Dec 25 2007, the day that my motherboard modified (forget what I did, it was over 2 years ago?) Fortec Lifetime Ultra converted Pansat outperforms my Viewsat Extreme! OK so the EPG is slow and sometimes you have to switch the channels up and down before it locks in, but no freezing! I also think the picture has improved since the last time I used it (two years ago when I got the Viewsat?) Since Viewsat switched to the crappy atari like GUI it has gone downhill. Not sure if the coders quit or whatever but Viewsat was top of the line for almost 2 years. Not sure anymore, would not recommend purchasing a viewsat at the moment? Hopefully I am wrong and they are just waiting for the dust to settle after the last few weeks of ECM fun? So if you have an old FLU in the basement, dust it off, it is now working much better than it ever has!