Bronze Member Username: Nothingis2loudTaylorville, Illinois United states Post Number: 31 Registered: Dec-06 | im in a jam which should i go with. all opinions count. or better ideas. going in a van. already have 4 13's. lookin for sql |
Gold Member Username: Logan__tilleRE XXXYeah its 15 ... Post Number: 3565 Registered: Feb-06 | DD FTMFW |
Silver Member Username: ShortysetniesRock Vegas, NC US Post Number: 784 Registered: Mar-06 | DD |
Silver Member Username: OglejustRE SX, USA, Il Post Number: 529 Registered: Aug-06 | dd |
Silver Member Username: ShortysetniesRock Vegas, NC US Post Number: 786 Registered: Mar-06 | i wish that was the jam I was in now... life would be so much better. |
Silver Member Username: 04redmach1Columbus, GA USA Post Number: 264 Registered: Mar-06 | Give me an email, I may can help you with DD lowhz01@yahoo.com Kevin PS: If you want another sub in the running, try 12 MAG 15's !!!! |
Gold Member Username: RedlinerWilmington, Ma Post Number: 3432 Registered: Jun-05 | hahahahahahaha are u serious u cant compare dd subs to jl subs please |
Silver Member Username: Sinful_systems70Post Number: 224 Registered: Nov-06 | One is SQ and the other is a SQL sub. |
Platinum Member Username: Chaunb3400Huntsville, Alabama U.S. Post Number: 10800 Registered: Jul-05 | 12 Mags would be nice...there are so many diffrent options u could do...and it seems like you have almost no budget....so what ever u do just make sure ur happy!!! |
Gold Member Username: J_baby15Kentucky Post Number: 1053 Registered: Feb-06 | y not get some DD9918z and some DD Z2s to power em.... |
Gold Member Username: AdddisorderWest palm, Florida Post Number: 2463 Registered: Jan-06 | jordan they only make a 10 with the Z motor. but DD definatly |
Gold Member Username: DrsmithMontana USA Post Number: 2195 Registered: Nov-04 | mat they make them in all sizes including 18s i have seen pics and they have a European price list for them on Soundpressure |
Silver Member Username: LoudonPost Number: 694 Registered: Jun-04 | i wanna see pics of this van |
Gold Member Username: Tdeaton1021Near Tampa, Florida USA Post Number: 3472 Registered: Sep-04 | wow.... that is all lol |
Silver Member Username: Trey4sportsPost Number: 150 Registered: Sep-06 | uhm please dont execute me for this as i have never heard a DD sub, but W7's sound damnnn good. and 12 of em is plenty SPL for sumone like me. (idk your preferences) but id be tempted to buy JL with an endless budget |
Gold Member Username: AdddisorderWest palm, Florida Post Number: 2474 Registered: Jan-06 | oh dok, i never knew that. i go on the soundpressure forum alot to and have never seen them mentiond. only the 10s...cool though and trey DD>JL anyday and every day |
Bronze Member Username: Nothingis2loudTaylorville, Illinois United states Post Number: 42 Registered: Dec-06 | The W7 embodies JL Audio's commitment to pushing the envelope of speaker technology, with six patented technologies and a completely unique set of component parts. Each W7 model has been meticulously engineered to reproduce sub-bass with extreme fidelity at any volume level |
Gold Member Username: DrivingrecklessDD 9515f, USA Post Number: 2581 Registered: Apr-06 | yea and DD blows jl outta the water in all aspects just b/c JL has a nice long paragraph on thier sub about patented technology doesnt mean jack sure dont get me wrong the jl 1000/1 is a killer amp being able to put out 1000 watts as low as 10V but its not worth it wen u can buy an even bigger am for the price also my personal expierence W7 are very overrated ur just buying a brand thts why its over priced i would take treo atomic dd fi AA over JL anyday and im sure everyone or most feel tht way on here jl=$$=not worth it dd=$= lil expensive but worth it=SPL |
Bronze Member Username: Nothingis2loudTaylorville, Illinois United states Post Number: 43 Registered: Dec-06 | and because it moves that air so much it not only requires a one inch baffle made of only mdf but also 12 1 1/2 inch screws or it will blow out of the box. i dont see the other subs twith this feature.most others only have eight, treo, dd, atomic, etc. and dont require a larger baffle. they also require that you build a huge box which some dont have room for as the jl makes great use of a small box. the port is tuned loweralso, all those subs have an extremely high frequency level because they cant get loud at the low frequencies as good as they can with the high. |
Bronze Member Username: Nothingis2loudTaylorville, Illinois United states Post Number: 44 Registered: Dec-06 | but if you wanted to swich subs the jl amp puts out that wattage at a variety of voltages a and ohm loads. 10.5v-15.5v also 1.5ohm-4ohm it will always produce the watts as other amps need specific volts and ohms to produce what they claim |
Gold Member Username: AdddisorderWest palm, Florida Post Number: 2477 Registered: Jan-06 | if you like the w7 so much then get one. they arnt bad but they definatly arnt DD. and an amp like the 1000\1 with a regualted power supply is not a good thing when doing comps generally because you will not really see the bennift of having a good chargning system |
Bronze Member Username: Nothingis2loudTaylorville, Illinois United states Post Number: 46 Registered: Dec-06 | i have 4 of them and i like the sql and they are really good subs but al ot of ppl dog on them cause they just dont know |
Gold Member Username: DrivingrecklessDD 9515f, USA Post Number: 2585 Registered: Apr-06 | "and because it moves that air so much it not only requires a one inch baffle made of only mdf but also 12 1 1/2 inch screws or it will blow out of the box" you really are clueless u think JL is soooooo effiecient my god ur in a dream land my friend the efficiency of ur 13W7 is 86.7db which is pathetic in comparison to many subs the DD 9515 has an efficiency of 93dbs.. and let me laugh out loud one more time AHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA 1" thick baffle damn u must have researched only JL "itll blow the box apart" hahahah even more laughs if it blows the box appart it is poorly constructed u think tht only jl requires a 1" baffle? thts the impression im gettin the treo ssx and the dd 9500 can handle way more power then the W7 and for these extreme applications ppl have to resin the inside and also add double layer of MDF alllll around not just on the baffle also PPL dog the W7 no im not dogging it im tryin to show u thier not worth i dont care if u do have the money tht sub is great yea but SEVERLY over priced... do us a favor research both side b4 u make stupid posts about subs u dont no about also just b/c u have the sub doesnt mean sh*t idk did u do ur whole installation?? did u build ur box??? or sumone else built it for u?? do u no even how to install a system correctly??? if so good job if not read this site www.BCAE1.com or www.wickedcases.com this is where everyone started either way very informative sites please research idk if this comes off insulting or not i really dont care...either way u needto read |
Bronze Member Username: Nothingis2loudTaylorville, Illinois United states Post Number: 48 Registered: Dec-06 | efficiency has nothing to do with the subs output ability. * Sensitivity is not an accurate method of determing a subwoofer's output capability and should not be used for comparison* this is a quote below the ssx series treo sub |
Gold Member Username: DrsmithMontana USA Post Number: 2201 Registered: Nov-04 | i think w7s blow nuts they arent worth what you pay for them and imo they do not sound good they do get sorta loud though |
Gold Member Username: DrivingrecklessDD 9515f, USA Post Number: 2591 Registered: Apr-06 | not an accurate but sure as hell paints a picture |
Silver Member Username: Denali_on_22sSSX, Tenneki US of A Post Number: 748 Registered: Feb-06 | Sounds like you already have your mind made up, so just buy more W7s. I personally don't believe you have a W7 or are considering DDs with the way you copy and paste your knowledge. Research some stuff that's not direct advertising from teh company trying to sell you something. I could be wrong, but I think their opinion is a little biased. |
Gold Member Username: B101DD, RE, FI, TREO, KICKERUSA Post Number: 4087 Registered: Sep-05 | this is funny read the topic 10 9918s PORTED vs 12 13w7s sealed LMAO 4 9918s ported will STOMP on 12 13W7s sealed... just from my knowledge! there is nothing to compare! |
Gold Member Username: B101DD, RE, FI, TREO, KICKERUSA Post Number: 4089 Registered: Sep-05 | this is funny read the topic 10 9918s PORTED vs 12 13w7s sealed LMAO 4 9918s ported will STOMP on 12 13W7s sealed... just from my knowledge! there is nothing to compare! |
Gold Member Username: James1115Use a simple... Post Number: 8347 Registered: Dec-04 | agreed B lol |
Gold Member Username: James1115Use a simple... Post Number: 8348 Registered: Dec-04 | 4 18's would have about the same surface area as the 12 jl's lol and ported over sealed there would be no comparison and that is to only 4 dd's over 12 jl's. The thing is you can give the 4 dd's the same power you can give the 12 jl's. DD would stomp on them. I am not downing JL I like their products but more their w6's but the w7's do get loud ofr the 1000 watts they are capable of handling. |
Platinum Member Username: Rovin1 12 Premier... Post Number: 10192 Registered: Jul-05 | i would like 2 know how is he gonna finance this project... |
Gold Member Username: B101DD, RE, FI, TREO, KICKERUSA Post Number: 4091 Registered: Sep-05 | me also would like to know how he is financing, cause he needs something like a competitor / dealer deal for that sh!t!!! we had 12 12s in our shop, van, everyone seen it tought it was loud.. LMAO cause on the meter it did 51 on music! Not bad, but not loud either... 4 18s setup can easily do 50s playing music... Meade for example hits a 153 on music!! |
Silver Member Username: Rustysurfer916Oviedo, FL Post Number: 314 Registered: Mar-06 | dude you get that many subs your not lookin for sound quality. thats strictly competetion. how bout throwin a couple W7's and a couple amps my way man. |
Gold Member Username: BestmankindFi AudioBTL Post Number: 8302 Registered: Oct-05 | 12 jl 13w7 = 624lbs (just the subs alone without the box) box = 200lbs. i say you will need around 6 batteries. around 70lbs each battery (you would get some good batteries) so it would total around 400lbs. amps = 200lbs. you are looking at roughly 1400-1500lbs extra in your car. that thing is going to be heavy. i just felt like calculating the weight. |
Gold Member Username: BestmankindFi AudioBTL Post Number: 8304 Registered: Oct-05 | bump |
Gold Member Username: Matt12490The biggity biggity BAY, California USA Post Number: 1472 Registered: May-05 | i'd think a lot more than 6 batteries would be needed |
Gold Member Username: Matt12490The biggity biggity BAY, California USA Post Number: 1473 Registered: May-05 | i also wanna see pictures of this van. 10 18's in there.. ported?!? |
Gold Member Username: DrsmithMontana USA Post Number: 2240 Registered: Nov-04 | yeah i think this guy is just blowin smoke lol |
Gold Member Username: James1115Use a simple... Post Number: 8409 Registered: Dec-04 | me to |
Gold Member Username: J_baby15Kentucky Post Number: 1071 Registered: Feb-06 | i think hes been blowin more than smoke. honestly, u cant compare w7s to 9918s. They are far from the same category. Mat Dope check out this link and go to teh bottom. It has the Z series 18 w/ the new red cone. Looks BadAss http://www.soundpressure.com/products3.asp?R=DD1&L=1 |
Gold Member Username: DrsmithMontana USA Post Number: 2261 Registered: Nov-04 | that is a cool pic, i dont think this guy realizes at all what he would be getting into with these subs and the amps to push them, all the wires and alts and batts |
Gold Member Username: James1115Use a simple... Post Number: 8415 Registered: Dec-04 | exactly, I love how some high rollin newbie's come on here and say they have no budget untill a budgetless system is provided they run back in their hole like a scared little turtle! |
Gold Member Username: J_baby15Kentucky Post Number: 1075 Registered: Feb-06 | Well if he's budgetless get 4 9918z quad 1ohm, 16 DDZ2s, go ahead an replace all ur windows. Add 2-3 300a alts, a sh!tload of kinetik batteries, and then figure in all the wires. Then enter some competitions. |
Gold Member Username: AdddisorderWest palm, Florida Post Number: 2510 Registered: Jan-06 | damn jordan the 99z18 is awesome. yeah iv seen the red kevlar befor but only on a 10z...but those are some extream subs. |
Gold Member Username: J_baby15Kentucky Post Number: 1078 Registered: Feb-06 | I kno man. Those look insane. I just wanna attempt to hold one. lol. Check out the amp part and look at the size of the Z2. Its a big amp. I never realized how big they were. |
Silver Member Username: Impala63ragPost Number: 275 Registered: Sep-06 | those new dd9918 Z series subs look insane!!! I want one!! |
Gold Member Username: DrivingrecklessDD 9515f, USA Post Number: 2606 Registered: Apr-06 | wtf^^^^ is tht ur sig? |
Bronze Member Username: Nveselinovic16vPost Number: 72 Registered: Mar-05 | as he said 99z18 x 4 Z2 @ 18v x 8 and replace your ears and eyes you eyes WILL drop out of your SKULL!!! |