Silver Member Username: WinterfreshpimpChisago, MN America Post Number: 653 Registered: Mar-06 | Showing my neighbor my subs and hes like "play some tones and sweeps!" so i did and during one of the tones the back of my box blew off... basically where the screws were the was just a line where wood once was and the screws holding it on, still had the wood on them lol. It wasn't sh9tty craftsman ship i've made planty of boxes... |
Platinum Member Username: Nyyfan13Yanks Fan USA Post Number: 10825 Registered: Jul-06 | Sucks. What are you running? When you say "blew off" do you mean like it fell off or like launched off? Pics or didn't happen. |
Silver Member Username: WinterfreshpimpChisago, MN America Post Number: 654 Registered: Mar-06 | well the bottom screw held on so it kinda "swung" off the bottom side screw held on and the backseat was right there to catch it. i have two Kenwood eXcelon KFC-XW12R's its their version of the W7 |
Silver Member Username: WinterfreshpimpChisago, MN America Post Number: 655 Registered: Mar-06 | it happened at like 10AM i've been fixing it since so i can show you pics of the fix if you really want. it just extra carpet and screw cause i did it fast. its f()cking freezing out. |
Silver Member Username: QuirkySA, Texas Post Number: 350 Registered: Feb-07 | haha kenwood has a "version of the W7". I didn't know any car audio company makes "versions" of other companies model. From what it looks like, they have completely different build and probably preform extremely differently. |
Silver Member Username: WinterfreshpimpChisago, MN America Post Number: 660 Registered: Mar-06 | honestly look closely at some... 3 ohm or 1.5 ohm coils.... hidden screws... 700-1000wrms... Identical looks.... Alot of companies (kenwood, ascendant audio) have copied the looks/specs of the W7 due to its popularity and outstanding quality... |
Silver Member Username: QuirkySA, Texas Post Number: 351 Registered: Feb-07 | Sry bud but that sub is more similar to a Sony Explode than the W7. What building material were you using for your box? |
Silver Member Username: WinterfreshpimpChisago, MN America Post Number: 661 Registered: Mar-06 | Uh MDF.... 3/4 inch double baffle front. And how many of those subs have you owned? yeah didn't think so... |
Silver Member Username: QuirkySA, Texas Post Number: 352 Registered: Feb-07 | yea, i goggled the wrong model. my mistake. anyways, what material were you using? |
Gold Member Username: Goodie_goopMid town, Texas U.S. Post Number: 1096 Registered: Oct-06 | "It wasn't sh9tty craftsman ship i've made planty of boxes..." ya it was... a box should never fall apart no matter how much power or what subs are being ran...and they are still kenwoods nonetheless |
Silver Member Username: WinterfreshpimpChisago, MN America Post Number: 662 Registered: Mar-06 | lol its cool. i was just like uh... medium density fiberboard 3/4 inch with wood glue on all the seam and hot glue to seal it |
Gold Member Username: Snowball123West Allis, WI Post Number: 1820 Registered: Oct-07 | how much power. |
Silver Member Username: QuirkySA, Texas Post Number: 353 Registered: Feb-07 | yea, i first googled eXcelon KFC-XW and came up with thishttp://www.crutchfield.com/p_113XW1000/Kenwood-Excelon-KFC-XW1000F.html?search=k enwood+excelon&tp=111 After searching again and actually looking at the right model, I still would not say its a version of anything but itself; no 2 subs are alike and have their own characteristics. Personally I am not a fan of the Jl, but in its defense, just because your Kenwood and the W7 both are large 1000 wrms subs-- dose not make them similar in any means. It's true, I have never owned or even heard the eXcelon before and it could be a great sub for all I know, but perhaps a better way of explaining your sub is that it's the flag ship of Kenwood rather than kenwoods W7 clone. |
Silver Member Username: QuirkySA, Texas Post Number: 354 Registered: Feb-07 | As for your box, I'm sry 2 hear that it fell apart. Never have I heard of a well built box come apart, not even with a load of 15"s in it. I am not a box builder myself, but perhaps some of the others on here can give you some extra tips in repairing or re-building it. |
Silver Member Username: DuckaHoughton and/or Macomb, MI United States Post Number: 842 Registered: Jan-08 | I would suggest cross bracing... That should not happen. |
Platinum Member Username: WingmanaliveA pic is worth 1000 posts!! Post Number: 19278 Registered: Jun-06 | Looks like you failed to include in your build the pool process. The chlorine in pool water actually bonds MDF together like no other technique. The trick is in the soaking/drying time. |
Silver Member Username: Mrskullz1Brooklyn, New York Post Number: 944 Registered: Feb-07 | yep Paul got right to the point |
Gold Member Username: FrkkevinTeam DLSSuperNatural... Post Number: 5993 Registered: Nov-05 | Titebond III FTW... |
Silver Member Username: Yukhui4 15 AA Havocs, Memphis 4kw!! Post Number: 985 Registered: Jan-06 | "It wasn't sh9tty craftsman ship i've made planty of boxes..." Give up making boxes please. I'd be willing to bet most of us on here could slap some duct tape over cardboard and make a better box than you just described. This isn't Best Buy, don't go around trying to suggest some Kenwood subs are just the shi t and blew up your well crafted enclosure. |
Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3rI compensate... Post Number: 9016 Registered: Jul-06 | If it wasn't crappy craftsmanship it was poor design. |
Silver Member Username: WinterfreshpimpChisago, MN America Post Number: 663 Registered: Mar-06 | "and they are still kenwoods nonetheless" do you own or have you had any experiance with the subs i have? "This isn't Best Buy, don't go around trying to suggest some Kenwood subs are just the shi t and blew up your well crafted enclosure." Once again have you heard or owned these subs? I've had RE ascendant audio kicker alpine cadence and all those great subs and these are still my favourite. one of them is Louder and way better sounding than my arsenal and thats a 15" I looked more closely and the screw on the top were like a 1/4 inch too close the inside so the mdf just split. so it was my bad i guess it was still sweeet though. |
Gold Member Username: ShortysetniesAndrew Capps, NC US Post Number: 2999 Registered: Mar-06 | something falling apart because you built it wrong is sweet? Im glad I dont live in your house... |
Silver Member Username: WinterfreshpimpChisago, MN America Post Number: 666 Registered: Mar-06 | Jesus, posting a thread here is worse than trying out for american idol... I have 97 XXX 15's 04/05 model and i played it and it killed both my parents! Happy? lol. |
Silver Member Username: WinterfreshpimpChisago, MN America Post Number: 667 Registered: Mar-06 | wow my 666th post and i mentioned jesus. thats odd. |
Gold Member Username: RedlinerWilmington, Ma Post Number: 4778 Registered: Jun-05 | lol well maxx did u expect a positive answer after u blew the back off ur box. come on think man lol of course ur gonna get e thugged by these boys thats were they get there fun. |
Silver Member Username: WinterfreshpimpChisago, MN America Post Number: 668 Registered: Mar-06 | I suppose. Every one is just so hostile lol. OMG A NAME BRAND SUB! F()CK THAT! IT SUCKS! IT CANT BE LOUD! ITS NOT RE, RD, OR AA! its entertaining i guess... |
Gold Member Username: TejcurrentPost Number: 1632 Registered: Apr-07 | I guess a lot of members look at it like if I said "guys I installed new exhaust on my truck and when I floored it one of the pipes blew clean off! I'm the shizit aren't I?" "why did that happen" "I didn't weld it on right" "AWESOME" Gives you the chance to rebuild it better though. |
Gold Member Username: Goodie_goopMid town, Texas U.S. Post Number: 1097 Registered: Oct-06 | "do you own or have you had any experiance with the subs i have?" actually i have heard a pair...it was installed from a shop but it was still a pretty good looking install...box didnt look to bad either...sure it got kinda loud but nothing to be impressed with that couldnt be accomplished with MANY other 12's on 1500 watts...i dont know what you can get them for but if you paid ~650 for a pair like my friend did then i feel sorry for you as they are not worth near that IMO....and i would never compare it to a dub7 |
Gold Member Username: ShortysetniesAndrew Capps, NC US Post Number: 3001 Registered: Mar-06 | or your tire fell off after you put 22s on your car because you didnt tighten the lugs on all the way... Not cool |
Silver Member Username: QuirkySA, Texas Post Number: 362 Registered: Feb-07 | "OMG A NAME BRAND SUB! F()CK THAT! IT SUCKS! IT CANT BE LOUD! ITS NOT RE, RD, OR AA! " I don't think anyone on here would argue 'name brand' subs can not be a quality sub. Your sub may be a great sub. However, even in the category of 'name brand' subs there is a hierarchy of whats good and what sucks; kenwood is not on top. I think many of us believe and like to push for underground brands; you pay a lot less and get more quality for the buck. Not even that but there are a ton more options out there for the underground market-- so why not? Your sub may be a great sub but because people see that you fell into the main stream of getting 'suckered', people on here are going to react to what they see as ignorance in getting main stream/brand name products rather than saving money or investing in the diversity of underground brands. |
Gold Member Username: Tatonka-[Team Audible Insanity]- Post Number: 2528 Registered: Mar-07 | The OP shows so much ignorance in this thread.
Dude, RD, RD, and AA are all name brands. They are not generic. I think you mean that they are not "main stream" in which you would be also wrong. Also, Many people here suggest what you are calling "name brand equiptment." Like Alpine and poneer.. Kenwood is simply sub-par in every thing they do. Get over it. Also for the record, I've seen a box with 4 15's that was made out of nothing but cardboard and ducktape burp, and even it didn't fall apart. |
Gold Member Username: Big_edge_headMilwaukee, Wisconsin Post Number: 3124 Registered: Mar-07 | |
Bronze Member Username: Jason420PIMP CITY, GA USA Post Number: 26 Registered: Jun-08 | underground brands like what who? |
Silver Member Username: DuckaHoughton and/or Macomb, MI United States Post Number: 856 Registered: Jan-08 | huh? |
Silver Member Username: QuirkySA, Texas Post Number: 368 Registered: Feb-07 | "underground brands like what who?" I refer to 'underground brands' as brands not sold main stream or as nick put it "not generic". ex. AA, AQ, DD, Fi, DC, RE, RD... |
Silver Member Username: WinterfreshpimpChisago, MN America Post Number: 671 Registered: Mar-06 | I paid 350 shipped for the pair. You all still continue too wory way to much... |
Gold Member Username: Goodie_goopMid town, Texas U.S. Post Number: 1099 Registered: Oct-06 | eh...i still wouldnt pay 350 but as long as you like em build a box that wont fall apart...you'll probably like em even more |
Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18Philadelphia, PA Post Number: 9128 Registered: Jul-06 | Did you buy any chance take box building lessons from a guy named john wheeler? |
Gold Member Username: ShortysetniesAndrew Capps, NC US Post Number: 3002 Registered: Mar-06 | Paul beat you to the wheeler reference over 10+ posts ago. Sorry M.S. |
Platinum Member Username: WingmanaliveA pic is worth 1000 posts!! Post Number: 19295 Registered: Jun-06 | Actually 23. |
Gold Member Username: DeadrabitMarionville, MO Post Number: 1119 Registered: Jun-07 | ya.. looks like a fail on ur build. i have never had a box come apart and i have had much bigger subs that what u have. but listen to paul! the chlorine trick really works. i always let me box set in the pool over night after i am done. you can gain some dBs and it will sound better. try it out this time! and take some pics before and after. i want to see |
Silver Member Username: WickedbassNashville, Tn Post Number: 177 Registered: Jan-08 | Wow. Just wow. This forum really is going down the tubes. Sucks 'cause I really liked this forum... |
Gold Member Username: MendonmafiaUSA Post Number: 1617 Registered: Aug-06 | wow i come back after a few weeks and i get sh1t like this what happened. |
Gold Member Username: Hittin1Lake Charles, La. United States Post Number: 1859 Registered: May-07 | WTF is going on here f f f f f f f f f f f f FAIL!!!!!!!!! |
Bronze Member Username: SemperfiPost Number: 24 Registered: Oct-08 | i just have a few questions.... 1 were you using nails not screws? 2 if they were screws what type 3 maybe all of them weren't put into the other piece of wood to fully connect them 4 like people have said up above, i've never heard of a box falling appart, even on 3kw+ RMS systems... how did yours? 5 maybe next time you try and sound like a bad a$s, make your story a little more believable... like idk, your sh!t was on a 60Hz sweep and a NAIL came out from the center part of your box, not the whole back blew off.... just a suggestion |