just wondering a freind of mine (scared of fta ) is subcribed to dn in canada? he want to know is it legal? he is paying for the channels? i believe the dealer is using some adresses from U.S so i was just asking? anyone know some thing about it .
your friend i think is taking more risk than if he is using fta. . how could he subscribe to dn that does not exist in the country. what the dealer does is as you know, you can have more than 4 receiver in same house . so poeple they share the bill and each take one receiver. cuz the box works regardeless of the location . as long as there is coverage for the dn .
im not sure what canada says about that. but dn have no hand on getting anyone stealing or using dn outside usa.
sada for the curiousity if u are in canada call bev ask information that you want dn program and if it 's legal to have it in canada . they will tell you . im gonna call dn and get back to you .
sada i call them they sais they have nothing to do with canada . dn is only in usa . canada is an other country that has their own programming . so u have to look for canada policy if u are in canada and taking other programming not sold in canada . that's the question . . i guess none of their buisness who ever in control in canada . as long as i dont mess with their policy.bev .
thanks cartier. i will tell my freind to subcribe to bell ( if he really wanna go legal), the only thing interested me that his dn rec was still up during the last ecm..,
It's grey market... I've never heard of anyone getting charged for subbing DTV & DN in Canada. Having said that the RCMP did make a few bars up here give up their DTV boxes about 5 years ago for showing out of market sports games... but never a household to my knowledge.
Subbing U.S. satellite is way better than paying for the garbage on a Canadian provider, but only if you have an American address & credit card or a relative that's willing to give you one of his multi-room receivers... but relying on some greasy douchebag satellite dealer is a bad choice. I got burned for about $600 a few years back on a DTV sub-share that worked for one year, but only a month into the second year. Wish I could find the little pr1ck!
Why anyone would bother trying to sub U.S. satellite in Canada right now is beyond me, FTA is the way to go... for now!
In the eyes of Dishnetwork, its illegal because the Canadian person ( your friend) is NOT paying Dishnet directly with their own existing established DN account, and is receiving DN signals in their homes in Canada. You cannot subscribe to a provider, if the provider has NOT established an account for you and does NOT mail you a monthly bill themselves.
Many Canadians do have Dishnet and/or Directv, IN THEIR HOMES IN THE US. This is perfectly legal because they have established legal US residences and accounts themselves with these providers. Many "snowbirds" do this.
Its illegal to receive a satellite providers ENCRYPTED signals and decrypt ( hack and modify to viewing status) those signals, outside the country of that provider..its illegal to decrypt the signals in any country.
Prosecution for this "theft of signals" by Dishnet or any satellite provider is possible, but not common.
I do know that some people were ordered to make restitution and fined by satellite providers for having a subscription thru a 3rd party. The 3rd party was charged also with criminal violations.
The practical aspect of DN on FTA in Canada is that if you are doing it for yourself in your home, the law enforcement people are unlikely to charge you. If you are doing it as a business or for profit, you are likely to be charged.
the thing that interested me that dealer is using " legal adress in U.S" and selling his programming here. but my question is this nagra 3 is aroungd the corner, and like last year i hope nothing major happens, but the one thing my freind told me that his rec was never down during any ecm. my freind said he can subcribed to bell but less international channels , and its somewhat expensive + 1-2 yr contract.. any way my point is this , lets say if coder's couldn't decode nagra 3 , what will be ur guys advise for people , who have fta rec and wanna use this method? is there any more risk involoved in this method using fta rec or less? thanks bill,nalin,justforhaha,kayos and cartier. really appreciated.
Sharing ANY subscription is the smartest thing somebody can do. It never goes down and chances of getting caught are slim. I suggest people share with friends and relatives that reside in the US. Do NOT use some "dealer.
I know someone who has been doing this "sharing" for 10 years, and has 14 receivers on his DTV account.
Sub-sharing for DN or DTV is illegal in Canada. While getting signals off the air by individuals in Canada is tolerated to a certain extent, sub-sharing is much more of a direct threat to Bell which has a vested interest in not allowing Canadian to watch American programming, so you are much more likely to be prosecuted even an individual infringement level.
Whether sub sharing or using FTA, they both are illegal equally, and both will be prosecuted or fined equally...(doesn't matter the method of stealing, they both are stealing!)...and none is more legal or riskier than the other...but sub sharing NEVER goes down, like FTA always does..
justforhaha's: You were emphasising "chances of getting caught are slim" using sub-sharing. However if you do get caught, YOU WILL BE PROSECUTED.
That is not the issue. "Chances of getting prosecuted are slim" if as an individual you are taking signals off the air in Canada - that is MY statement.
The bottom line is that you should not take signals off the air illegally on a continuous basis.
By the way, are you off your medication now? You are already showing your stubbornness and irrationality - You better watch out.
I live in Canada and CAN NOT sub. to DISH NET or DTV Unless I use an American/US address. Even then thats asking for it. If they can some how trace the signal. I know they can catch it if the cards are altered/tamped with.
I believe it isn't legal for an American to sub. to BEV using an American/US address he/she must use a Canadian address.
Your citizenship doesn't matter...what matters is where you are receiving the signals..If in US, you can only receive US providers, such as DN and DTV...and in Canada, you can ONLY receive Bev...and to receive these signals LEGALLY, you must be a subsciber with the provider.
Canadians may subscribe to US providers for their homes in the US, and conversely, Americans can subscribe to Bev for their homes in Canada.
) is subcribed to dn in canada? he want to know is it legal? 
. how could he subscribe to dn that does not exist in the country. what the dealer does is as you know, you can have more than 4 receiver in same house . so poeple they share the bill and each take one receiver. cuz the box works regardeless of the location . as long as there is coverage for the dn . 
NOT TRUE... We also get StarChoice here in Canada as well.