This is news from Mr V. this morn. VS does have full Maprom. They will prolly help Europe next week with a cardless solution because it doesn't affect their market here. Many have made offers, up to $400k for the solution and were turned down. Expect an ECM targetting plastic as soon as tomorrow, but it is believed the VS cardless fix will be up awhile. if they change MAP routines, Mr.V says it will be short downtime this time as they have everything now.VS introducing new models still, Ultra is scheduled for October, and a PVR file should come out late tonight or early tomorrow morn. HD before Xmas as well. PVR is here (1000 pieces) and will retail for around $399 without hardrive, $499 with. Look for their website to be updated soon.