RE 15 MT VS RE 15 XXX

 

Gold Member
Username: Loc_out

Santa Ana, Ca Resonant Eng...

Post Number: 1469
Registered: Feb-05
I've had my 15 XXX for over a year now. I'm now getting to the point were my sub does seem loud anymore. I am powering my XXX with a Mmats 2100.1 1550RMS. I am thinking of buy a 15 MT but dont know how much sq i will lose. What do you guys think i should do?
 

Gold Member
Username: Carguy

Post Number: 6850
Registered: Nov-04
I have RE 15" MT and it is loud. If you're concerned about SQ, then you're in the wrong area.
15XXX should be loud with SQ. RE 15" MT is loud with some SQ. It really depends on the box's volume and port frequency. I had mine around 35Hz. With 1200w - 1500w, it'll sake everything in your car, as well as trigger car alarms.
My MT is collecting dust now cause I can't use it for daily driving. If you're interested, I'd sell for a good price/trade for a SQ sub/JL amp.
 

Gold Member
Username: Mgbcs

Lincoln, Nebraska

Post Number: 1886
Registered: Dec-06
Well if more SPL is your goal, go for it. However, I don't know if you'll notice a HUGE difference on that amount of power. I don't have experience with RE except for the SX, so maybe someone else can help you better. I can tell you that the MT will get louder off more power if you upgraded amps too. JMO
 

Platinum Member
Username: Bestmankind

-apem

Post Number: 16187
Registered: Oct-05
hahaha guss. changing sh!t around again i see. come on man. stop changing things around.
 

Platinum Member
Username: Bestmankind

-apem

Post Number: 16188
Registered: Oct-05
btw how much you want for that xxx?

i'll be pissed if i don't get first dibs on it.
 

Gold Member
Username: Carguy

Post Number: 6852
Registered: Nov-04
Too late, I responded first!
MT can handle way more power than XXX so of course it'll naturally be louder. SQ will depend on the box's volume and port frequency. I've tested it myself. You'll get similar answer from RE tech support.
 

Platinum Member
Username: Bestmankind

-apem

Post Number: 16189
Registered: Oct-05
lol isaac. he only lives like 30 minutes away from me. i am sure he would rather have local pick up then ship. lol.
 

Gold Member
Username: Loc_out

Santa Ana, Ca Resonant Eng...

Post Number: 1471
Registered: Feb-05
wait i am here sking advice. I still dont know if i want to sell it or not.
 

Gold Member
Username: Loc_out

Santa Ana, Ca Resonant Eng...

Post Number: 1472
Registered: Feb-05
wait i am here asking for advice. I still dont know if i want to sell it or not.
 

Platinum Member
Username: Bestmankind

-apem

Post Number: 16192
Registered: Oct-05
o lol. sorry.

the mt does sound pretty good. but i wouldn't recomend it for the music you like.

if you can't find another xxx then look for another pair of subs.
 

Gold Member
Username: Loc_out

Santa Ana, Ca Resonant Eng...

Post Number: 1473
Registered: Feb-05
Do you think if I few it 2000 RMS I will notice I big difference?
I think kevin here might be selling his.
 

Gold Member
Username: Carguy

Post Number: 6855
Registered: Nov-04
MT is good with songs with lot of heavy bassssssss.
 

Gold Member
Username: Carguy

Post Number: 6856
Registered: Nov-04
Chad if you're that close to him, then you win. Can't beat free shipping.
I'll trade my RE 15" MT for 8" - 10" JL W7.
 

Gold Member
Username: Loc_out

Santa Ana, Ca Resonant Eng...

Post Number: 1474
Registered: Feb-05
If i do sell it I'll let you guys know. But right now i think i need more power or another XXX.
 

Platinum Member
Username: Bestmankind

-apem

Post Number: 16195
Registered: Oct-05
you need 2 15s.

you can get 2 L7's. those subs hit when playing corridos. lol.
 

Gold Member
Username: Loc_out

Santa Ana, Ca Resonant Eng...

Post Number: 1475
Registered: Feb-05
No thanks chad my all of my friends have L7's. Can't stand how they sound.

Dont forget Chad we need to install the mmats comp.
 

Platinum Member
Username: Bestmankind

-apem

Post Number: 16196
Registered: Oct-05
let me know when man. i have some time over the new years vacation.
 

Gold Member
Username: Loc_out

Santa Ana, Ca Resonant Eng...

Post Number: 1476
Registered: Feb-05
I know berney is busy moving. I was thinking of installing them for now and fiberglass later. Let me know what day works for you and i'll work with you.
 

Silver Member
Username: Cblaze

Rock island, Tenesssee Us

Post Number: 948
Registered: Sep-07
xxx=sq

mt=spl
 

Platinum Member
Username: Bestmankind

-apem

Post Number: 16197
Registered: Oct-05
cool. i have time on saturdays and sundays. i'll help you install them. it will cost you a few bottles of coronas though. lol.
 

Gold Member
Username: Carguy

Post Number: 6857
Registered: Nov-04
Chris, that's not true. MT with lots of volume space and low port frequency, will give you SQL. Don't get caught up on the hype.
 

Gold Member
Username: Loc_out

Santa Ana, Ca Resonant Eng...

Post Number: 1478
Registered: Feb-05
Dont worry Food and drinks on me. Check you PM and dont tell me you didnt receive it.
 

Gold Member
Username: 420alldaylong

Post Number: 3036
Registered: Sep-06
It's night and day when comparing MT/XXX.


The people I know that run the RE MT don't give a sh!t about SQ all they want is loud/SPL.


RE MT's are not SQL drivers.
 

Gold Member
Username: Frkkevin

Resonant Engineering..., Fort Worth... Email

Post Number: 4330
Registered: Nov-05
if you really think about it there is no such thing as an SQL driver..

it is either SQ or SPL .. almost any sub at a lower volume tuned low will sound good presenting sql.. given the proper design box and a clean signal

lowlife.. IMO.. throw more power to the XXX or get a second one..

i finally got my box in my car and to be honest the XXX did not please me in the SPL range.. everyone said it got loud and sounded great but my SX got louder.. i need to test with more power and try tuning higher.. it does hit the lows amazing though.. can't imagine two of them :-).. but 1 just is not cutting it for me right now
 

Gold Member
Username: Loc_out

Santa Ana, Ca Resonant Eng...

Post Number: 1480
Registered: Feb-05
Kevin you got pic of your box? I thought you were doing sealed? I think i am going to work on getting a second one.
 

Gold Member
Username: Frkkevin

Resonant Engineering..., Fort Worth... Email

Post Number: 4333
Registered: Nov-05
Box on the left..
Upload
Port fires through the middle section of the seat that folds down..


Upload
 

Gold Member
Username: Basssquared

Kansas

Post Number: 1705
Registered: Nov-06
my 15" RE SX just came in like ten minutes ago wow is it beautiful now to get started on the box what do you recomend again Kevin?
 

Gold Member
Username: Frkkevin

Resonant Engineering..., Fort Worth... Email

Post Number: 4334
Registered: Nov-05
3.5-4.0^3ft @ 35hz
 

Gold Member
Username: Frkkevin

Resonant Engineering..., Fort Worth... Email

Post Number: 4335
Registered: Nov-05
.. 56-64square inches of port :-)
 

Gold Member
Username: Loc_out

Santa Ana, Ca Resonant Eng...

Post Number: 1481
Registered: Feb-05
What the fu(k Ray? you jacked my Thread. Show us some picks.
 

Gold Member
Username: Carguy

Post Number: 6860
Registered: Nov-04
Joey, do you own a RE MT sub? Have you called the tech support? Have you designed a box for it? Have you tested it out?
Before you say something's something or give strong opinion, please have facts and proofs.

I have purchased RE 15" MT sub, designed a box as per RE's tech support, tuned the port to 35Hz, used 1800w RMS amp, with HO alternator, and tested it out. Played test tones as well as full music. It's NOT all bout SPL with MTs. It's all in the design. So please be more accurate next time.

Thank you.

ps. I bet you'd fail a blind test between my MT vs other SQ subs at 1200w - 1500w RMS. I'm 99.9999% sure.
 

Gold Member
Username: Frkkevin

Resonant Engineering..., Fort Worth... Email

Post Number: 4336
Registered: Nov-05
^^ thats what i was saying.. anything in a proper enclosure can sound decent no amtter what sub :-)
 

Gold Member
Username: Carguy

Post Number: 6862
Registered: Nov-04
Too many people assume just cause a sub was in the SQ section, that it'll automatically sound great and SPL will sound like $hit. Unless you take time and money to actually design and test it, you'll never know.
 

Gold Member
Username: 420alldaylong

Post Number: 3038
Registered: Sep-06
Isaac

NO I don't own a RE MT(and I never will) a couple of my friends have/had them.

Yes I called RE/US Amps tech support and they said if you want SQ get the RE XXX and if you want loud/SPL get the RE MT.


LowLife

If you want SQ stick with the RE XXX and add more power.
 

Gold Member
Username: Frkkevin

Resonant Engineering..., Fort Worth... Email

Post Number: 4341
Registered: Nov-05
we understand what they said.. but look at it this way.. the XXX can get loud (spl) and the MT can sound good (SQ) .. Lol :-)
 

Platinum Member
Username: Bestmankind

-apem

Post Number: 16201
Registered: Oct-05
he already has 2000wrms going to his xxx. you don't need to give it more. find another xxx.

joey i love the way the mt's sound. last year there was a dude with an integra. he had 2 mt 15s in a 8cu ft ported box. it sounded clean.

yes they are geared towards spl but giving them decent power in a nicely built box for music, you can make them sound good.

if you don't believe me, go to termpro forum and look up redbaron80. he is the one with the mt 15s. lol.
 

Gold Member
Username: 420alldaylong

Post Number: 3040
Registered: Sep-06
My bad I misread I thought he had a 1000 watts on the RE XXX.
 

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Username: Frkkevin

Resonant Engineering..., Fort Worth... Email

Post Number: 4342
Registered: Nov-05
i thought he said he was powering it with 1550rms
 

Platinum Member
Username: Bestmankind

-apem

Post Number: 16202
Registered: Oct-05
my bad as well. lol. kev is right.
 

Platinum Member
Username: Bestmankind

-apem

Post Number: 16203
Registered: Oct-05
also i am telling him to get 15s in there cause he has enough space and then some. he has a chevy avalanche. the box is in the bed and it is opened to the cabin.
 

Gold Member
Username: Frkkevin

Resonant Engineering..., Fort Worth... Email

Post Number: 4343
Registered: Nov-05
i agree with two.. but he would notice more out of that sub with more power.. how about 2500rms.. or two on 5000rms :-) Weeeeeeee :-)
 

Gold Member
Username: •cam•

BC Canada

Post Number: 1332
Registered: Nov-06
"i thought he said he was powering it with 1550rms"

Same. Maybe it's underrated.
 

Platinum Member
Username: Bestmankind

-apem

Post Number: 16204
Registered: Oct-05
but you don't need to push that sub with that much power. it is efficient. besides he can just get 2 with 3000wmrs and will sound awesome. re rates them at 1600wrms.
 

Gold Member
Username: Frkkevin

Resonant Engineering..., Fort Worth... Email

Post Number: 4344
Registered: Nov-05
they will still be louder on 2500rms over 1500rms even given their rms and efficiency

my SX gained .5dB going from 1200rms to 1800rms
 

Gold Member
Username: Frkkevin

Resonant Engineering..., Fort Worth... Email

Post Number: 4347
Registered: Nov-05
but on another note.. RE under-rated their subs.. except the low models

my SX didn't come alive until 1500+ rms .. a good 50%+ over their rated 1000rms
 

Platinum Member
Username: Bestmankind

-apem

Post Number: 16207
Registered: Oct-05
i know what you are saying. i wouldn't hesitate to put 2500wrms on those babies. but with the sh!tload of space he has, he would benefit more with another one. of course he would still need more power.
 

Gold Member
Username: Frkkevin

Resonant Engineering..., Fort Worth... Email

Post Number: 4348
Registered: Nov-05
no doubt.. 2 XXX 15"s on 5000rms :-)
 

Gold Member
Username: Loc_out

Santa Ana, Ca Resonant Eng...

Post Number: 1486
Registered: Feb-05
Thanks guys and yes i think i am going to fish for a second one.
 

Platinum Member
Username: Bestmankind

-apem

Post Number: 16217
Registered: Oct-05
yeah. 2 of those xxx in your ride is going to be insane. good luck.
 

Gold Member
Username: Loc_out

Santa Ana, Ca Resonant Eng...

Post Number: 1490
Registered: Feb-05
Slim i dont think i'm going to pick up the sub e-mailed you about yesterday. Fu(ker don't waht to drop the price down.
 

Silver Member
Username: Philly306

North carolina

Post Number: 669
Registered: Apr-07
damn that sucks man
 

Platinum Member
Username: Bestmankind

IM THE REAL SLIM SHADY

Post Number: 16235
Registered: Oct-05
that does suck man.

try putting more power on it then. maybe i can connect my mmats 3500 in your car to see if more power is better. it does 2800wrms at 1ohm.
 

Gold Member
Username: Loc_out

Santa Ana, Ca Resonant Eng...

Post Number: 1494
Registered: Feb-05
Good thinking slim. That will really help me out.
 

Platinum Member
Username: Bestmankind

IM THE REAL SLIM SHADY

Post Number: 16237
Registered: Oct-05
i said maybe. lol.

well ima clean up my install next week. when i do the amps will be mounted at the back of the trunk so it will be easy to take out. so i think we can do that.
 

Gold Member
Username: Loc_out

Santa Ana, Ca Resonant Eng...

Post Number: 1496
Registered: Feb-05
" i can connect my mmats 3500 in your car to see if more power is better. it does 2800wrms at 1ohm. "

I don't see a maybe there slim.
 

Gold Member
Username: Basssquared

Kansas

Post Number: 1716
Registered: Nov-06
lmfao hahahaha nice try low life
 

Platinum Member
Username: Bestmankind

IM THE REAL SLIM SHADY

Post Number: 16238
Registered: Oct-05
lol.

the game is weak.
 

Gold Member
Username: Loc_out

Santa Ana, Ca Resonant Eng...

Post Number: 1497
Registered: Feb-05
I guess your right.
 

Platinum Member
Username: Bestmankind

IM THE REAL SLIM SHADY

Post Number: 16239
Registered: Oct-05
hahahaha. its hammer time.
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