How to grounded my satellite
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Bronze Member Username: MeishaPost Number: 45 Registered: Aug-05 | HI I purchased two ground blocks for me 3 Dual LNB that are connected to 2 receivers, and purchased a 8 feet metal rod and drove it into the ground, Can anyone tell me or post a link how to to properly ground my satilles ? Thanks |
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Gold Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 3490 Registered: Jan-08 | Meisha you does need a 8 feet metal rod , ground it on electric mat of house or existing ground here is a link for grounding: http://www.sadoun.com/Sat/Installation/Grounding.htm |
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Bronze Member Username: MeishaPost Number: 46 Registered: Aug-05 | do i have to put the ground block on all of my RG6 cables that are hooked up to my LNB's for each receiver (meaning 2 cables for bird and 2 cables for 110 and 2 cables 119.) I have 4 out of 6 done. do i have to do the last 2 ? |
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Gold Member Username: KirankumarNO Bashing Post Number: 2934 Registered: Oct-07 | just ground your switch and you should be ok |
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Bronze Member Username: MeishaPost Number: 47 Registered: Aug-05 | i am still loosing signal if i have both receivers on. after grounding my switch |
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Gold Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 3492 Registered: Jan-08 | Meisha Does have you connected one switch for each receiver and one output of each LNB on each switch? Do you have a Voltmeter? If yes, on AC volt put one probe on RG6 cable nut and the other probe on receiver case(cable unhook), give me voltage if it there |
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Silver Member Username: ScabzKnoxville, Tn Us Post Number: 410 Registered: Oct-07 | I never grounded my dish. It's been a few years and not a prob. |
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Gold Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 3543 Registered: Jan-08 | scabz With a motorized dish and scanning on low gain satellite, it is better, but on standard small dish, no need, if it is lower then electric mat  |
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Bronze Member Username: MeishaPost Number: 48 Registered: Aug-05 | No i do not have a volt meter,, is there another way i can do it ? i have asked my friends for one and they do not have one either,, |
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Gold Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 3546 Registered: Jan-08 | Meisha Try to power your 2 receivers on same power source with a extension cord and check if it work now |
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Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 3317 Registered: Oct-06 | - Grounding has nothing to do with signal gain or loss - Grounding is to prevent electronics devices inside the house from static electricity or lightning - Good coax connectors and RG-6 coaxial cables are the keys for great satellite signal But I think yo got a problem with Pansuck due to damaged components in yor receiver I'm not sure if it was yo or a similar name who had conflict with 2 receivers one of them was Pansuck Try 2 different receivers see if this problem goes away I usually test one cord at a time to make sure it works well before connecting to switches or LNBs |
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Silver Member Username: MuchoPost Number: 564 Registered: Dec-07 | Meisha, Can anyone tell me or post a link how to to properly ground my satilles ? Maybe this will help.  |
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Gold Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 3550 Registered: Jan-08 | King with my system, i test with and without and i have better quality with ground, interference can affect signal. Tested and confirmed Other thing, electric power in house on 240 volts with neutral split 2 120 volts if neutral is inverted, that can produce a voltage non wanted. |
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Bronze Member Username: MeishaPost Number: 49 Registered: Aug-05 | Plymouth and everyone, I have gotten both of my receivers working now and i am able to have both of them on without loose signal on any birds, I had to default both of my receivers to resolve the issue and replace one of my switch.. hopefully i am out of the wood works with the signal problem |
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Gold Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 3556 Registered: Jan-08 | If i understand well, it work now? |
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Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 3320 Registered: Oct-06 | "Other thing, electric power in house on 240 volts with neutral split 2 120 volts if neutral is inverted, that can produce a voltage non wanted." I think yo got AC concept totally wrong AC electronics known as alternating voltage and current Voltage is the potential difference Inverting low freq 60 cycles per second AC is irrelavent 240V is +120V and -120V constantly alternating positive becomes negative and negative becomes positive But one of them is Hot other is Common With use of ground it forces current return thru earth (ground) Splitting potential differnce in half Half the energy, half the power and grounding the common negative return Even if yo use 240V Yo still need ground To protect load devices And grounding has nothing to do with signal gain or loss Even if yo had yor microwave on Grounding is like I described above Regardless of yor experiments Satellite signal even after down converting is still very high frequency Low freq has no significant interference Other interfences are due to other high electromagnetic waves in the air Shielding signal (as in RG-6) is to prevent lumping other undesired electromagnetic waves Shielding and grounding are 2 different things |
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Gold Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 3601 Registered: Jan-08 | King I conceived many control panel for the industry on 600, 550, 380, 208 volts 3 phases and many on 240 and 120 volts, if my concept is totally wrong. I,m electrician, electronician and electro-thecnician with it. I conceived many ligth system for discotheque. I conceived many drive motor system I conceived and modified many sono amplifiers And many more  |
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Silver Member Username: MuchoPost Number: 573 Registered: Dec-07 | Look you too The incoming electrical service to a person home as a rule is 240 Volts or less which is 4 conductors A and B phase, a neutral and a bare grounding conductor. The neutral will carry the unbalance load between A & B phase to ground. All the above has nothing to do with equipment grounding. Electric takes the shortest path to Earth. That is the reason the National Electrical Code requires the service to be grounded by a driving ground rods and on the cool water supply conduit just as it enters your home if the incoming water supply is copper conduit. If lighting or the Power Compony's Transformer shorts out and the incoming service is not grounded as per the NEC it will send High Voltage in the home and will be like the 4th of July  |
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Gold Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 3604 Registered: Jan-08 | "The incoming electrical service to a person home as a rule is 240 Volts or less which is 4 conductors A and B phase, a neutral and a bare grounding conductor."  240volts 1 phase 2 conductors and ground 440volts(USA)600 volts(Canada) 3 conductors and ground is for 3 phases(1 phase to ground give 380 volts use on fluorescent lighting in Canada) A and B phase does not exist |
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Silver Member Username: MuchoPost Number: 575 Registered: Dec-07 | Plymouth In Canada what electrical code do you people follow? You say that the Electric Powder Company of Canada supply a home with only 3 conductors two hot and one ground? You mean to tell me that an equipment ground is not required? When the incoming service is connected to a single phase main electrical panel in a home here in the USA the conductors are color code as per the NEC Black, Red and White. As per the NEC Black is connected to the first lug of the main panel which is A phase, Red is connected to the second lug which is B phase, White is connected to the ground Bar, and the Bare conductor is connected to the equipment ground Bar. |
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Gold Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 3605 Registered: Jan-08 | White 240 volts wiring is identical in USA and Canada The shematic i shown is from Electric Provider to Meter In breaker panel ground is tap on White, red and black are 2 X 120 volts taps 240 volts work on only one phase, and not phase A and B, but tap A and B 1 phase is a alternate wave 0 to +240 to 0 to -240 who give 360 degrees In 3 phases each phases is shifted with 120 degrees I hope you understand difference btw phases and Taps |
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Silver Member Username: Bjcrisp6478Post Number: 211 Registered: Nov-07 | i don't have mine grounded and it's fine....why would i want to ground it ???? there a reason?????? thanks |
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Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 3321 Registered: Oct-06 | I didn't want to start an AC battle I do respect everyone's view I was only responding to inverting AC voltage statement Plymouth is right about multi power phase And it varies from one country to another Even from one town to another I agree with Hawk on one thing only "Electric takes the shortest path to Earth." I think what yo meant is: Electricity takes the shortest path to earth Plymouth I'm going to give yo correct concept on multi-phase My 27 years of experience can allow me to write my own book on basic fundamentals of Electricity and Electronics Yo take an electric current around a metal core (transformer) thru insulated conductive wires The core becomes intensified Yo wrap another set of wires around transformer (as coil) and it will induce another electric current around new coil with polarity depending on its direction totally independent phase yo can step and repeat with another set of coil THAT'S MY THEORY ON 3 PHASE They can be cascaded for electrical equipment that requires 3 phase |
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Silver Member Username: MuchoPost Number: 576 Registered: Dec-07 | True we have either a single phase or a three phase incoming service provied by the Electric Power Company.But here in the States we comply to the National Electrical Code.We identified each conductor as a phase not as a tap only as a A, B, or C phase as per NEC. I think that enough is enough on this thread, time to put it to bed  |
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Gold Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 3606 Registered: Jan-08 | King Sorry you are not right, you cant create a new phase with a transfo, but a isolate tape on same phase Look it  You can created a new phase only with a Rotophase or a electronic motor drive, which transform AC to DC and create 3 phase 2 phases exist only on AC motor and the second phase is created inside motor coil and capacitor use for start the motor with centrifugal switch White This is a transfo who explained how have 120 volts 1 phases from 3 phases use when 240 volts 1 phase not available, not use for private house. I hope now you, King and White understand now, how it work. |
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Silver Member Username: RekmanMntl-Quebec-... Post Number: 402 Registered: Jun-06 | PLYMOUH HELP ME MY FRIEND. I want to kno if I change my Receiver, should I also change my LNB?? (i have one which i 118-119).... Or would I be able to use the LNB on any new rreceiver which i will buy.. please help i also need a calculator how to poit my dish... because i change my dish position... tell me how to calculate the pointing... |
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Gold Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 3608 Registered: Jan-08 | MKM i give you answer on your thread https://www.ecoustics.com/electronics/forum/home-video/511723.html |
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