Its Far From Over!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Silver Member
Username: Dishlover

Toronto, Ontario Canad

Post Number: 107
Registered: Jun-06
It's far from over

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Thanks to coders recent efforts we are all STILL enjoying TV, but the industry itself is in a slump. People are afraid to buy FTA receivers now, due largely to the legal scare tactics used by providers, and the constant barage of ECM's. This is exactly what they wanted, to scare enough people into believing the end is near. This is FAR from the truth! They've thrown everything at us, including timer specific, clock specific, map calls & combinations there of. Each time coders from the various Teams have beaten the providers nastiest ECM's, and shown some true ingenuity in finding solutions. Competition has been excellent and down time has been minimal. We've seen who is on top of the game and surprisingly, MANY have responded and shown their market tenacity to stay in this game. I'm not here to push one brand over the other, quite to the contrary, I'm simply stating for the record, that this game is far from over. We've seen many different manufacturers and coding Teams respond very quickly to the hurdles presented by providers, and this is good. Competition is always healthy for every market. This keeps manufacturers on their toes and brings benefits to us all. What everyone needs to realize is, these last few weeks, providers have pulled out all the stops to try and frustrate coders and testers alike. This has had the desired effect on the market and sales have slowed, but it has also led coders to certain break thru's that just about guarantees less downtime in the future. A few very smart & talented people pooled their info & knowlege and have come out with an actual emulator that works with out a card. The new emulator is actually able to duplicate and emulate all map functions, as well as timers & timer functions, and is clock cycle specific & accurate down to 1 clock cycle. While a complete emulation of the Rom is currently too large to fit in the individual bins, they can now get very specific information that before was hidden. Timer responce times can now be logged, as well as map calls and clock jitter. VERY accurate files can now be written and much quicker than ever before. Barriers between coder groups have been breached. Knowlege is being shared now better than ever before, and much has been learned about providers ecm's and their own limitations. As I stated earlier, I'm not here to push any one brand over the other, I am here to ask you all to take a minute'and reflect at how far this entire industry has come. We have benefits and features that were thought impossible at one time, and FTA has evolved into a multi-billion dollar industry! Don't let providers win! Don't give into their scare tactics & don't believe that its anywhere near the end. The way I see it, they've already hit us with their best shot, each time we rallied and came back. That in itself should be comforting enough for all to have Peace of mind enough to make an informed decision and subsequent purchase of your favorite box without fear that it will all end tomorrow.
Simply put, that aint happening, not tomorrow nor anytime soon. Its "Far from Over" C/P
 

Silver Member
Username: Nub2fta

N/a, N/a Canada

Post Number: 118
Registered: Aug-06
Cheers to that!
 

Gold Member
Username: Tapeman

New York City in-HD, NY

Post Number: 2253
Registered: Oct-06
Tamara
This is a good post
But I like to look for first hand facts

"The new emulator is actually able to duplicate and emulate all map functions, as well as timers & timer functions, and is clock cycle specific & accurate down to 1 clock cycle."

- My response is:
Emulation is not new same old spoof process to back door.
- This is how coders always made new and old bins
- They did slow down the sales of new receivers and went directly after VS and ceased many installers by stopping retailers from selling both DN and FTA receivers
- Yo hardly see many new product out there now
- Hacked not once but twice largest center of bin supplier
- I do see many indications of massive upgrades underway by both providers including new LNBs receivers swap cards. Don't forget service upgrade is not a push of a button it can take many weeks if not months.

They upgrade dish first
Changing cards and or boxes can be done in 3 months
Very difficult to know exact details

DN is doing a summit this May 17th 2008
- Will announce new digital box exchange
- New boxes to stop sub share
- Starting with all International subscribers

Bottom line: Charlie's plan to close PTA completely once for all
It is naturally service providers upgrade to newer technology
Certainly Cable TV did it in the 90s
I do not dislike PTA
All I'm doing is give warning based on few clues
Nothing wrong to expect the worst
I think ignoring few clues is the worst assumption
Only time will tell

If PTA last for few more months godbless DN and BEV
If PTA turns cold at least we expected it
What do yo think? of course pulp fiction is not included...he is got his excuse
 

Bronze Member
Username: Ehsankhan777

Post Number: 35
Registered: Jun-06
Thanks to the folks who have been helping us all and to you fine people who have enough experience to help us less fortunate people many many thanks
 

Silver Member
Username: North_of_ontario

Post Number: 512
Registered: Sep-07
no problem, .dude.........anytime.......
 

Silver Member
Username: Kingsatman

NYC, NY

Post Number: 246
Registered: Nov-07
Hey Maple
Have yo seen our friend pulp fiction
I think things went slightly out of hand
He won't be back again
Does this mean we won?
 

Silver Member
Username: North_of_ontario

Post Number: 514
Registered: Sep-07
just got here......was busy bangin' .pulp's mom......
was he "waxed"?.......
 

Silver Member
Username: North_of_ontario

Post Number: 516
Registered: Sep-07
so now who we're gonna have fun with ?!

( jk )............
 

Silver Member
Username: Kingsatman

NYC, NY

Post Number: 248
Registered: Nov-07
Man I have more than 200 clips
I'm sure we'll find some one else
Keep your eyes open
heheheheh
 

Silver Member
Username: Vikdamone

Post Number: 108
Registered: Jan-08
thank you for the informative post kingfagman I'll be sure to see the in may when you look like an asz that doesn't know what he's talking about. moron.
 

Silver Member
Username: Vikdamone

Post Number: 109
Registered: Jan-08
king retard how is it possible that a card change will only take 3 months please explain the logistics of that, retard
 

Silver Member
Username: Vikdamone

Post Number: 110
Registered: Jan-08
remember all your other warnings that never came true ya you know what i'm talking about the only warning needed is waring KING SAT-MAN has no clue about the industry
 

Gold Member
Username: Pulp_fiction

Post Number: 1177
Registered: Nov-07
Emails ? hmmmm

Yeah maybe u should mention how "yo" use more then one account on here like King Sat-Man as a dispoasble one cuz "JO" think "2000+" post gives "jo" creditabilty... Yet as "JO" have seen 99% of the other memebers on here can see right through you and realize "jo" know nothing about electronics or even have a basic understanding of FTA... You are one step up from Mapie Leaf far as knowledge of this hobby.....
 

Silver Member
Username: Kingsatman

NYC, NY

Post Number: 251
Registered: Nov-07
Listen dude
Yo got balls
I started to like yo
I really don't give a sh!t about FTA
But let me tell yo I consider my uncle one of the best in the world in electronics
This is a family business
Don't push our buttons
I assure yo it's not BS
LK must come back

- Yo are talking about multiple users huh
- How many users did yo actually use?
- Yo are talking about abuse? huh
- Yo are the biggest abussive person I have ever imagined
- Just think about your abuse...
- Yo don't think there are people out there that can stop yo
- Don't play with fire
- We can talk about electronics forget FTA I know very good electronics too
 

Gold Member
Username: Pulp_fiction

Post Number: 1182
Registered: Nov-07
well email to admin for ip comparison shall handle this....

U started something... I shall finish it for u :-)
 

Silver Member
Username: Kingsatman

NYC, NY

Post Number: 252
Registered: Nov-07
I tell yo what
Maple Leaf seems to like yo
I like yo too
So we can continue to play no one gets hurt
If yo contue your abuse I'll use my super power
I only wanted to get your attention
So let's play the game fare and square
No abuse, no super power

What my uncle saying about Nagra was true
It was a first hand test do not muck it
It's just an open disscusion...that's all

Listen I personally like your photo paint
Very creative I give yo a 10
Let's play some more
No major abuse, no super power, I promise
Let's keep the gloves on one no one gets hurt

I admit
Yo changed my life
I don't think I can stay here without yo
What yo say..let's play
 

Gold Member
Username: Pulp_fiction

Post Number: 1183
Registered: Nov-07
Well I kind of in a forgiving mood today... Even though u send emails to the sites staff talking crap... I will give u some rope... it's up to u what u do with this rope... u put the sh!t around ur neck again I gonna help u hang urself no doubt... I shall be watching...
 

Silver Member
Username: Kingsatman

NYC, NY

Post Number: 253
Registered: Nov-07
No man that's not true
I hate emails
I never sent e-mails
With all honesty my e-mail is down
Some low life hijacked my e-mail my kids e-mails etc.
I hate hackers
But I don't dislike PTA
That's the truth
 

Silver Member
Username: Borinick

Post Number: 146
Registered: Mar-07
Could we keep this respectful fourm please.
 

Bronze Member
Username: Cubiche

CUBA, CUBA

Post Number: 20
Registered: Jan-08
NOT AT ECOUSTICS YOU ILL GET USED TO THIS NICK.COME TO CRAZY.YOU WOULD LOVE IT.
 

Silver Member
Username: Borinick

Post Number: 147
Registered: Mar-07
i'm already menber at crazy fta i like it it's ok.
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