i have been buying over the net for many years but feel this practice has led to false economy. recently ordered a yamaha rx-v2400 from camerasandelectronics.com was told unit in stock, wouldn't bill card until shipped and they will now "call me" about a refund as the unit has not shown up for 3 weeks and is "back-ordered". first time burned, but also found out, as has been posted on this board, warranty not valid if not an authorized dealer for the yamaha receivers. heard this outfit is also a part of abe's of maine. i even checked them out on bbs.org and they had 12 complaints this year, now they have 13. will go to soundadvice and get this unit.