New member Username: Boston_splHighland, CA United States Post Number: 1 Registered: Nov-08 | Hey guys, I'm planning on upgrading my current sub setup: (Kicker CVX 15" dual 2ohm running off a Crossfire vr1000d at 1ohm) to either two Treo SSX 15's or two Fi BTL 15's. My local shop, which is an authorized dealer, will sell me two SSX 15's for $1000 out the door. And I looked at Fi's website, and the BTL's are $470ea. with the configuration I want. I'd also appreciate any advice on an amp or amps. I'm considering either two US Amps AX2000 or two Zapco 9.0x. This setup will be in a '96 Chevy Caprice Wagon. I'm running an Alpine IVA-D300, Crossfire vr354, and Diamond Audio D651s components off a stock battery and alternator, if it helps. I realize that this much of an upgrade will require a charging system upgrade, so any advice in that area would be great. Thanks. |
Gold Member Username: Denali_on_22sI get Bucks like Milwa... Post Number: 6238 Registered: Feb-06 | Treo SSX and buy mine its a beast! |
Gold Member Username: JakeyplaysbassSt. Louis, MO / ASU Post Number: 3444 Registered: Jul-05 | SSX 15s and Zapco 9.0s |
New member Username: Boston_splHighland, CA United States Post Number: 3 Registered: Nov-08 | Would the SSX be capable of producing the same SPL as the BTL? From what I've herd the BTL is pretty much a straight SPL sub, where as the SSX is more of an SQL sub that's very capable of producing sum good SPL. Does this sound right? |
New member Username: Boston_splHighland, CA United States Post Number: 5 Registered: Nov-08 | Also, I often listen to my stereo with the engine off, so when I get these 15's how should I upgrade my electrical system? Battery/ Alternator recommendations, etc.? |
Bronze Member Username: Boston_splHighland, CA United States Post Number: 18 Registered: Nov-08 | Any advice guys? |
Silver Member Username: DuckaHoughton and/or Macomb, MI United States Post Number: 830 Registered: Jan-08 | big 3, HO alt, a second battery... You may be able to get away without doing all of those, just keep an eye on your voltage. |
Gold Member Username: HdubbTeam Revolution Post Number: 3964 Registered: Nov-04 | big 3, alty, and id say for daily id go with 2 batts in that back and a good one under the hood. the btl isnt a bad driver. im not too big of a fn of how they sound, the ssx i think is a much better bet, but 500 a piece is a lot of money.imo. imo go kicker hyperflex 0ga, a mechman alty,and either powermaster bats or odessey 2150 (stinger bats is the same) or if they arent in your budget go deka. or northstar nsb90s. |
Bronze Member Username: Boston_splHighland, CA United States Post Number: 19 Registered: Nov-08 | What amperage alternator should I get? Are Kinetik batts. any good? Also, if I get 2 backup batteries, what size batteries should I get? Other than an isolator, what else do I need to install them (like getting an even higher amperage alt. to compensate for the charging of the two extra batts.?) I assume with the H.O. alt. that a capacitor would be pointless? (As capacitors often seem to be anyway.) |
Gold Member Username: StnorrisFully Loaded BL 15?, IA US Post Number: 2246 Registered: Apr-06 | kinetik batteries are really good, but i would say get something else due to the fact they are sh**ty to hook up and also i have heard things about the kinetiks being overcharged. I read you are not supposed to let them charge over 14.3v or they will eventually fry. I have one and charge it around 14.7 and 14.8 all the time...it seems like its losing some of its potential...someone else might know more about this.. |
Gold Member Username: Dustin3Tigard, OR U.S. Post Number: 4859 Registered: Oct-05 | why not 2 15" BL's? I would only get 2 15" btl if i were looking to compete.. for a daily driver IMO its a little overboard. |
Bronze Member Username: Boston_splHighland, CA United States Post Number: 21 Registered: Nov-08 | You're probably right about the BTL's, plus I'm looking for a bit better SQ than I think the BTL's can provide. What is a good price for SSX 15's? Also, how good of an SQL sub would the AudioQue HDC315 be? It would be nice to only spend $500 on two HDC3 15's, though for a little more SPL I'd be willing to spend more, then again I've never herd the AudioQue's, but I really liked the SPL & SQ of the SSX's. Lastly, would one AQ2200D per SSX, or one AQ2200D for two HDC15's be a good match? Oh, and any recommendations on H.O. alt. amperage before I buy one? Looks like I'll be pushin' about 5000w at the most for subs and about 200w or so for components, if it helps. Thanks guys. |
Bronze Member Username: Boston_splHighland, CA United States Post Number: 23 Registered: Nov-08 | Hey, are Odyssey and Stinger batts. literally the same thing? |
Silver Member Username: DlavanteTigard, Or USA Post Number: 119 Registered: Feb-07 | two HDC15's with an AQ200D would slam and still sound fairly decent. you cant really beat the hdc3's for the price imo. as for the alt i wouldnt go any less than 260 amps. |
Silver Member Username: DlavanteTigard, Or USA Post Number: 120 Registered: Feb-07 | oh my bad you said 1 AQ2200 for both HDC3's.. why not one for each?? |
Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3rI compensate... Post Number: 8987 Registered: Jul-06 | I think I'd go with the SSX. I'm not a big fan of Fi products. Scott is an off guy... |
Bronze Member Username: Boston_splHighland, CA United States Post Number: 24 Registered: Nov-08 | Good question Daniel, how much $ do the AQ1200D & AQ2200D go for? Oh, and any idea as to what size (volume) of a box I'd be lookin' at for each HDC315 for SPL (ported)? |
Bronze Member Username: Boston_splHighland, CA United States Post Number: 26 Registered: Nov-08 | I looked on AudioQue's site, but I couldn't find amp prices. Hopefully they're less than Zapco comp. prices. |
Bronze Member Username: Boston_splHighland, CA United States Post Number: 27 Registered: Nov-08 | Anyone know the prices? |
Silver Member Username: DuckaHoughton and/or Macomb, MI United States Post Number: 843 Registered: Jan-08 | http://www.audioque.com/aq/order.htm |
Bronze Member Username: Boston_splHighland, CA United States Post Number: 30 Registered: Nov-08 | Awesome. Thanks. BTW, that seems pretty damn cheap. |
Gold Member Username: BonhamdPost Number: 1561 Registered: Nov-07 | I like the SSX quite a bit "I think I'd go with the SSX. I'm not a big fan of Fi products. Scott is an off guy..." why is that rob?? |
Bronze Member Username: Boston_splHighland, CA United States Post Number: 37 Registered: Nov-08 | Anyone know how much Treo SSX15's run $ new? Not online, but in a store. |
Silver Member Username: Kingandsons07TEAM REVOLUTION Lincoln,NE Post Number: 356 Registered: Aug-08 | look in too rd alpha's. everyone on here so far really likes rd audio. chad being a big one lol but there's better then audio Q and FI.... |
Bronze Member Username: Boston_splHighland, CA United States Post Number: 38 Registered: Nov-08 | I'll do that. Thanks Quentin. |