Sub advice for new install
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Bronze Member Username: The_image_dynamicSan Diego Post Number: 25 Registered: Dec-06 | I bought a 2001 Pathinder LE a few months ago and I am now getting the audio system together. So far I have a Premier DEH-780MP, 32 ft² of eDead v1SE2 for my doors, and the Diamond Audio s600s comps. I am going to power the DA's with an Elemental Nine.2X. I am thinking that this should be a pretty decent front stage for what I am trying to do. My "problem" lies in the subwoofer. I add quotes because I love this sh!t and it is alot of fun researching and reading about this stuff. I go way back to the old-school, to dual JBL D140's in a van ran off a two foot Zapco monoblock. For awhile there I was dead-set on getting the IDMAX12 for this new rig. I should mention that I want to go pretty much SQ but at times SQL to show off to friends. Let's not kid ourselves now, most everyone here loves to show off their stuff to others -- it would be no fun if you had nobody to share it with. Right? Polo told me that lil' rob whacks his 3" pecker by himself while cranking Late Nite Tip on his rig with true joy, but I digress... I should mention that whatever sub I get will probably be powered by a Nine.1 and be placed in a custom 1 ¼" MDF (all sides) enclosure. I love everything about Elemental Designs, from the personal service (from the owner nonetheless), to the great products at unbelievable prices. Their whole approach strikes me as refreshing. And the forum discount + the factory direct approach makes it even more of a slam-dunk. I appreciate genuine people and products, and I will faithfully buy from eD for many years to come. Ben and Chris rock. But now I find myself reading this forum (and others) again and reconsidering all of the choices I had gone through getting to this point. You all have to agree that nowadays the decisions can be overwhelming, and there are at least a dozen subs that could suit me just fine. Here is my list I have whittled down. Keep in mind I am flexible on the amp if it is underpowered for some of these. I just want to have a single subwoofer so I can still have room for my drums and equipment, and have the option of taking it out completely without slipping a disc. I could go anywhere from a 1.25 sealed to a 3.0 vented I am guessing. Cost isn't really an issue, but I would like to keep it under $450 or so for the driver. The cab will cost me around 40 bucks, if I pay him at all, because I was the one who started the guy who builds them, in his business. Image Dynamics IDMAX 12 D2 V3 TC Sounds 15" TC-3000 +CP (factory is literally 4 miles from my door) Treo SSX 12 or 15 Fi Q 12 or 15 Elemental Designs 16Ov.2 Massive CW 12 Stage2 RE SX 12 or 15 I know I left out an bunch of potential subs. Any comments or disses on my front stage or anything else will be appreciated, and especially if anyone has experience with this particular truck. Sorry for the long-winded approach, but I am a mod at another forum and I know how freakin' frustrating incomplete questions can be. Thanks guys. |
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Silver Member Username: JohnfiacIL USA Post Number: 811 Registered: Mar-06 | LMAO Polo and Lil Rob in the same line.. i havnt heard those personally but i hear more things about treo ssx being nice for both |
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Silver Member Username: Andrew571Stillwater/Edmond, Oklahoma USA Post Number: 468 Registered: Oct-05 | 15" Q (2ohm) in a 3 cube ported box @ 30hz having a nine.1 being thrown @ it just for you cuz you love ED so much! :D p.s. dont forget electrical upgrades |
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Gold Member Username: Extrmndor3Im pushing i... And pushing ... Post Number: 2973 Registered: Feb-06 | your a f@g but ill get the tc sounds for sql   |
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Silver Member Username: Trey4sportsPost Number: 168 Registered: Sep-06 | if you like pure SQ adleast audition a W6v2, i know this whole forum hates JL but i like the way both the W6 and W7 sound |
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Gold Member Username: BestmankindFi AudioBTL Post Number: 8218 Registered: Oct-05 | who hates the w6v2's? they are the best sq sub imo. fi Q would be my recomendation. |
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Silver Member Username: Denali_on_22sSSX, Tenneki US of A Post Number: 737 Registered: Feb-06 | Maybe a Mag could be thrown in there too. |
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Gold Member Username: Safe_crackerChicago, IL US Post Number: 2247 Registered: Jan-06 | BTW, I never said that about LilRob, only god knows if he has a 3" lil pecker, usually reserved for Asians not mexicans, lol. 3 cubes is kinda small for a 15 especially ported. TC's are great subs nice quality BUT usually recommended for sealed enclosures because of there extremely high BL but doesn't mean they are not loud even sealed. If the manufacture is that close I would go that route, I know I would... Polo. |
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Gold Member Username: BestmankindFi AudioBTL Post Number: 8225 Registered: Oct-05 | hey polo thats 3 and a half inches. don't get that wrong again. |
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Gold Member Username: BestmankindFi AudioBTL Post Number: 8227 Registered: Oct-05 | for us aaians that is. |
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Silver Member Username: TanmanfoshoC Bang, Hardcore Iowa USA Post Number: 228 Registered: Nov-06 | Treo SSX. treo's haev great SPL and still reati tnhier SQ so that'd ne SQL. treo ftmfw |
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Bronze Member Username: The_image_dynamicSan Diego Post Number: 28 Registered: Dec-06 |  Sorry Rob and Polo, I was just playin'. Thanks for everyone's input. I am surprised nobody mentioned the IDMAX, I have heard them in two installs and they are awesome, especially from an SQ standpoint. And they can hit too. At this point I think I am going to go with a Q15. Even though I live so close to TC Sounds and I could go over there and pick one up, I just can't seem to get past the accordian surround and the problems they have been having with the cone breakage. The reason (I think) that it has such a high force factor (bl) like Polo said, is because that cone is frickin' heavy for it's size and they also can keep a fairly low Fs. Basically all the CP option offers is a much lighter (50 grams) black aluminum cone that offers better sensitivity but less excursion. 2.5" p2p is still nothing to sneeze at though. But all in all, I just like the Fi better. And then the fact that the TC is more expensive and currently out of stock, the Treo SSX is damn hard to find, and Fi throws in free shipping, Q15 FTMFW! Now let's say I get the dual 2 Q and throw it in a 3.1 ft² net vented box. Is the Nine.1 going to be enough for this thing? I have seen them bench at 1400+. Doesn't seem to me too many of you are too high on eD, at least in this thread. I got the impression in alot of other threads that they and Ben were very well thought of here. And if that amp won't cut it, I have a bunch in mind but I would like to hear what you guys think. Thanks again and Merry Christmas to all. |
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Gold Member Username: BernymacCambodian Post Number: 1436 Registered: Sep-04 | LMAO CHAD, speak for yourself. Don't forget I'm Asian also mofo. |
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Gold Member Username: CenusHicksville, Ohio Post Number: 2701 Registered: Jan-05 | the idmax is an amazing sq sub i don't know why no1 ever mentions it any more, the mag, q, w6v2, would all make great sql subs, i'd go with the idmax, but its up to you. |
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Bronze Member Username: The_image_dynamicSan Diego Post Number: 30 Registered: Dec-06 | The main factor in not getting the IDMAX is the $ to performance ratio compared to the others. I could get two Q15's shipped for about a hundred more than the just one ID12. I normally wouldn't care but I am strapped right now with a dozen things. The Fi Q did real well in bigbassman's continuing 12" shootout. Everyone probably knows this already but if you're wondering, they only can test the subs that people like us and companies send to them. That's why so far there are alot of very good subs yet to be tested. But there were some heavy hitters in there, and the Fi held it's own. I think the notion of some people that the Fi doesn't go very low is out the window now too. Note that it took the crown at 35 and 40hz and also hit a very respectable 128.4 @ 25hz. http://forum.realmofexcursion.com/showthread.php?t=16182 http://forum.realmofexcursion.com/showthread.php?t=16177 |
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Platinum Member Username: Rovin1 12 Premier... Post Number: 10191 Registered: Jul-05 | ppl dont mention idmax anymore because they stopped making them a while now since a new model is in the works -ur very lucky if u can get 1 new ... |
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Silver Member Username: Th3pwn3rChicago, Illinois U.S.A Post Number: 838 Registered: Jul-06 | God you guys are always obsessing over p3nis size...why don't you ladies just have a dikk measurement contest and end it lol. |
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Gold Member Username: 54danny54KY More Wang Th... Post Number: 3076 Registered: Nov-04 | throw the ascendant audio havoc in there brad www.ascendantaudio.com |
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