2 SD2.5s 12in vs Fi Q 15in (bp power)
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Bronze Member Username: CozcePost Number: 46 Registered: Mar-08 | Alright, I have a friend who is getting a new system soon and he hasnt made any final decisions. He is looking at getting a 15" Fi Q, or possibly 2 12" AQ SDC2.5's. Looking at either a SAZ1500 for the Q with BP power, and looking at an AQ1200D for the SDC's. He wants a SQ setup mostly, but still wants it to get loud too. So what I'm saying is. 2 12" SDC2.5 vs. 15" Q. Would both be in a ported box. Help? |
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Gold Member Username: LoudonPost Number: 2532 Registered: Jun-04 | doubt u could hear much a different to be completely honest ... i would choose the q .. do to the sq ported or sealed ... output wise ... u wouldnt hear much a difference ... the q might be alittle louder |
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Bronze Member Username: CozcePost Number: 47 Registered: Mar-08 | What if the SD2.5s were on a saz-1500d? |
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Gold Member Username: SomedonniedudeIllinois United States Post Number: 1815 Registered: May-07 | What about 2 RE SE's??? |
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Bronze Member Username: CozcePost Number: 50 Registered: Mar-08 | ? |
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Gold Member Username: SomedonniedudeIllinois United States Post Number: 1820 Registered: May-07 | If it makes a difference the Q should hit lower. Honestly, I think 2 RE SE's (12"s or 15"s) would fit your needs. I've haven't heard any of these subs in person though. |
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Silver Member Username: DlavanteTigard, Or USA Post Number: 117 Registered: Feb-07 | i was debating between something similar when i was looking for a new system and ended up going with the Q's.. id ask naledge he has a lot of experience with both subs |
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New member Username: AllthingzaudioA - TOWN - WEST-END, GA USA Post Number: 10 Registered: Jul-08 | I think you have to go with the Q. I do not know about the 2.5 but that hdc3 sub is worthless. It is a internet hype. If i wanted to buy a hundered of them from china i could pick my own colors and get my own subwoofer. There is like 7 companies that have the same subwoofers just diffrent colors. The American bass ho is the same along with many others. I owned a Btl and it slammed. When i put them in a box tuned to 28hz it did not like it at all. They broke in to much and became weak. But i know they are not made for that 28hz stuff. But i am thinking about trying the Q's now either 4 or 6 fifteen inch. I think they will perform how i want them to. |
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Silver Member Username: Chevyfan502AQ HDC315Elemental De... Post Number: 129 Registered: May-06 | RAY RAY ur a fkin retard...hdc3 is a very great quality sub made with the some of the best parts availabe...and the american bass subs are rip offs, only thing similiar is the cone and basket...cheaper parts and sold for a higher cost...and far as durability the HDC3 is all as good and better as FI's subs...and usually u should tune higher than 28hz...lower to mid 30's is best but that is preference...u just made urself sound like an idiot...plz leave this forum before make an even bigger jacka** of urself.. |
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Bronze Member Username: AllthingzaudioA - TOWN - WEST-END, GA USA Post Number: 11 Registered: Jul-08 | You want to put some $$ down on that? I can prove the American bass and the hdc3 are the same. Look at the coil and spiders on the flat wind version. Same coil and spiders. I will bet $$ if we test both of them new out the box they show the same fs/bl/spl at 1 watt and all. |
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Bronze Member Username: AllthingzaudioA - TOWN - WEST-END, GA USA Post Number: 12 Registered: Jul-08 | If the hdc3 was so good they would have stayed the hd3 and never picked the c up. |
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Gold Member Username: Philly306James Carrol is the re... Post Number: 1164 Registered: Apr-07 | Ray Ray 1. that last statment made no sense 2. to call a hdc3 a worthless you would have to be a complete fücking retard. 3. name the 7 companies you stated above that have a clone of the hdc3 4. Yes companies do use designs that other companies use as well. This is not uncommon. 5.What personal experience do you have with the hdc3? Based on this thread and your post in another thread where you stated Image Dynamics coudn't take your abuse leads me to doubt your audio knowledge and installation skills. |
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Gold Member Username: Drant19DUB-C, TX Post Number: 1085 Registered: Aug-07 | ray ray just got pwned |
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Bronze Member Username: AllthingzaudioA - TOWN - WEST-END, GA USA Post Number: 13 Registered: Jul-08 | Man please, who are you to call me out of my name? And hdc3 was the first? to use this almost identical subwoofer as the american bass, zapco, mach 5 spl, konaki, elivation audio, and i will have to look the rest up. I have seen them blow and sound like sh-t. Then the recone came and behold the exact same as American bass recone. I over powered the Image dynamics by 30% is why they failed. I throw dollars and make it back tomarrow. Thats what i do Look at the cone, surround, motor, leads, and i can get you pictures of the coil and former. Now if there all the same as the american bass on then whats not the same? Oh i know!, the colors and dust cap and the ship box. Come on man take you argument to someone else that don't know. Ill make a bet for $$ there the same and even buy the recones but you pay if i am correct. I run all sorts of stuff, I blow stuff all the time and take things to there limits. When they break i usually recone or repair and give it or sell it cheap to one of the little homies around the way. I also bet money the Q will hands down beat it in almost every test. Maybe not short power burps but once the hdc3 breaks in they will most likely be the same in that test. Atleast Fi builds in the USA STILL.... I live in the real world and only speak on first hand Philly, I am not one to speak off what others tell me to be so. |
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Bronze Member Username: AllthingzaudioA - TOWN - WEST-END, GA USA Post Number: 14 Registered: Jul-08 | Put up $$ or shut up |
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Gold Member Username: Tatonka-[Team Audible Insanity]- Post Number: 1933 Registered: Mar-07 | Your grammar sounds like you are one of the people that goes around the "hood" blaring meaningless music while clipping your subs. Is that the "abuse" you are speaking of? |
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Bronze Member Username: AllthingzaudioA - TOWN - WEST-END, GA USA Post Number: 15 Registered: Jul-08 | Never clipping, Man dont judge me because were i am from. Yes i am from the hood does that make me less? |
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Gold Member Username: HdubbTeam Revolution Post Number: 3833 Registered: Nov-04 | eh what elevation audio sub is similar to the hdc and ab? i have never seen one. the konaki is different and the mach 5 spl is waaaayyyyy different nothing even close to the same there. the a.b hd and the aq hdc are the same sub and the zapco. but the mach 5 spl and konaki are completely different. all greats subs in my book., yes they are made in china but thats about it. a good friend tells me all the time "some of the best subs ever are made in china" and 99 percent of parts come from china anyway. and what does it matter if a chinaman makes them here in the usa or in china? all built with cheap labor sir. fi uses chinese parts as well son.and the q may sound better then the hdc but the hdc will handle more power and have more output then the q. |
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Gold Member Username: HdubbTeam Revolution Post Number: 3834 Registered: Nov-04 | oh and to clear it up some. the a.b isnt a rip off of the hdc. its the same sub. the build house shows a lot of companies the designs and it goes from there. just like zenon and amps. and yes if you have a tax i.d. number you can get the samemoofa. but where aq shines is in knowledge and customer service....makes the product a little easier to buy lol. i still want one.  |
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Bronze Member Username: AllthingzaudioA - TOWN - WEST-END, GA USA Post Number: 16 Registered: Jul-08 | http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=306009&highlight=American+Bass+HD &page=2 that is were its at |
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Gold Member Username: JakeyplaysbassSt. Louis, MO / ASU Post Number: 3036 Registered: Jul-05 | Ray no one is judging you like that man, at least i hope not in a negative way. I will say if you have the 2 zapco 4kws like you said in the last post if you get 4 or even 6 Qs they will blow on those amps. My friend had his C2k 9.0 benched at 2ohm (rated at 4ohm) and it was doing over 2800rms at 13.5v. Each 4kw has TWO of those boards in it so you are looking at 10,000+ rms with an upgraded electrical. I dont see many Qs taking anywhere near that much power daily. "I run all sorts of stuff, I blow stuff all the time and take things to there limits. When they break i usually recone or repair and give it or sell it cheap to one of the little homies around the way." If you hook me up with a good price ill take the blown 4kw tonight. |
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Bronze Member Username: AllthingzaudioA - TOWN - WEST-END, GA USA Post Number: 17 Registered: Jul-08 | do you want to see what is blown first? It may need a new board. I can bring it home with me on friday and send you some pictures. If i get a line on a new amp i will sell the good one also. I had them about two and half years or so |
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Bronze Member Username: AllthingzaudioA - TOWN - WEST-END, GA USA Post Number: 18 Registered: Jul-08 | I am not saying the Q is great either all i was asking is what subs are? |
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Gold Member Username: Tatonka-[Team Audible Insanity]- Post Number: 1935 Registered: Mar-07 | "Never clipping, Man dont judge me because were i am from. Yes i am from the hood does that make me less?" I didn't judge by "where you are from." If you read, and stop being so illiterate, I said by your GRAMMAR. |
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Gold Member Username: JakeyplaysbassSt. Louis, MO / ASU Post Number: 3039 Registered: Jul-05 | Take pics and email me a price for the blown one. anthony.j.papa at asu.edu...  |
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Gold Member Username: Philly306James Carrol is the re... Post Number: 1165 Registered: Apr-07 | whew ok here we go. First off i couldn't care less how much money you have or how you treat you audio equipment. The fact that you blow equipment and pay to repair it means nothing to me except you have no apprieciation for what you have. I see your kind all the time on forums you're nothing different than the kids who think they know everything thiere is to know about audio. Now on to the audio. Apparently you didn't hear me the first time when I said IT IS COMMON FOR AUDIO COMPANIES TO USE THE SAME DESIGNS. Which elevation audio sub do you speak of there isn't a sub even remotely close to the hdc3 on thier site. As to the mach 5 spl comment. No sub under mach 5 is the same as the hdc3 either. heres the spec page if you didn't already know. http://www.audioque.com/aq/HDCSeries.htm http://www.mach5audio.com/zen/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=67&products _id=184 Your statements are beggining to fall apart. So i will gladly take your deal or as you might put it "put up yo $money$ foo". You buy an hdc3 motor and basket then find recones from all the companies you listed.(to refresh your memory Audioque hdc3, mach 5 spl, american bass, Elevation audio, Zapco, and konaki) You recone all of these to the hdc3 motor. If they all work the same then i will pay for for every expense. If they don't work which i know they all won't then you get to pay for it all and You will buy me a sub of my choice since i had to take the time out of my day to show your dumbass that you're a fücking idiot. im done your turn |
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Bronze Member Username: AllthingzaudioA - TOWN - WEST-END, GA USA Post Number: 19 Registered: Jul-08 | "Which elevation audio sub do you speak of there isn't a sub even remotely close to the hdc3 on thier site. " dude go to the link. No, dont change facts i said american bass and hdc3 are exact that is what i know. |
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Bronze Member Username: AllthingzaudioA - TOWN - WEST-END, GA USA Post Number: 20 Registered: Jul-08 | I will bet the american bass and the hdc3 are exact. What ever you want to bet. |
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Bronze Member Username: AllthingzaudioA - TOWN - WEST-END, GA USA Post Number: 21 Registered: Jul-08 | "I didn't judge by "where you are from." If you read, and stop being so illiterate, I said by your GRAMMAR." I am just Ray Ray i am not the best writer. Ima do me, you do you |
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Gold Member Username: Philly306James Carrol is the re... Post Number: 1166 Registered: Apr-07 | But wait NOW your story is changing? "Man please, who are you to call me out of my name? And hdc3 was the first? to use this almost identical subwoofer as the american bass, zapco, mach 5 spl, konaki, elivation audio, and i will have to look the rest up. " "man please" don't go change your story now. |
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