How N3 was Hacked

 

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Username: Luser

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http://www.sat-television.com/showthread.php?t=60224
 

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Username: Nydas

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Very interesting read.
 

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Username: Tapeman

New York Citay in-HD, NY

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Take it from an expert
The current N3 that's runing now is not the real N3
It's a modified N1/N2

The full version of N3 for some unknown reason is still under construction
They maybe swaped cards and did a major program change
But this N3 is not the real N3
Yo will understand my words at the right time
It's the right card
But somehow they are runing a slightly modified encryption upgrade
The N3 that I'm expecting
Is totally different
And yet to be unvailed

Yo maybe lucky to get the opertunity to read my comments first hand


People get so excited so quick when they hear good news
They have no clue what Nagra's team hiding behind N3

Bottom line
Take it from King
This N3 is not the final version of N3 that D#N and B#V waited for all along
Let's leave this open for now
 

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Username: Viruscauser

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"Yeah right. Edmonton Guy is a scumbag/scammer from way back."
 

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Username: Luser

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Will the real N3 please standup!
 

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Username: Donnie1973

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we only have a couple weeks left on pta. King said so, so take it from king.... for what its worth.
 

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Username: Kayoss

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Hardly a day goes by when I don't listen to King.... and I didn't listen to him again today.
 

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Username: Jayson

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N3 will be released on february 17 2009.........
 

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Username: Gregraf

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is that your crystal ball talkin?
 

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Username: Jayson

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nope....I just think it is a wise move to release it the same day of the digital television switch...
 

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Username: Gregraf

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Interesting thought. Did you buy a Nfusion yet?
 

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Username: Jayson

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no I haven't...I will be waiting to see what will happen first.....
 

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Username: 3dges

Compton

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Some people really don't have a life.
 

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Username: Gregraf

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My life is probably more exciting than yours
 

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Username: Luser

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I may be just a dumb old hick from a dumb old hick town but it appears that those rom card boys got'r licked. Thats where it starts. Now the FTA coders can take it and write a new EMU (thats short for CAM emulator) stick it in there STB and were good to go. There is no Super N3 just plain old N3. Lets gett'r done! You heard it here first. So when it happens I,ll refer back to this post and say "who's your daddy.."
 

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Username: Kingofdakingz

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yeah i wanned to buy nfusion also but i rather wait and see whats happening.
 

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Username: Kayoss

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But will you know what's happening when you see it??????
 

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Username: Oleg1474

Florida Usa

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please don't worry.Thank you Oleg Ph.D
 

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Username: The_coders

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Oleg Ph.D Thank you !

Dishnet down April 4th 2009
 

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Username: Oleg1474

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New prog comming soon soon B85(euro/ecm666)pass all test 99%.Thanks Oleg Ph.D
 

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Username: Oleg1474

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Yeah. In other words, they are charging people for something that they don't make and that any of their customers could get themselves for free, by going to the same hacker sites that these guys go to.

Anyway, they'll be out of "business" soon. Nagra 3 is going to make a whole lot of "FTA receiver" owners very unhappy.Thanks Oleg Ph.D
 

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Username: Oleg1474

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What's N3 and does it affect me?
by Oleg Ph.D. -- Staff Writer for Dish/NET

Various satellite signal providers choose to add a level of encoding on the video making it more difficult for FTA receivers to display. Currently providers in the United States use something called "Nagra 2". Five years ago the "Nagra 1" codes where used and now certain providers are moving to "Nagra 3". Even very experienced FTA users are confused by the transition so here is some information from KGB that may answer your questions.

It is not unreasonable that a satellite company or Free-To-Air station wants to provide viewers with more options. To make that happen they use a special type of card that looks like a credit card but contains a microchip running software. These cards are called "ROMS" and fit into non FTA receivers. When a satellite company wants to offer new features, such as new methods of interaction or a new signal decoder, they must SWAP all of the cards that all of their millions of customers have with new cards. Over a period of time new rom cards will be shipped to existing customers and old cards will no longer work. This is called a Card Swap and has recently been started by at least one of the major providers and will start soon with others.

Here are some common questions and answers.

Q: Will my existing receiver be able to handle N3?

A: Little is known in the public about N3 at this time but most people believe that manufacturers and coding teams will find a way to support N3 on all popular receivers that are currently in the marketplace. Some receivers with less processing power, memory or other resources may not be able to handle this "Next Generation" of decoding.

Q: If I am not sure that a receiver will handle N3, should I spent my money on a new receiver or just wait?

A: This is a good question and there are two ways that experts are advising. Some experts are just not sure and they recommend buying a low end receiver for now and waiting and then switch to the best receivers as they prove support for N3. Others, including KGB, think that more powerful FTA receivers will be the first to support N3 and having one now is a good investment and will likely prove to have less downtime. KGB loves the way his HD receiver can record prime time shows in HD format free over air from my local network stations and this is worth the investment.

Q: Will I loose my FTA channels?

A: FTA receivers have many purposes. If you are using your receiver for OTA ATSC (Over the air signals sent by your local networks in digital and often HD format) then you will not have any problem and the N3 card swap will have no impact on you. The FTA hobby is perfect for watching international stations available on many different satellites that will not be impacted in any way by N3.

Q: Is one brand likely to come out with support faster?

A: Some people think that it will be a great sales advantage for the manufactures to support N3 before anyone else and in some cases this will happen. Generally speaking, the FTA community is just that, a community of hard working coders. Some hardware companies even use the same coders and coding teams. As information becomes available, these teams will likely share with each other so that everyone can learn and the hobby can move forward. Some receivers will have less downtime than others.
Thanks Oleg Ph.D (good luck!!!!)
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