What do you all think about these amps....

 

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Username: Joebruce

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MTX ta81001

http://www.mtxaudio.com/caraudio/products/amplifiers/thunder81001.cfm

MTX te1501d

http://www.mtxaudio.com/caraudio/products/amplifiers/TE1501D.cfm

Im not sure what the differance is besides looks but both are about the same price. From what ive been reading they are underrated about 200-300 watts. Ive owned an older model MTX and i loved it,it did seem a lil underrated. But what are your opinions on these 2 amps?
 

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Username: Nd4spd18

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MTX is not what they used to be FYI. And those amps are ok but you can usually find better for what they cost.
 

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to be honest they are kind of good quality not the best but good. and i think their amps are kind of overpriced even that they put some free watts. you can always find better ones
 

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the MTX ta81001 is aroudn 350 on ebay brand new at that price you can get a hifoncis bxi2006d that will push around 1700 watts rms and around 1800-1850 if you have an ok charging system for around 350 shipped.
 

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Username: Joebruce

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You really think Hifonics would be better than MTX? I was looking at Hifonics too but i figured MTX would put out what it says,if not more and be better overall build quality.
 

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yes they will put out wat they say but give you some serious price tag the amp is usually around 100 watts underated. and aroudn that price a hifonics brutus can be doing 1700 rms and you can get it for around 350 shipped
 

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from my experience with hifoncis they are really good amps except some models dont put out wa they say but are not too overated,they are great budget amps and really great quality. those amps dont get too hot at all warm but not hot, these amps are easy to use have nice protection features, and one of the main important thing really good efficiency and really low THD ratings :-)
 

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Username: Joebruce

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Post Number: 946
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So your saying the MTX would put around 1600wrms and the Hifonics will put out about 1700wrms? And they are about the same price. But wouldnt the MTX have better build quality and last longer than the Hifonics? And for only 100 watts difference it wouldnt even be noticable.
 

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Username: 420alldaylong

Post Number: 1822
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MTX ta81001 puts out 1500x1 at 1ohm

I would take the MTX ta81001 over the Hifonics BXi2006D any day. That MTX amp has better build quality over that Hifonics amp.
 

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Username: Joebruce

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Thats what i thought Joey. So you dont think the mtx is underrated at all?
 

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watever you say joey :-)

but from my opinion twiztid you wil be better with the hifoncis if you dont want to pay an eye for something you can get cheaper and almost realibale as what you want.
 

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Username: Joebruce

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But both amps are about the same price,you said so yourself Rob. And id be getting better build quality from the mtx so why would you pick the hifonics?
 

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lwoer THD ratings great efficiency from the amps. withtheir class d design used in the higher end autotek (alot better than mtx)amps. and i been tru 5 hifonics bxi2006d and never let me down. plus you will get around 100 watts over the mtx if the mtx is 200 watts underated but it might be around 50-100 watts.

plsu they are abotu the same price but the mtx is around 50 dollars more than the hifonices
 

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Username: 420alldaylong

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Almost realiable doesn't get it.
 

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Username: Extrmndor3

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the mtx are sucker monsters if you looks closer inside them youll see that they have low capacitance banks. making them suck some corrent. the mtx is mainly a current hungry amp but is a good amp..

the hifoncis is alil more efficient. :-)
 

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Username: 420alldaylong

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I would that the MTX over the Hifonics. My opinion
 

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then mtx uses the single power supply algorithm where they use a single power supply to create all the power causing the amp work alil harder.

most companies like all hifonics brutus series and xx serier, sundown amps, orions, kickers,memphis amps use the double power supply algorithm to make the amp work more efficient witout working hard all day. :-)
 

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Username: 420alldaylong

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Take
 

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Username: Joebruce

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Hmmm now that you mentioned Autotek what do you think about the
MM2000.1

http://www.ikesound.com/product-product_id/6039

and the SS1900.1d

http://cgi.ebay.com/AUTOTEK-SS1900-1D-A-B-CLASS-1-CHANNEL-AMPLIFIER-NEW_W0QQitem Z230122075492QQihZ013QQcategoryZ64570QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
 

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Username: Extrmndor3

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and reducing stress on the amp and avoiding heat.

for example a amp that has a single 1500 rms power supply is pushing the 1500 rms of output it will work at its full potential and working harder than a amp that has double power 1000 watts power supply and each pushing 750 watts rms and both combined 1500 watts rms is working less stressed, alot cooler and most importanly more efficient since is not makin the power supplys work at their full potential :-)
 

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the autoteks are really cool amps they are almost identical as the hifonics bruts lines they share alot of the same technology except the autoteks are lil factory modded to push its rated power output..

that autotek is a sild amp really really alot better than the mtx and lil better than the hifonics but if your buying from ikesound i dont recomend it alot of people had terrible horror stories from that store some dude even received a pink amp instead of a silver amp.

the autotek is alil better than the hifoncis but first of all wat kind of subs do you have? or wat will you bee powering?
 

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yo one thing dont get the super sport amps form autotek just dont do it :-)


go with the hifonics brutus bxi2006d or the autotek mean machine 2000
 

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Username: Basssquared

Kansas

Post Number: 528
Registered: Nov-06
that makes sense i might be getting me one of those Hifonics amps here pretty soon, hey Roberto piensas que boy a notar la diferecia between pushing my L7s with 1100 watts from a Memphis amp to 1600 from a Hifonics si no para que gastar dinero
 

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u migth not notice a diference bro... the memphis 1100 if i beilve is a 1100 watts rms amp will be probably pushing around 1300 rms the hifoncis 1600 might be pushing close to 1350 watts rms. so u might not be able to tell the diference.

to get 3dbs out of power you have to double the power like these
1 watts
2
4
8
16
32
and so on. with that you can notice a 3db diference if you double the power.

if lets see you have a 1200 rms amp and later on you switch to a 1500 rms amp you will barely notice it or maybe not, and only you will notice by how clean the sound is but not loudness(only by the meter). since to notice a 3dbs difference from 1200 rms you have to have 2400 rms of power. this is called resistance.
 

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Username: Joebruce

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Rob ive got a 15" HD3 and i need about 2000wrms at 1ohm. I think ive made up my mind tho, IkeSound has some US Amps Merlin MD.3 for $388. I think it puts out 2000wrms at 1ohm. And thats a really good price and i no us amps are reliable.
 

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Username: Jblanford

Post Number: 1219
Registered: Oct-06
don't buy from ikesound...they suck
 

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Username: Basssquared

Kansas

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Registered: Nov-06
so then how come i can hear a difference from when i was using a audiobahn amp that gave 800 watts and now that im using this 1100 watt amp if i didnt even get close to doubling the power and do you think the Hifonics brutus 2000 watts at 1 ohm would be a better choice
 

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Username: Joebruce

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Thats what i heard but im going to call them and make sure everything is cool first. I wont be getting it for awhile problly tho,ive gotta sell my other amps first.
 

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Username: Extrmndor3

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well is up to you i know a guy with a btl doing 148 out of a single hifoncis bxi2006 he even got his system on the fic ar audio soudn solution forum..


but is up to you

and watch that merlin bro that merlin has 40x3 fuses 40x3=120 amps. so i dont know how the hell that amp will produce 2000 watts out of 120 amps it actually needs at least around 200 amp fuse rating to make the power if is really efficient.
 

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Username: Basssquared

Kansas

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Registered: Nov-06
What amp you trying to sell TWIZTID
 

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the audiobahn amp maybe be underated isntead of pushing the 800 watts it was pushing at around 600 watts depending on the amp

the memphis is underated and instead of pushing 1100 wtts its pushing around 1200-1300 watts rms thats almost the double power of the audiobahn and giving you the 3 db diference
 

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Username: Jblanford

Post Number: 1220
Registered: Oct-06
btw...i bet a modded 1501d would pwn a bxi20006

and you can usually find them fairly cheap
 

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Username: Jblanford

Post Number: 1221
Registered: Oct-06
bxi2006**
 

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Username: Basssquared

Kansas

Post Number: 533
Registered: Nov-06
orale good point so whats up then do you think i should go for the hifonics 2000 watt amp or just keep the memphis
 

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ramon cabron comprende muchacho i saw a l7s set up with a hifoncis bxi2006d and dude it was loud as hell.

thecaraudiobox.com i think they have some videos of a pair of l7s witha hifonics 2006d amp..

the hifonics bxi2006d works really good on l7s
 

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joe a fairly modded amp will be only be a modded motherboard that accepts higher voltage. on higher voltage the amp migth produce alot more power but some amps are limited on voltage so they mod it or remove some circuits to allow higher voltage.

if they modded someting else well id ont how they did it. because if you change a single thing on the amp you have to change the whole amp components
 

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Username: Basssquared

Kansas

Post Number: 534
Registered: Nov-06
lol perdona me guey lol no habia visto to post but yeah and thats in a big SUV hey otra pregunta que tenia era yo me acuerdo que to estabas corriendo muchos watts con tu stock alt como le haces guey
 

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como te dije ramon el hifonics trabaja bien chingon con un par de 17 son como hermanos.
 

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Username: Jblanford

Post Number: 1222
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god damn mexicans and their damn spanish

j/k
 

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Username: Extrmndor3

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umm yeah im running 2640 watts rms out of my stock 120 alt. with no voltage drops. wat i did was

0 gauge runs of both negative and positive fromt he alt to the batteri,

0 gauge batterie to chassis

and dual runs of 0 gauge wire from negative and positive battery posts to a small optima red top on the back. :-)

im planning to do another 2 runs so it can be 2 runs of negative and 2 runs of positive :-) but i dont know if i do this i might have to get another hifonics bxi2006d.
 

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wanna learn joe???
 

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Username: Jblanford

Post Number: 1223
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yeah, make another educational video haha
 

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Username: Basssquared

Kansas

Post Number: 536
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so i should get two yellow tops replace the one in the hood and then put one in the trunk and just run 0 ga everywhere and Joe its called jealousy lol jk
 

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Username: Basssquared

Kansas

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lol wait what do you mean another you mean he has an educational video lol LMAO orale guey ensenamelo
 

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Username: Joebruce

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Raymond- Im selling a MB Quart RAA2400 and a MB Quart RAA1000

Rob-Good point about the fuse thing but where did you see what amp fuse and how many it uses? I cant find that much info on it or pics.
If its only 3 40amp fuses then i got this
14.4x120=1728 and lets say its 80% efficeint 1728x.80=1382.4 How do they get 2000wrms?
 

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Username: Jblanford

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ive already learned whats in those vids...i need more
 

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http://ampguts.realmofexcursion.com/USAmps_Merlin_MD.3D/


usa amps is not the same us amp when it was 5 years ago. their build quality dropped really bad. to stay on the line they have to buy re audio since they already had a good reputation. so they could survive.
 

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Username: Basssquared

Kansas

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orale guey no me ignores jk
 

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for under the hood you dont need a yellow top... i have a 1000 amps duralast gold batterie that never gave me trouble and is tuff as a rock the batteri is about 70 witout exhange and about 60 with exchange plus they give you 1 year free of road assistance. under the hood the duralast gold is better than the yellow top under the HOOD
 

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Username: Basssquared

Kansas

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estas seguro guey cus why is the duralast gold so cheap compared to the Optima if the Gold is better well anyways me puedes dar un estimate en cuanto te costo todo las batteries y los cables
 

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my friend twiztid a single hifonics bxi2006d will have the job done.. i contacted a while back ago when i had 2 bxi2006ds and i talked to dj from audioque he told me that the hd3 will work wonders with this amp but then i decided i wanted more sq than spl so i went with a sq set up...
 

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Username: Basssquared

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otra ves guey no mammes jk
 

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i got 100 ft of 0 gauge cable for 105 shipped

duralast gold batterie 60 bucks

optima red top 1000 cracking amps 138 with taxes

and around 40 you will spend on connections like 0 gauge godl terminals etc.
 

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Username: Basssquared

Kansas

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so i should be able to run that 2000 watt hifonics con eso embes de gastar on a HO alt
 

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a single ho alt its not always the good way to go. a ho alt its alil slow and will never push full power all the way to the amp. but the ho alt is really imporntant

the alternator takes power from the engine and makes ac current then transforms teh ac current into dc current and then it let it go, first you can get the batteries and cables first if that solve your problem a ho alt its really good.

i got a 280 amps alternato from iraggi and it blew 2 weeks of using it and is till have it is like new even in the box and i have my stock alt in there and it never gave me any problems and it runs like a champ
 

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Username: Basssquared

Kansas

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runs like me hu? good to know orale lol well the next 300 i get is going to the cables and batteries and then the other 300 will go to the amp so nadamas de curiosidad i know your sh!t is a SQ system pero who's is louder yours or mine?
 

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Username: Basssquared

Kansas

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BUMP
 

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wanan bet someting on whos the loudest?
 

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Username: Basssquared

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i think your system would be louder i mean dayum you got six subs cone area ftw
 

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Username: Ton

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I love my TA81001 i get more than 400 watts extra from what it is rated at. have it for almost two years now.
 

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Username: Th3pwn3r

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Spanglish FTL.No te lo jalles!
 

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why for the lose rob???

how about silly english typing for the lose??? a man saying LOL??? LMFAO?? cmon dude leave that for the girls.

and is no te la jales in english dont jerk off
 

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Username: Nd4spd18

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Post Number: 2869
Registered: Jul-06
I'm not reading this whole thread but MTX > Hifonics.



" i think your system would be louder i mean dayum you got six subs cone area ftw "

Alan Dante is hitting 179s in Extreme with one DD Z 18". It's all in the installation.
 

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Username: Drumma

Indianapolis, IN USA

Post Number: 11
Registered: Jun-07
I was looking at getting one of these amps earlier this year, when I was searching for a new setup, but im glad i didn't get it. They are overrated, and like M.S. said they are not what they used to be. I went for a slightly used Kx1200.1, and paid $260 for it, and I absolutly love it. IMO, Kicker FTW.
 

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yo m. do you knwo wat set up does he have???

car???
power??
enclosure??
charging system???
knowledge????

and drumma i was the one saying that usamps is not the same quality la while ago :-)
 

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Username: Drumma

Indianapolis, IN USA

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oh, lol, this is what i saw:
"MTX is not what they used to be FYI. And those amps are ok but you can usually find better for what they cost." -M.S.
 

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oh fu c k i was thinking abotu us amps sorry dude... i said that usamps it was like years ago my bad i got confused :-)
 

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Username: Drumma

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Lol, np I was kinda confused.
 

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Username: Nd4spd18

Southeast PA

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Registered: Jul-06
Can't find a link to more info about his system........ that's just the news I seen on termpro.

There's also a thread on the DD forum about it: http://forum.soundpressure.com/showthread.php?t=2530
 

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yeah is a volvo ol skool they are sometimes better than the crx to get loud, it has the roof made of high streghnt heavy duty steel with tons of epoxy. and i htink he got bullet proof windows and virtually air tight inside.
 

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Username: Renegadesrun

Lafayette, IN US

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I found a pic in my finals set from last year. Im pretty sure this is it.

Upload
 

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Username: Jtown

Post Number: 129
Registered: Mar-07
I was just wondering, what the better buy was, Atomic or Hifonics?

I need about 800 watts.


Anyone, anyone?
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