ECM update by "King"
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Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 2459 Registered: Oct-06 | Back in September 2007 when I said new ECM targets FTA receiver hardware or polarity I wasn't that far off. This is not about me being right or wrong I wrote about my hardware observations So today I wanted to share some of my recent observations I spent more recent time on internet phone So I haven't spent that much time on FTA TV recently But this is what I see so far - Key rolling hasn't been a big factor to recent ECM - Something else - I noticed change in frequency coordinates rather than keys - This is why every ECM must have a new bin fix - This seems to be the approach that Nagra wanted to take - Blind scan will not work with an old bin for very same reason I figured To share this with yo To help understand what was going on recently And I wanted to give credits to coders for keeping up with hardware as frequency change is not a software. Brilliant thought by Nagra that disrupted coders for several weeks but coders responded back within few days since early November 2007 I just wanted to provide this explanation To help everyone understand what really happened And how to understand recent ECMs King T.M. |
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New member Username: RmbrthlmoColumbia, SC Post Number: 3 Registered: Dec-07 | Tapeman, based on this, does the "full EMU" BL is talking about seem to be right around the cornmer? I mean, is it really plausible? |
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Silver Member Username: BirdwatcherPost Number: 696 Registered: Jul-06 | Who gives a f.uck. as long as someone fixes it!!!! |
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Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 2460 Registered: Oct-06 | WGAF The people want to understand what's going on I can see yo are not one of them Sam I'm not a part of this battle I never was I only provide answers from my electronics prospective according to my personal observation |
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New member Username: RmbrthlmoColumbia, SC Post Number: 4 Registered: Dec-07 | Hey KT, I understand, and believe me, I wasn't adding fuel to the fire. I was only asking because you seem to be one of the few around here who actually knows what the hell is going on. |
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Gold Member Username: NydasPost Number: 8571 Registered: Jun-06 | Full EMU is a reasonable step forward. Beta 6 has been released for Satopia receivers. There is talk of Nagra 3 implementation coming up, and this will put BL and other coders back again by a few months. One can expect a one month holiday when Nagra 3 gets fully implemented. However, the coders have had a chance to look at at because it is already implemented in Europe - so the gap may be shorter than a month. |
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New member Username: RmbrthlmoColumbia, SC Post Number: 5 Registered: Dec-07 | Nalin, Thanks for the info. I respect your and KT's professionalism in this site. |
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Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 2465 Registered: Oct-06 | Glad to please yo with my goods sam  Just kidding |
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Silver Member Username: DimwittPost Number: 435 Registered: Aug-06 | King , as usual it is all about you. Just another in a series of self grandizing posts. |
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Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 2478 Registered: Oct-06 | I'm not against PTA by any means Infact I do like PTA as I learned a great deal about satellites I do love satellites as it has been my new hobby in the past 18 months I learned the most from newbies as well as senior members like LK and Nalin and many others I learned even more by exchanging information here at ecoustics I'm sure many other members learned from me as we all continue learn from each other and support each other But it comes time when I see strong indications I will only stick with facts and hard evidence So when the screen turns black yo don't say we didn't see it coming Right now the only PTA is thru Nagra2 And that is about to change Nagra2 and Nagra3 are side by side in 2 parallel streams It does not take a genius to figure out Nagra2 to drop out leaving only Nagra3 So PTA has time We don't know exactly how much time??? I was wrong in the past as far as estimating time And I always said is just a guess Now things have changed And soon it will be a reality Here is what our ecoustics anchor man friend Zulu found: https://www.ecoustics.com/cgi-bin/bbs/show.pl?tpc=2&post=1469113#POST1469113 Bell is ready for a card swap // 2008-02-26 From EKB: ExpressVu implementing new anti-piracy measures Monday, 25 February 2008 For the second time in three years, Bell ExpressVu is introducing a new signal encryption system which the company hopes will thwart pirates from stealing its satellite television signals. The implementation of the new encryption system by ExpressVu is a two step process similar to the company's last encryption scheme change in July of 2005. To defeat pirates from stealing their broadcasts, digital cable and satellite television providers, such as ExpressVu, encrypt the signals prior to transmission. Once the signals reach the subscribers homes, the encrypted signals can only be decrypted by an authorized digital set top box or satellite receiver. Since the last encryption scheme update in 2005, the ExpressVu and Dish Network systems in the United States, have been seriously compromised by satellite pirates who are using inexpensive Free-to-Air (FTA) receivers to illegally watch ExpressVu and Dish programming. Last year, the Carmel Group estimated that more than 2 million homes in North America were pirating Bell ExpressVu and Dish Network Direct-to-Home (DTH) satellite television signals. To combat the pirates, ExpressVu is introducing its new signal encryption system in a two step process. The first step is to issue new firmware updates to all Bell direct-to-home (DTH) satellite receivers. The firmware update is typically sent out by the company at night to selected receivers without any intervention by the subscriber. Digital Home readers inform us that Bell has already begun upgrading the firmware in several satellite receivers including the ExpressVu 5100, 5800 and 5900 standard definition PVR's and 6100 HD receivers. The second step in the update process is for subscribers to perform a card swap. In a national dealer bulletin issued earlier this month, the company informed dealers that all impacted clients will receive a letter in the mail with the new upgraded Conditional Access (CA) SmartCard and instructions on how to swap their cards. Swapping the SmartCard on ExpressVu receivers is usually a simple process. On most ExpressVu receivers, the SmartCard is located at the front on the left hand side. The card fits into a small slot and, depending on the model, is either exposed or behind a protective panel. The subscriber just removes the old card and slides in the new one. Some ExpressVu receivers may not have a SmartCard in the slot so the subscriber simply slides the new card in the free slot. Once the new card is in place, customers can activate the new card online or via a toll free phone number. Bell says it will then take approximately 15 minutes to 2 hours for programming to return to normal. Also few days ago on lyngsat DN had N1 & N2 on their 2 streams Today it is N2 & N3 So what's next? |
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Platinum Member Username: LklivesPost Number: 14032 Registered: Jan-06 | here's the new bev card  |
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Gold Member Username: DoreenakadjOntario Canada Post Number: 1256 Registered: Dec-06 | i never got one in the mail  i never got a notice either |
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Platinum Member Username: LklivesPost Number: 14034 Registered: Jan-06 | U will...swap begins 15 April. |
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Platinum Member Username: LklivesPost Number: 14035 Registered: Jan-06 | Bev card swap -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- well was doing some reading and thought this might be of value. copy and paste below: Here is some info on bev card swap c/p from IDD Effective date Immediately Description This year Bell ExpressVu will be upgrading select receivers with a new version of the Conditional Access (CA) SmartCard. Store Impacts: ExpressVu would like stores to focus on selling rather than swapping cards. Therefore, all swapping will be done either at the supply chain end of the business or at the client level. Store inventory of receivers with the current card/software will continue to function for several months so stores can continue to sell these. Once these receivers are activated on a client account ExpressVu will send out a new card along with instructions on how to activate their replacement card. Client will be given the option of self activation via the web or by calling the activation centre. Important Stores should begin to exercise 'first in, first out' inventory practices so that as they receive new shipments of receivers with the new CA they will put these aside and sell their current inventory first. This will make the swap faster and more efficient for the client and retailer. In order to assist retailers in identifying which units have the new CA, ExpressVu will ship these out with a sticker affixed in proximity to the serial number / UPC label. This sticker will be orange in colour and bear the 'iTV' logo as seen below: The table below outlines the receivers models impacted and dates the receivers are being shipped with a new CA SmartCard Receiver Model Being shipping with new CA Smart Card 4100 / 4120 March 5900/5920 February Notes: • The receiver models 6141 and 9242 already come equipped with the new CA smart card. • All other models will be done at client level (i.e. 6120R, 9200, 3100, 5200 and etc.) • 2-TV bundles will only be stickered if both units within the kit contain the new CA. Client Impacts: Beginning April 15, 2008, Bell clients that require this upgrade will receive a letter, a new CA SmartCard and instructions on how to swap the SmrtCard. Client positioning • ExpressVu will be upgrading the software in your receiver(s), which will require you to install and activate a new SmartCard. Installing new SmartCards will ensure that you continue to receive programming and prepare you for future service enhancements to ExpressVu digital TV from Bell. Process • All impacted clients will receive a letter in the mail with the new upgraded CA SmartCard and instructions on how to swap their cards. Question and Answer Q1: What happens when current software no longer functions? A1: Any client with the current CA SmartCard will have been swapped well in advance of the termination date of the current software. Stores will be advised several weeks in advance of this software termination date. This will offer the opportunity for stores to inspect their on hand inventory for any units not bearing the sticker so that they can focus on selling these. ----------------------------- the interesting copy and paste: A little more info here....read on and take note... The card is rumored to be the ROM240 and will NOT be st19 processor based, so no current technology we have now will be useful against this card. IMO, this will not be like the time period that we had to wait for the N1 to N2, but I have no doubt that, like its predecessors, it will eventually be compromised. The ROM206 is already dumped, which is probably why the providers had to go to NagraVision for something newer for an impending swap. NagraVision, BTW, just acquired a chip fabrication facility which is even more worrisome, they can now do their own proprietary hardware and code. From what I have read, the SW (S0x) cards scan the eeprom on boot up. If any modifications are detected then the card does not boot. Doesnt sound promising at all heh. Can only imagine what the Rom 240 has in store also....... Kudelski Group to acquire EmbedICs February 8, 2008 By Robert Briel The Kudelski Group today announced an agreement to acquire EmbedICs, Inc., a US-based embedded software, cryptography and fabless semiconductor design firm delivering security solutions for the Digital TV market. EmbedICs has successfully developed customized security solutions for several Fortune 500 companies. Recent projects included the development of: system level requirements definition, secure ASICs and embedded firmware design, continuously available secure database services and critical personalization and manufacturing infrastructure to support a US-wide security initiative. The parties anticipate that the acquisition will close in the next 30 days. |
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Platinum Member Username: LklivesPost Number: 14036 Registered: Jan-06 | BTW...many people have already received their new cards... also, I beleive channel 263 has card swap info.. So the Bev card swap and N3 are real.. |
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Gold Member Username: NydasPost Number: 8610 Registered: Jun-06 | Doreen: I already got my notification. It seems they are ahead of their planned schedule. |
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Bronze Member Username: Popol_vuhPost Number: 35 Registered: Jan-08 | Notice how beverly always presents you the poison in a nice shiny apple... The hypocrisy makes me sick... If more people would open their eyes and understand that they are charging you for something that is already paid for by publicity they would finally be treated like any other extortionists. Commercial-free channels, on the other hand, that is a legitimate business to charge for. I wonder what will happen when the conventional free over the air channels will finally be dropped and everything goes by satellite. That should spark some discussions... |
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Bronze Member Username: Tekomi_elhoyoPost Number: 63 Registered: Jun-06 | The Sky is falling, The sky is falling, for now... |
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Platinum Member Username: LklivesPost Number: 14043 Registered: Jan-06 | hehehe...  |
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Silver Member Username: Tigger_woods2008 RESOLUTION, I WILL BE NI... VIP MEMBER Post Number: 463 Registered: Jun-07 | I haven`t got my card yet either, I think the problem may be that I don`t subscribe to their service? I do have a slot for a card in my VS  |
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Gold Member Username: NydasPost Number: 8620 Registered: Jun-06 | If you are in Canada and watching Bell ExpressVu, you have to subscibe. |
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Gold Member Username: DoreenakadjOntario Canada Post Number: 1257 Registered: Dec-06 | Nalin ... thats not quite true ... I watch BELL ExpressVu on my FTA recievers too and I don't subscibe for the serves of FTA.. BUT on the other hand I do subscibe for just the basic package for BELL ExpressVu. So I WANT MY DARN CARD LOL. |
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Gold Member Username: NydasPost Number: 8622 Registered: Jun-06 | Call them up. They will send you one. |
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Gold Member Username: DoreenakadjOntario Canada Post Number: 1258 Registered: Dec-06 | i wonder tho my bev receiver is about 3 maybe 4 years old maybe I dont need a card? Just a thought because when we get FLASHED a notice comes up on the screen to plug into the phone line and get updates. I never really looked at the receiver to see if it has a card or not. I will check and get back to you later.. its kinda high and out of the way for me to see it without taking it down and stuff. I wil wait till hubby gets home and make him do it. |
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Gold Member Username: DoreenakadjOntario Canada Post Number: 1259 Registered: Dec-06 | call them up? And what do i say " oh BTW I hack you satellite and I read on a FTA forum that there are cards given out to subs like myself and I want mind". LOL OH that will go over real well. They will ask how do I know about the nagra3 change over. I would think so anyway. It's not like its brodcast it all over the place not even on the internet. Only in places like this. |
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Gold Member Username: NydasPost Number: 8624 Registered: Jun-06 | "a notice comes up on the screen to plug into the phone line and get updates." The litle old witch from Florida said this does not happen. |
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Gold Member Username: DoreenakadjOntario Canada Post Number: 1260 Registered: Dec-06 | well it happens here Nilan. When ever we unplug the receiver and move it we have to get back the transmitions and info for what we are paying for or in a power outage. Doesn't happen a lot but does happen. Oh I checked the receiver and its got a slot in the front for a card but no card in it. Its a 4100 series bell expressvu box. Pay-per-view events may be ordered either via a remote (requiring a phone line connection), via Bell's website, or via an automated phone system. Ordering via remote is the most effective method. With initial use, the phone line technically does not need to be connected; the receiver's smartcard actually has the ability to unlock permissions to a few Pay-per-view events before it actually has to dial-out. Regular movies cost $4.99, adult movies vary between $6.99 and $9.99, adult packaged events are $24.99, while sporting events can vary up to about $50.00. ExpressVu carries all popular movies that have recently been released on DVD along with major sporting events including boxing, World Wrestling Entertainment and Ultimate Fighting Championship. Red Carpet Vu is a Pay-per-view movie service broadcasted in a group of six to ten different channels where a daily featured movie starts every fifteen minutes. some good reading ExpressVu broadcasts from four geostationary satellites: Nimiq 1, 2, 3 and 4iR. All follow an equatorial path, giving coverage to most of Canada. Nimiq is an Inuktitut word for "that which unifies" and was chosen from a nationwide naming contest in 1998. The four satellites are owned and operated by Telesat Canada (a BCE corporation). ExpressVu's uplink site is located in North York which is in the Toronto area. Nimiq 1 was launched on May 20, 1999 and contains 32 Ku-band transponders at 91° W. Nimiq 2, launched in December 29, 2002, also includes 32 K-band transponders. Nimiq 2 provides HDTV, international programming, and all newly released channels. It occupies the 82° W slot. Nimiq 3 went online on August 23, 2004. Originally called DirecTV3, it is an old DirecTV satellite moved to a new orbital slot near Nimiq 1 to offload some of the transmitting work from the original satellite. In February 2006, Nimiq 3 was moved behind Nimiq 2 to support it, while another satellite, Nimiq 4i (formerly DirecTV2), took Nimiq 3's spot behind Nimiq 1. Nimiq 4i was replaced with Nimiq 4iR as it ran out of fuel on April 28, 2007 and was de-orbited. Nimiq 4iR is temporary and will be replaced by a newly launched satellite in 2008 which will take the name Nimiq 4. Both Nimiq 3 and Nimiq 4iR feature 16 Ku-band transponders. From the time of service launch in 1997 to the switch to Nimiq in 1999, ExpressVu used the already crowded Anik E2. Each satellite typically has 32 divisions of signal, ie. transponders. A transponder usually has enough bandwidth to broadcast approximately 10 channels. Because HDTV requires more bandwidth, some transponders on Nimiq 2 will typically broadcast only 4-5 channels. LyngSat provides a listing of channels on Nimiq 1 and Nimiq 2 broken down by transponder. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExpressVu#Interactive_services |
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Bronze Member Username: Tekomi_elhoyoPost Number: 64 Registered: Jun-06 | Well, soon the Por_n will be gone, probably for some time. So, put to practice all that you have learned, while waiting for the signal to come back, if it comes back at all. |
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Platinum Member Username: LklivesPost Number: 14051 Registered: Jan-06 | as stated above...again.. Receiver Model Being shipping with new CA Smart Card 4100 / 4120 March 5900/5920 February Beginning April 15, 2008, Bell clients that require this upgrade will receive a letter, a new CA SmartCard and instructions on how to swap the SmrtCard. ExpressVu will be upgrading the software in your receiver(s), which will require you to install and activate a new SmartCard. Installing new SmartCards will ensure that you continue to receive programming and prepare you for future service enhancements to ExpressVu digital TV from Bell. |
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Gold Member Username: NydasPost Number: 8627 Registered: Jun-06 | Doreen: If Bell is sleeping or slipping, let it be so till end of March at least. |
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Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 2489 Registered: Oct-06 | Just for the record My VU-Sat Xtreeme never went down I knew it was coming I turned auto roll off since 10 days ago Like I posted in the past: Posted on Thursday, October 25, 2007 - 10:35 am: https://www.ecoustics.com/cgi-bin/bbs/show.pl?tpc=2&post=1291465#POST1291465 Posted on Tuesday, October 16, 2007 - 06:53 pm: https://www.ecoustics.com/cgi-bin/bbs/show.pl?tpc=2&post=1284592#POST1284592 https://www.ecoustics.com/cgi-bin/bbs/show.pl?tpc=2&post=1286672#POST1286672 Posted on Saturday, January 12, 2008 - 04:50 pm: https://www.ecoustics.com/cgi-bin/bbs/show.pl?tpc=2&post=1399991#POST1399991 I have many more threads I wrote I can't even remember But these will give yo the idea VS products Keep your auto roll off This is the only way they can excute bios halt |
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Silver Member Username: PlymouthQuebec city, Quebec Canada Post Number: 447 Registered: Jan-08 | Thanks for the info King |
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Silver Member Username: 1tina_chickPost Number: 219 Registered: Mar-06 | Avoid the Christmas Rush - BUY NFUSION NOW !  Little or no Down Time  |
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Gold Member Username: NydasPost Number: 8658 Registered: Jun-06 | King: You had the right prediction about VS. |
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Gold Member Username: TapemanNew York City in-HD, NY Post Number: 2493 Registered: Oct-06 | So what yo are saying: Every few weeks buy the number#1 FTA seller And when they have Nagra3 swap Yo'll have a great collection of FTA receivers Before Christmas |
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Silver Member Username: BirdwatcherPost Number: 721 Registered: Jul-06 | King tape is full of bullshit} |
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Silver Member Username: BirdwatcherPost Number: 723 Registered: Jul-06 | LK AND HIS MERRY BAND OF PHAGS!!!!! YOU GUYS STILL SUCK |
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