Plymouth
|
Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 3376 Registered: Oct-06 | "King Last week i found a new satellite and over 20 channels in Ku band between 35W and 55W This sat is not list in Lyngsat, i get it with Globecast setting and scan with motor. I found it on lyngsat and i'm not able to found it again, because i dont note the degree. I will try to find it." That's most likely: - 30.0°W Hispasat C or D - 43.0°W Intelsat 3R About 2 years ago I had an argument with someone that claimed it can't be done This is why I wrote how to use specs to get certain satellite This is what yo found: - This is why I think white hole posts should be ignored as he makes comments on things he has absolutely no clue Good Job Plymouth Glad yo shared yor findings |
|
Gold Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 3685 Registered: Jan-08 | King I get 43 channels on C-Band on 61.5W from Ecostar with very strong signal, many not available on KU. Exemple: ZEESA SAMAY AAJTK HT ANTGO ANTEN SHARA KTV INDMU INDVI ARTSP TRACE 3A TELESUD SPORT BRDGS ITVN PTV B4UMU ARYDI ESC-1 NILE FUTUR DUBAI STAR+ IQRAA GLBL1 BTV ZEETV ZCINE B4U ART ARTMV MLODY DREAM ALARA GEONW ISRLI TV5 MONDE Here is the list of C-Band satellite i can get: Galaxy 11/C /C= C-Band AMC 6/C AMC 3/C AMC 1/C Anik F1/C Galaxy 4R/C Amazonas/C Intelsat 5/C To be continued |
|
Gold Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 3687 Registered: Jan-08 | King "That's most likely: - 30.0°W Hispasat C or D - 43.0°W Intelsat 3R" I tried this sats but no luck |
|
Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 3379 Registered: Oct-06 | "I get 43 channels on C-Band on 61.5W from Ecostar with very strong signal" I'm sure yor not crazy as I did recognize yo as a true tester I'm always interested in unique exploration And this might be one of them As far as I know 61.5 is all Ku band no C-band 61.5 has 2 satellites not just one So there is always a possibility one of the satellites moved in space, deviating frequency pitch even if they are C-band frequency One possibility a new satellite just been added Another possibilty some wrong feed back freq I get it all the time As much as I'm so sure it's not C-band I won't jump to conclusion until I look at all the clues Frequency is frequency Doesn't matter if it's C-band, Ku band or Ka band Yo dial a set freq on yor receiver enabling internal clock, the 2 freq get summed together and anything can happen as it gets down converted to 2 GHz back to yor receiver See scaning is a lot more fun than PPV Isn't?  I'm interested in: - Yor LNB freq - Tuner freq - It's always good not to jump to conclusion this is how I came across the 2 streams 2 years ago Welcome aboard Yo are now a true tester |
|
Gold Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 3690 Registered: Jan-08 | King You give me much work but if you believe me, it's nothing Echostar is diplay on screen LNB Type -Standard LNB Freq -5150 Tp freq -4016 Perform on QPH-031 LNB on Circular mode Signal 79 Quality 87 ZEESA-4016 20000 L 5/6 v4386 a4387 p4386 SAMAY-same v6178 a 6179 p6178 AAJTK-same v5410 a5411 p5410 HT-same v5666 a5667 p5666 ANTGO-same v6690 a6691 p6690 ANTEN-same v7202 a7203 p7202 SHARA-same v5922 a 5923 p5922 KTV-same v6946 a6947 p6946 INDMU-same v4642 a4643 p4642 INDVI-same v4898 a4899 p4898 ARTSP-same v6434 a6435 p6434 TRACE-same v4130 a4132 p4130 3A TELESUD-same v5154 a5155 p5154 SPORT-4074 20000 L 5/6 v6178 a6179 p6178 BRDGS-same v6946 a6947 p6946 ITVN-same v6434 a 6435 p6434 PTV-same v5666 a5667 p5666 B4UMU-same v4642 a4643 p4642 ARYDI-same v4130 a4131 p4130 ESC-1-same v4898 a4899 p4898 NILE-same v5154 a5155 p5154 FUTUR-same v4386 a4387 p4386 DUBAI-same v5410 a5411 p5410 STAR+-same v7202 a7203 p7202 IQRAA-same v5922 a5923 p5922 GLBL1-same v7458 a7459 p7458 BTV-3797 20000 R 5/6 v6178 a6179 p6178 ZEETV-same v4386 a4387 p4386 ZCINE-same v4642 a4643 p4642 B4U-same v4898 a4899 p4898 ART-same v5154 a5155 p5154 ARTMV-same v5410 a5411 p5410 MLODY-same v5666 a5667 p5666 DREAM-same v6946 a6947 p6946 ALARA-same v6434 a6435 p6434 GEONW-same v7202 a7203 p7202 ISRLI-same v6178 a6179 p6178 TV5 MONDE-same v4130 a4131 p4130 Enjoy I'm a true tester since 1 year  |
|
Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 3383 Registered: Oct-06 | That's great I do have an idea what this is But first Do yo get clear video? Meaning does yor bin work on these channels? |
|
Gold Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 3695 Registered: Jan-08 | King at least 10 are clear but all encripted. |
|
Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 3387 Registered: Oct-06 | That's what I was expecting At least 80% of all channels encrypted No doubt it's 61.5 Question is, is it Ku or C-band? I'm very sure they are not C-band Yor Invacom is not even rated below 11.7GHz and there is no listing of C-band on 61.5 and MOST IMPORTANT these are same selections found on 61.5 they may have added few channels here and there It's important to be familiar with internal clock frequency Clock means fixed frequency Receiver's Internal frequency drives LNB frequency on yor dish to mix with incoming satellite beam frequency They get summed together then down converted to 2 GHz back again to yor receiver to decode it from MPEG to video/Audio I had a German professor more than 23 years ago taught me one thing No coaxial cable on earth can pass frequency higher than 2.7GHz It won't even pass thru more than 10 inches of any wire In fact it will start to break up at 2.3GHZ Only super conductors can The reason is speed of electrons thru copper conductor is 2.7x10^7 meters per second Theoretically No frequency on yor coax cable goes either way IN/Out for anymore than 2GHZ Therefore it's nothing but feedback as a result of the 2 mixed frequencies I get it all the time It used to drive me crazy But the magic of LOW NOISE BLOCK (LNB) with feedback horn known as LNBF does all the frequency conversion in both directions To keep up with speed limit of the copper Air is much better conductor But a bigger professor Einstein says nothing in our universe exceeds the speed of light which is 300x10^8 m/s Therefore according to my calculation No frequency will ever exceed 34.33GHZ above our Earth (I got that by taking the ratio of both speeds) At least not in my life time Only Ka frequency is this close about 30GHz |
|
Gold Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 3720 Registered: Jan-08 | King few channels as TV5 Monde, which is clear is not available on dish now, if i scan in Ku it is not there. The dish turn on 0.1 or 0.2 degree on this lot of channel, i am sure this is a new satellite, it is not echostar 3 How you explain it.  |
|
Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 3389 Registered: Oct-06 | Plymouth There are 2 satellites on 61.5 not just one Echo-str-1 and Rain*bow-1 Seperated by 0.2 degrees or less in space Yo are now got yor first hand on both streams It's what I was trying to tell yo all along In any cases This is a newly added channel Do yo get TV5 MONDE in clear or scrambled? If yo do get it scrambled There are trial and error steps that would let yo get it Similar to channel Star One in the past |
|
Gold Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 3723 Registered: Jan-08 | King TV5 Monde is clear 3A Telesud is clear Trace is clear GLBK1 is clear BTV is clear ISRLI is clear How you explain, i get Anik F1 only C-Band? |
|
Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 3390 Registered: Oct-06 | When yo say clear I assume yo say decrypted Otherwise clear means Free to Air i.e. when yo say clear $ is shown And bin made it clear Yo lost me when yo say Anik-F1 Anik F1 at 107.3°W (South America Beam) No way on earth yo can get it And it has 1-TP, one channel feed Plymouth Yo won't get C-band with yor Invacom LNB I had an entire page on LNB freq It's a feedback from Ku-band by playing with pitch frequency I did all the tricks in the world Yo wanna get C-band Get a 1.2 meter dish and a C-band/Ku band LNB Yo'll get tons of C-band channels What yo came across are newly added channels that will be available in few weeks |
|
Gold Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 3727 Registered: Jan-08 | King i see $ and it was clear sorry i check Anik F1 is Ku too Tonight i get 1 channels in HD no $ and clear with strong signal |
|
Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 3391 Registered: Oct-06 | What's Anik F1? I think yo mean Anik F3 and that's Ku Something is mixed up here Do yo have an HD box? |
|
Gold Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 3728 Registered: Jan-08 | King two sats are located Anik F1 and F1/R is KU http://www.tv2go.com/satellites.html And you can see pn Lyngsat too I blind scan on 10750 and the same channel come, you are right i dont get C-Band  For the Hd i have picture but twisted as for many HD channels on 82W 11918 5858 L 3/4 v308 a256 p8190 3982 5858 L 3/4 v308 a256 p8190 |
|
Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 3392 Registered: Oct-06 | Next time put the orbit location Cuz yor discussion is all about 61.5 All the sudden yor talking 107 F1 is a C-band and there isn't anything on it F1/R is Canadian Star*choice 107.3W That is encrypted in DC-II There is no crack on it at this time Yor talking about 61.5 All the sudden yo ask how to expalin F1 C-band This is what yo wrote: "King TV5 Monde is clear 3A Telesud is clear Trace is clear GLBK1 is clear BTV is clear ISRLI is clear How you explain, i get Anik F1 only C-Band?" Wouldn't make perfect sense to get C-band using C-band LNB? It's like trying to get FM radio on an AM tuner |
|
Gold Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 3729 Registered: Jan-08 | """""King two sats are located Anik F1 and F1/R is KU http://www.tv2go.com/satellites.html And you can see pn Lyngsat too I blind scan on 10750 and the same channel come, you are right i dont get C-Band For the Hd i have picture but twisted as for many HD channels on 82W 11918 5858 L 3/4 v308 a256 p8190 3982 5858 L 3/4 v308 a256 p8190"""""" -----It is 107.3W------and this channel have no $ and it is clear but Horizontal is like old tv set when we could ajusted it. King you are right my Invacom dont get C-Band but only Ku Is it possible a LNB with C-Band and Ku Linear and Circular |
|
Gold Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 3732 Registered: Jan-08 | King here is a link for 107.3W L-Band, C-Band, Ku Band |
|
Gold Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 3737 Registered: Jan-08 | Sorry King here is a link for 107.3W L-Band, C-Band, Ku Band http://www.tbs-satellite.com/tse/online/sat_anik_f1r.html |
|
Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 3395 Registered: Oct-06 | "Is it possible a LNB with C-Band and Ku Linear and Circular" Yes yo can But with at least 1.2 meter I had an entire thread on it Check this LNB [link removed] I predicted when PTA days are over 1 meter will become handy |
|
Gold Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 3743 Registered: Jan-08 | King These channels are up again with $(encripted) TV5 Monde is clear 3A Telesud is clear Trace is clear GLBK1 is clear BTV is clear ISRLI is clear How can you explain it? |
|
Gold Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 3748 Registered: Jan-08 | King i tested with a standard circular LNB with same setting and i get absolutely nothing. I test presently 110W and i come back with the result. |
|
Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 3401 Registered: Oct-06 | Like I said Playing with freq pitch yo'll get whatever the wind will blow It's a combination of LNB freq, Satellite freq and final summed freq |
|
Gold Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 3750 Registered: Jan-08 | You know the joke I get over 70 channel on 110W 2 are up with $ LNH I test presently 91W and i come back with the result.  |
|
Bronze Member Username: DetPost Number: 80 Registered: Jan-08 | plymouth i dont get zee tv on my pansat 2700 a. i have 118.8,119,110 and i do not get zee tv . i do get zee cinema. is there any way i can get zee tv, euro news, b4u and SET? |
|
Platinum Member Username: NydasPost Number: 11569 Registered: Jun-06 | Wait for new BIN. Install it when it comes out and then do a blind scan |
|
Gold Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 3751 Registered: Jan-08 | MNM In futur start a new thread for it DN and Bev down The only channels up from India are on Gc |
|
Gold Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 3765 Registered: Jan-08 | King i tested with same setup on 91W and i get 420 channels all same channels then normal setup but all $ and not clear, i think this is N3. Some channels named "Test". Next step try to found true frequency. To be continued. |
|
Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 3416 Registered: Oct-06 | See Now yo got the 2 streams N*2 an N*3 side by side When most people do blind scan they'll get both streams Cuz both interlaced by 2 satellites in space separated by 0.2 degrees I detected that back in Feb 2007 when they were doing N1 & N2 Yo now got first hand test on both streams |
|
Gold Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 3768 Registered: Jan-08 | King I dont think, because , like i say many time, if i delete the sat and blind scan, i dont have this problem. These channels are on a different frequency. Maybe you are right this weekend i installed my old 18" dish with a hh-90 and connect it directly in my Captiveworks and on blind scan i have many duplicate channels. My 33" with QPH-031 is more precis for select 2 near satellites. I try to get the true frequency and i reply. |
Main Forums
Today's Posts- Home Audio Forum
- Home Video Forum
- Home Theater Forum
- Car Audio Forum
- Accessories Forum
- All Forum Topics