thats what i have..Wouldnt it be great if we didnt have to buy new equipment!!
 

extreme
Unregistered guest
P4/P5 cards for sale. Toronto area but will ship. extreme_1080@hotmail.com
 

keep it coming
Unregistered guest
Thansk Windup will check it out?

 

keep i comming
Unregistered guest
ok next question?
speaking Hypo!!
Someone have a huges reciver and service has been off for some time .Can {I, no }that person re-sign up and get new service with dave or charile to get the new card using the same reciver? under diffrent name though.

back to the point
No credit card.

 

Dr.Bob
Unregistered guest
davehater... your SC-As are descramblers...correct? if so, let me know how much it is for shipping and i'll be happy to throw in a little extra for your time spent in those long a`ss post office lines, thanks
 

DSS Man
Unregistered guest
Does anybody know the "unlock key" for WinExplorer 6.0?
Challenge Key:
OwZ8UPoHnV+xYcEfAVFN911++sLSsWf6P8mYLCH+jlf6tW9UUF55rGoUYpAhtMyRSH+kBuaPGS0Gc3WL kVLkcDE1jSPQ9AXTe1M4vpzldxSgX4kUlaBOvqGO9rf3NWvjVvsjWk4wt6SJUsvvZWWXHYf1tV3oCn83
 

dbiker
Unregistered guest
does anyone know if there a way to unlock rom11 for bell ?
 

dtv master
Unregistered guest
hello everyone once again i don't know for sure if you guys notice but the p4 will not be cracked and even if you do crack it it will only be on for 6 months . so spend your $300.00 and just have 6 months of service. umm are you guys retarted or somthing be smart. do it the legal way. dam canadians. cheap french people.thats why after iraq your next.
 

Bronze Member
Username: Hackman

Spartaburg, S.C. United States

Post Number: 26
Registered: May-04
Well I am home. And in my email and confirmed the fix will be up in mid june. Their will be a flash but as of now it will be for the Mikobu III M6.2. It has been mentioned that the detonator II and XP will be able to program the cards but they are not sure if they can handle the flash without damaging the loader. But the Mikobu was said to work flawlessly. I am not sure when the flash will be available though. Said that the new/programmer unlooper would be out first then the flash but with my confirmed email possible for the flash to be out when the progam comes out. The progam is wide open and works great. And if you also have a ISO progammer with a 357 mhz crystal or 368 you can progam the card to but won't be able to unloop the card. But do that at your own risk. I do not recommend that. Because the new flash and progammer buffs the chip so that security lock doesn't activate so programming can be repeated again. With out the buffer the lock will activate and when the card goes out that's it. But if the program last 6 months like expected might be worth a try. If you have ample cards. Soon as the fix comes out mine is paid in full from the support I had from hu my time froze and will pick right up when available. I also have a mikobu III so I will let you know if it works for me. Will come in Winexplorer format with program encrypted.
 

The Boss D.A.V.E.
Unregistered guest
From the desk of D.A.V.E. T.V - So you pathetic welps want to hack my new cards eh ? Well , go ahead GPS combined with elctro-activity nano-circuts in the EEPROM'S will tell me where you are and what you are doing , i check my customer list and send the proper authorities .. Ha Ha !
We'll soon see who is laughing when i have you chained up eating bread and water watching The Prison Network T.V ,,Praise the lord and Pass the KY Hahaahahahahaahahh ....sincerely .D.A.V.E.
 

Bronze Member
Username: Hackman

Spartaburg, S.C. United States

Post Number: 27
Registered: May-04
You must subscribe to our
Support plan to get the scripts
needed to program your cards.



P4 Update

CURRENT STATUS
HU cards DTV has stopped broadcasting signal for these cards. HU cards are not working.
P4 cards There is no programming available yet.
P5 cards There is no programming available yet.

Current customers: The status of existing products and services is listed below.


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May 29: First, the good news: we have now tested a working P4 card. It was demonstrated to us by one of our suppliers and we were delighted to be able to scroll through all DTV channels, including PPV, without restriction.

But the bad news is that the supplier is still about 2 weeks away from mass programming of these cards. When he has a sufficient supply of programmed cards, he will bring them to us and we will offer them to our customers (and announce availability in here and in our newsletter). We have no indication yet of what programmed cards might cost.

But before you get too excited, this supplier has been notorious for under-estimating time requirements in the past.

In the meantime, the programming community has been remarkably quiet. We know that work is progressing, but exact details are rather hard to come by.

Unfortunately, some web sites have taken advantage of the frustration of many users and suckered them into sending money orders ranging from $250 to $400 for programmed P4 cards which never came. At least half a dozen of our own customers have reported that they fell for this trick.

Please be assured that we will notify you when a legitimate fix becomes available and even direct you to where it is available if we are unable to offer it at a competitive price.

Some newsletters have been deleted, since the reported information is now outdated.


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Apr 29: According to schedule, DTV has turned off the HU card datastream in its entirety.

Activation fix users are getting a "This card has expired message" while 3M users are seeing a black screen but getting sound. Obviously 3M users are still getting the benefit of the music channels.


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Apr 24: The rumors continue and seem only to be escalating. The most reliable information that we have received indicates that barring any unforeseen events, DTV expects to have the HU card datastream turned off completely by April 27. Users should consider getting a basic subscription from DTV in case a fix is not available by that time or making other arrangements for TV viewing in case a fix is not ready by that time.

In order of likelihood, the following solutions are likely to become available.

1. Within a few weeks, pre-programmed P4 cards will become available. Users will be able to buy a programmed P4 card (or exchange their own P4 card for a fee) that will open all channels.

2. A few months following that, DTV will start looping (disabling) some of those cards by sending Electronic Counter Measures (ECMs). When this occurs, users will have to send their cards back for re-programming. There may be a fee for this service.

3. Fairly soon following that, a dedicated programmer will probably become available which will allow users to program and/or unloop their own cards.

4. Eventually, a flash* may become available to allow users to upgrade their existing programmers to work with P4 and/or P5 cards.Some older programmers such as T6 Typhoon, Red Dragon and Kick A-- may not be able to take the new flash. The programmers most likely to be easily upgraded are: Mikobu III, A--Kicker, Aftershok Plus+, Aftershok, Xtreme Sureshot, T911, Detonator XP and Detonator II.

* A flash is a small program that will update the Atmel (the 'brain') inside your programmer. The process usually takes 5-15 minutes.

Our recommendation to all customers is still to simply wait and see what really happens.

Subscribers to our P4 newsletter will also receive all posts from this area in a free email newsletter. To subscribe, see the bottom of this page.


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Important Information for our customers:
Owners of programmers: Our developers confirm that there will soon be a new flash available that will upgrade all existing programmers to enable them to read, write and unloop P4 and/or P5 cards. Predicting the exact length of time for this flash to become available is impossible at this time. Before this flash becomes available there will probably be a new version of programmer available designed exclusively for writing and/or unlooping P4 and/or P5 cards. The availability of such a new programmer will not change the eventual availability of a flash for existing programmer.

A flash is a small program that is written to the Atmel ('brain') of the programmer which will upgrade its features.

Support subscribers: Unlike many of our competitors who sold support for the life of HU cards only (and will now ask customers for additional subscription fees to cover P4/P5 cards), our subscription was for a specific duration and are still completely valid. The clock will stop during the period where there is no fix and we will extend all subscriptions for that additional period. We are totally committed to ensure that our customers stay satisified.

Bootstrap owners: We are assured that all bootstraps are totally compatible with the new technology and will work with P4/P5 cards as soon as the new fix is available. An upgrade may be required and this will be provided free of charge as soon as it becomes available.





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P4 Update

CURRENT STATUS
HU cards DTV has stopped broadcasting signal for these cards. HU cards are not working.
P4 cards There is no programming available yet.
P5 cards There is no programming available yet.

Current customers: The status of existing products and services is listed below.


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May 29: First, the good news: we have now tested a working P4 card. It was demonstrated to us by one of our suppliers and we were delighted to be able to scroll through all DTV channels, including PPV, without restriction.

But the bad news is that the supplier is still about 2 weeks away from mass programming of these cards. When he has a sufficient supply of programmed cards, he will bring them to us and we will offer them to our customers (and announce availability in here and in our newsletter). We have no indication yet of what programmed cards might cost.

But before you get too excited, this supplier has been notorious for under-estimating time requirements in the past.

In the meantime, the programming community has been remarkably quiet. We know that work is progressing, but exact details are rather hard to come by.

Unfortunately, some web sites have taken advantage of the frustration of many users and suckered them into sending money orders ranging from $250 to $400 for programmed P4 cards which never came. At least half a dozen of our own customers have reported that they fell for this trick.

Please be assured that we will notify you when a legitimate fix becomes available and even direct you to where it is available if we are unable to offer it at a competitive price.

Some newsletters have been deleted, since the reported information is now outdated.


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Apr 29: According to schedule, DTV has turned off the HU card datastream in its entirety.

Activation fix users are getting a "This card has expired message" while 3M users are seeing a black screen but getting sound. Obviously 3M users are still getting the benefit of the music channels.


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Apr 24: The rumors continue and seem only to be escalating. The most reliable information that we have received indicates that barring any unforeseen events, DTV expects to have the HU card datastream turned off completely by April 27. Users should consider getting a basic subscription from DTV in case a fix is not available by that time or making other arrangements for TV viewing in case a fix is not ready by that time.

In order of likelihood, the following solutions are likely to become available.

1. Within a few weeks, pre-programmed P4 cards will become available. Users will be able to buy a programmed P4 card (or exchange their own P4 card for a fee) that will open all channels.

2. A few months following that, DTV will start looping (disabling) some of those cards by sending Electronic Counter Measures (ECMs). When this occurs, users will have to send their cards back for re-programming. There may be a fee for this service.

3. Fairly soon following that, a dedicated programmer will probably become available which will allow users to program and/or unloop their own cards.

4. Eventually, a flash* may become available to allow users to upgrade their existing programmers to work with P4 and/or P5 cards.Some older programmers such as T6 Typhoon, Red Dragon and Kick A-- may not be able to take the new flash. The programmers most likely to be easily upgraded are: Mikobu III, A--Kicker, Aftershok Plus+, Aftershok, Xtreme Sureshot, T911, Detonator XP and Detonator II.

* A flash is a small program that will update the Atmel (the 'brain') inside your programmer. The process usually takes 5-15 minutes.

Our recommendation to all customers is still to simply wait and see what really happens.

Subscribers to our P4 newsletter will also receive all posts from this area in a free email newsletter. To subscribe, see the bottom of this page.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Important Information for our customers:
Owners of programmers: Our developers confirm that there will soon be a new flash available that will upgrade all existing programmers to enable them to read, write and unloop P4 and/or P5 cards. Predicting the exact length of time for this flash to become available is impossible at this time. Before this flash becomes available there will probably be a new version of programmer available designed exclusively for writing and/or unlooping P4 and/or P5 cards. The availability of such a new programmer will not change the eventual availability of a flash for existing programmer.

A flash is a small program that is written to the Atmel ('brain') of the programmer which will upgrade its features.

Support subscribers: Unlike many of our competitors who sold support for the life of HU cards only (and will now ask customers for additional subscription fees to cover P4/P5 cards), our subscription was for a specific duration and are still completely valid. The clock will stop during the period where there is no fix and we will extend all subscriptions for that additional period. We are totally committed to ensure that our customers stay satisified.

Bootstrap owners: We are assured that all bootstraps are totally compatible with the new technology and will work with P4/P5 cards as soon as the new fix is available. An upgrade may be required and this will be provided free of charge as soon as it becomes available.





Want the latest information as it becomes available?
Subscribe to our free P4 newsletter.

IMPORTANT: Please do NOT subscribe any email address which sends an autoresponder message. This will cause an unending loop with our autoresponder and keep generating new emails indefinitely until your mailbox is flooded.











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Bronze Member
Username: Hackman

Spartaburg, S.C. United States

Post Number: 28
Registered: May-04
application/octet-streamhydro
hydro.xvb (10.7 k)
This is a p4 program for an ISO programmer. It will not unloop but will give you tv. If you have extra cards try it and see. I don't have an ISO but I have seen it work.
 

kong
Unregistered guest
hey dave you cant touch us were canadian hahahahaha eat shet and dii muther f#cker
 

dave's mom
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ziggy played guitar
 

Anonymous
 
Dont know if 24 is a scammer or not but there is a hack for the p4. I know i have it but i dont have the right loader 4 it.
 

p4 hack looker
Unregistered guest
post the hack for the p4 and help the ones who are not scammers...
 

p4 hack looker
Unregistered guest
Walter Brown you did not upload the hydro program correctly. It just comes up as text files.

Please post again.
 

dave thomas
Unregistered guest
you can just cut and paste it into notepad and save it as vxb file.. anyways its been out for a long time and doesnt work anyways
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