I'm driving myself crazy with this satellite. I'm installing my satellite but everytime I get a strong signal, its either BellExpressVU or Dish110W. I can't seem to find 119W. I'm been doing this FTA thing for 3yrs now but I have moved to a a new place but find the Dish 119W is crazy. I had 119W for a good hour but my quality was 40%-50% which sucks.
If ya had 119 to 40% Q, then U just had to be patient and tweak the dish alignment..and make sure U had good RG^ cable and tight connections..with a clear line of sight...and after its all aligned good, which U would know by doing a simple scan with NO switches involved, then input correct correspeonding antenna receiver settings..
using a DN receiver is simplest and easiest way to get true best signal..
Pansat 2700A LNB Type - Standard LNB Local Type - 11250 22khz - OFF diseqc - OFF legacySW - None SKEW - 45 Position setting - Disable Satellite Scan - All
U may have a TWIN dish pro LNB, and not 2 dual legacy LNB's..also may have a DP switch or a disque switch..or even a SW switch...if ya have a switch , where U actually input the cables into it will alter everything...U need to be more specific
I can see 1 thing definitely wrong in your settings...diseqc - OFF
I will guess, and say U should have the disque 1 = 119 sat, and #2 = 110 sat in your settings ...with or without any switch...a DP (dish pro) TWIN LNB has internal switch U cannot see..but U say U have Dual LNB, but most people don't know what they really have..
Its not your normal Satellite switch. 1IN 2OUTS...How do I configure. I have 2 Dual LNBS hooked up to a Y connector. Are my Settings suppose to be set up any other way?
U need a $5 disque switch 4x1...put 119 LNB cable into port 1, 110 into port 2...and run the single output from switch to your 1 receiver...then place same 119-110 settings into receiver
and if LNB's says "Dish Pro" then put LNB Type as "Dish Pro"...otherwise , use "standard" as LNB type..
type...either dish pro or standard freq is 11250 disque #1-119 disque #2-110 22-off sw -none scan- all
The idiot LK does NOT know what she is talking about. Connect the two wires to DiseqC Port 1 and 2.
Pansat 2700A - Echo 7 LNB Type - Standard (Try OSC an dish-pro) LNB Local Type - 11250 22khz - OFF TP Freq. 12224 V or 12239 V (try both) diseqc - Port 1 legacySW - None SKEW - 45 Position setting - Disable Satellite Scan - All
Disable in software the connection to 110w. Do a Power Scan (Blind Scan) Switch off at back and on.
Now disable in software the connection to 119w. Pansat 2700A - Echo 8.10 LNB Type - Standard (Try OSC an dish-pro) LNB Local Type - 11250 22khz - ON TP Freq. 12224 V diseqc - Port 2 (Try "none" with 22khz off) legacySW - None SKEW - 45 Position setting - Disable Satellite Scan - All
Do a Power Scan (Blind Scan) Switch off at back and on.
another 9 degrees and then u got the 119, with the correct alignment and settings i gave U...
BTW, be careful of Nalin...she is an employee of Dishnetwork, here to kill FTA and disguised as a true member here...she also uses many other names such as Plymouth, Pulp, Cartier, The Coder, etc..
James Thomas LK is helpful but a little bit agitated It,s Ritalin time and after go to sleep.
Without joke all this good guys are not Nalin. LK had do charge on Admin and Admin says all charges from LK are false. Take your proper conclusion. Thanks
I give up.. I thank you all for you help but I'm gonna just chill on the Dual or the two headed LNBS(119&110) for now & get just focus on Dish119W. So far when I try to find 119W, I'm stuck getting 110W(GREAT!!)
To get a signal, the satellite dish must be pointed directly at the satellite, with NO obstructions between the two. This means NO trees and NO buildings. Take into consideration future tree growth, house remodeling or additions and new construction in your area.
The satellite signal WILL NOT PASS through leaves or branches. Use our Satellite Look Angle calculator to determine the proper dish angles.
Finding a Clear Line of Sight
Get yourself a good compass, the best you can afford. Check the "Azimuth" and "Elevation" for your location here!
Locate at least one site on your property that has a clear view to the satellite.
Do you have at least one clear view to the satellite? Remember, no trees, leaves, or buildings can be between the dish and the satellite.
If the answer is NO, your site may not be suitable for installing the satellite system.
If the answer is MAYBE, you may want to contact a local digital satellite dealer for information about having a professional installer conduct a thorough site survey.
If the answer is YES, your site should be suitable for installing the system. Go ahead to the next section of these instructions.
LNBF Polarization Tilt (skew):
Your LNB is marked with a label indicating the polarization tilt. Your local LNB polarity offset information varies by location. If you are in Houston, TX your LNB polarization is to be set at 0 degrees. But if you are on the California coast your LNB polarization could be as much as minus 30 degrees (clockwise rotation). And if you are in Maine your LNB polarization could be as much as plus 30 degree (counter-clockwise rotation). Peaking the dish and adjusting the polarity of the LNB will greatly improve your Signal Quality reading.
When adjusting your LNB, it's not going to be turned more than 31 degrees (unless you live in Hawaii). Also be sure you don't leave that LNB plastic bracket loose. The LNB won't pick up the satellite if the bracket is loose, and it's slightly off. Finally, when thinking about degrees, remember that 30 degrees is about 5 minutes on a clock. Don't turn the LNB too much!
Make certain that the pole or tri-mast assembly is vertically plumb. Check it with an Angle Finder or a level. If the pole or tri-mast is not plumb, your azimuth and elevation will not be accurate and will cause difficulty when pointing the dish. Also, if you are using a pole mount, make certain you pour a sufficient footing that will provide proper ballast. A pole that does not have sufficient ballast will lean over time, causing you to lose the signal. Your mount must be very strong and can not wobble. You must use at least 4 lag screws (correct size for your installation) in the base mount one on each corner.
When pointing the satellite dish, allow 5-10 seconds between any movements of the dish. This allows the receiver to complete a signal scan, and lock indicating that you have located the signal.
A reasonable signal strength is between 50 and 80. If it is lower than that range, you are either pointing into an object (e.g. trees, shrubs, or structures) or pointing above or below the satellite. Your antenna installation position must have a clear view angle of the satellite you are trying to receive.
There are other satellites within 2 degrees to the left or right that may use the same frequency. This will provide a strong signal strength reading but no signal quality or signal lock. If you have a high strength reading but are not able to lock on, try adjusting the dish slightly to the right or left.
When you are attempting to set up a satellite dish in a heavily wooded area or one with lots of man made obstructions, it helps to understand how the dish really works. One common misconception is that the dish points 'directly' at the satellite. This isn't the case for most dish designs. The apparent elevation of the dish is 15 or more degrees lower than it's actual receiving window. Have a look at this diagram.... it's easier to see it than it is to explain it.....
If you complete the above steps properly, your chance of a successful installation is 99.9%.
Be aware that when you have finished your mechanical installation and you are trying to aim your dish that the receiver waits about 3-5 seconds after it locks on to the correct signal before it registers on the receiver's signal meter on the antenna aiming screen on your TV. Move your dish in very small increments (2 deg East or West each instance until you find the signal then 1 deg to peak signal). If you move the dish too fast and do not pause between moves you might go thru the signal before the receiver can tell you that you are on the signal.
If you use a signal meter you can hook it into the system right at the dish and it responds to the signal immediately making it much easier to aim your dish. You do not need any one else to help you if you use a meter at the dish.
Compare Signal Strength and Quality Zero Strength and Zero Quality:
If this is the symptom you are experiencing, then the receiver is currently not receiving the signal from the dish. Check all connections between your receiver and the dish. Make sure that they are all plugged in to the proper place and are tight.
One of the most common connection problems is to have the cable coming from the dish plugged in to the connection marked "In from Antenna," which is incorrect. The cable coming from the dish needs to be plugged in to the connection marked "In from Dish, Digital In, or LNB IN"
Also, the cables might have developed a short or might have gotten moisture in them, especially out at the dish. If this is a possibility, you may want to have an installer check the cables or take them to an installer yourself.
0-30 Strength and Zero Quality: If you are experiencing these levels of strength and quality, you are getting only noise signals. Make sure that there are no obstacles between the dish and satellite.
40-60 Strength and Zero Quality: With this level of strength and a lack of quality, it is very likely that the dish has moved since its initial installation or you are still off alignment. We recommend going through the Dish Installation pointing steps and finding the satellite signal again. This will likely take just a few minor adjustments of the dish since it should not have moved very much. Key causes for this problem include bolts not being tightened properly, heavy winds, or the dish being struck or bumped by something. Once the signal has been found again, make certain all bolts are tightened well.
We also recommend that once you have everything tightened down and have your signal back, make a mark from the cap mount to the pole with paint or some other permanent substance. This will give you a reference point, should any future problems occur. You can also make a mark on the side of the cap mount where your elevation markings are imprinted.
40-60 Strength and 30-70 Quality: This level of strength and quality indicates that the dish needs to be fine-tuned to the satellite. You may have noticed that prior to getting the "Bad or No Signal" message your picture was occasionally blotchy and your audio may have been out of sync with the picture. These are all symptoms of the need to fine-tune the dish. Optimum signal quality is between 70 and 100.
TIP: You can fine-tune your dish by going back to the signal strength screen. While the signal bar is running, have someone out at the dish. He will need to loosen the collar that holds the LNB. This is done by slightly loosening the two screws that hold the collar together. Once these screws are loose, slowly twist the LNB a fraction of an inch. After each movement allow 5 seconds for the receiver to register the change and update your quality reading. If the quality readings immediately begin to get lower while the adjustments are being made, then the LNB needs to be turned in the other direction. Once the LNB fine tuning is complete, tighten the two screws on the LNB collar. You may then complete the scan by pressing START.
A discussion of signal strength and quality... Signal strength as measured by your receiver is an interpretation of the EIRP (Effective Isotropic Radiated Power) received from the satellite. This measures the result of a signal uplinked to a satellite, then amplified and downlinked to your dish, and across the cabling and connectors into your receiver. A bad cable, or a loose connection can alter the strength of the signal. A major storm between you and the satellite can alter the strength of your signal. Moving the dish away from the path of the signal can cause it to be lost completely or cause it to be replaced by some other EIRP such as another satellite or the naturally occurring radiation power of the earth. Ideally you want 100% signal which means the signal sent from the earth station to the satellite, then amplified and sent to you is as good as it gets. Anything above 70% is considered acceptable.
Quality is the measurement of how well your lnb is picking up the amplified frequencies of the corresponding transponders on the satellite. If you're dialed up to the correct satellite and you have sufficient strength, then the frequency signal sent by a particular transponder on the satellite will be picked up by the transponder in your lnb. The frequencies translated as quality signal can then be provided to your receiver allowing you to watch "Dr. Phil."
Here's an interesting C&P I found addressing signal strength and quality:
Zero Strength and Zero Quality:
If this is the symptom you are experiencing, then the receiver is currently not receiving the signal from the dish. Check all connections between your receiver and the dish. Make sure that they are all plugged in to the proper place and are tight. One of the most common connection problems is to have the cable coming from the dish plugged in to the connection marked "In from Antenna," which is incorrect Free to air Satellite tv receivers and FTA satellite TV programming is fun.. The cable coming from the dish needs to be plugged in to the connection marked "In from Dish, Digital In, or LNB IN"
Also, the cables might have developed a short or might have gotten moisture in them, especially out at the dish. If this is a possibility, you may want to have an installer check the cables or take them to an installer yourself.
0-30 Strength and Zero Quality:
If you are experiencing these levels of strength and quality, you are getting only noise signals. Make sure that there are no obstacles between the dish and satellite.
40-60 Strength and Zero Quality:
With this level of strength and a lack of quality, it is very likely that the dish has moved since its initial installation or you are still off alignment. We recommend going through the Dish Installation pointing steps and finding the satellite signal again. This will likely take just a few minor adjustments of the dish since it should not have moved very much. Key causes for this problem include bolts not being tightened properly, heavy winds, or the dish being struck or bumped by something. Once the signal has been found again, make certain all bolts are tightened well. We also recommend that once you have everything tightened down and have your signal back, make a mark from the cap mount to the pole with paint or some other permanent substance. This will give you a reference point, should any future problems occur. You can also make a mark on the side of the cap mount where your elevation markings are imprinted.
40-60 Strength and 30-70 Quality:
This level of strength and quality indicates that the dish needs to be fine-tuned to the satellite. You may have noticed that prior to getting the "Bad or No Signal" message your picture was occasionally blotchy and your audio may have been out of sync with the picture. These are all symptoms of the need to fine-tune the dish. Optimum signal quality is between 70 and 100. TIP: You can fine-tune your dish by going back to the signal strength screen. Free to air Satellite tv receivers and FTA satellite TV programming is fun. While the signal bar is running, have someone out at the dish. He will need to loosen the collar that holds the LNB. This is done by slightly loosening the two screws that hold the collar together. Once these screws are loose, slowly twist the LNB a fraction of an inch. After each movement allow 5 seconds for the receiver to register the change and update your quality reading. If the quality readings immediately begin to get lower while the adjustments are being made, then the LNB needs to be turned in the other direction. Once the LNB fine tuning is complete, tighten the two screws on the LNB collar. You may then complete the scan. __________________
The above is an example of C/Ps available all over the web, and the general irrelevance of it.
I can post 2000 such C/Ps if wanted. They are all quite good and informative, but they do not often answer the question asked, and usually do not provide a clear cut solution.
I just wanted to point out what LK's so-called "answer" to this guy's question really was.
I can bring 2000 posts from just two site I visit.
LK, that is the difference between you and me. You see a word in a question, pick a C/P file form your drive and post it. Your method is mostly unhelpful.
Next time try and read the question and answer specifically. There may yet be hope for you from total redundancy.
Of course, if you continue resorting to fraud and selling names and IP addresses from your websites, you will be in trouble with the law.
