Archive through November 15, 2004
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| I have a Sony mini dv trv80. I have tried to transfer movies to my computer to edit then make DVD's from. The problem is that whatever software I use, ie: Sony's supplied Pixlar software, Unlead Studio, whatever quality setting, ie: Higest no compression, I don't get good quality movies. When I play the movies thru the camera to the TV, looks good, but when I play a captured and converted version, on TV or computer, dosen't look as good. How can I get High Quality movies from my Mini DV camera to my DVD player??? Any help will be greatly appreciated. All times are ET (US) |
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Derek | DVD has higher color resolution than DV and your focus may not always be exactly right. In addition, unless you are a pro your lighting wont be as good. Do you use auto white balance? That's not always optimal either. But you say it looks fine on TV. When you transfer movies, I am assuming you are using firewire. I have done some transfer from a friend's Canon ZR40. It wasn't spectacular looking but it was sharper than any standard TV could reproduce. Make sure your software doesn't convert your video while it is capturing. You want the data to be raw DV format. I have used Ulead 5 and 6 and Windows Movie Maker II (free) and they worked fine, though they both have the option of capturing and converting in one step. Once you are done with the editing (up to 15GB/h), export the finished product to MPEG-II 720x480. Another option is to use Microsoft's Media Encoder 9. It does not encode in real time (more like 1/3 speed) and you can't play the files in a standard DVD player but the picture quality is very good and the files are almost as small as DiVX. Hope this helps. |
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| Thanks for the input. I'm trying very hard to figure this out and any help is greatly appreciated. I seems I've got everything right as far as capturing uncompressed, converting with the correct compression , frame size ect. The only thing I'm unsure of is...I'm using USB to get into the computer. It appeares to be running thru a Sony Driver then into Unlead Studio 7. My computer has an IEEE 1394 connection and my camera has a DV out. All of the instructions from Sony say to use USB. Can and should I be using the 1394 connection? Could this be the problem? I'm not even sure what exactly my problem is with the movies. They just appear to be poor quality. The objects have like a distorted halo around them but not really pixelising. Is this what I think they call artifacts? I've also seen something somewhere talking about different types of monitors ie computer vs TV and that one will be better with something like progressive sreen refresh vs maybe active?? I'd love some help with this, it's really dissapointing. I don't understand why this is soo complicated, one of my friends at work took my camera, hooked it up to one of our Mac's and made me a beautiful DVD in no time with no hassels. Thanks to anyone and everyone who would take the time to try and help me. |
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Derek | You definately should NOT be using USB. You also mentioned that you chose the resolution. That's a bad sign. When you use 1394 and import the Video as DV you wont be given any options. The raw data just comes across as the Mac did. |
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| Thanks Derek, I'll get a 1394 connection and give it a try. |
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Anonymous | Can you or anyone post the procedures to convert mini dv onto the DVD? If you have already created the high quality DVD, please share the necessary equipment and software used? Thanks. |
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Derek | See http://www.pinnaclesys.com/ListProducts.asp?langue_id=7 |
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Kristen | I'm trying to put my mini dv's onto cd so I can play them on a DVD. I'm using windows movie maker. The problem is my dvd player still won;t play the cdr- which it should. I tried to convert my *.avi file to mpg and vcd but neither work...any suggestions? Thanks! |
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| I suffer the same problem. The pictures on TV coming from the camera are perfect. Importing the movie via Firewire onto the computer gives artefacts and stairs on the edges. I use Movie maker since Ulead capture and Virtual dub say: no driver or driver in use already!? What driver do I need and what for? The camera is recogniced by Win XP and works fine (more or less) with Movie maker. The file size is 14Gb for a 60min tape and seems correct. Any useful hints are welcomed. Ian |
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| I am using SONY-DCR-TRV22E. The Video taken during one of my recent vacations have been great both indoors & outdoors. watching the DV thru camera directly connected to TV is crystal clear and smooth. But my problem is that when I am making a VCD (through PC using USB and Pixela s/w) and playing it thru player the picture quality is horrible as well as there are breaks and jerks in between. Please help me as my whole purpose is getting defeated -- I need "REMEDIES" from people who have already done it successfully. |
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Derek | Look at the top of this thread. |
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| people, USB connections on todays mini dv cams are there for transporting "Still images" a.k.a your digital photo's and mpeg4 movies from the camera to the computer. mpeg4 is a very high compresion and is great for making short clips to be emailed to friends due to there small file size. However mpeg4 does not have the resolution you would expect to watch from your camera on your tv or to edit with. For that you need to use your raw DV footage (then convert to mpeg2: DVD quality or mpeg1:vcd quality) which to my knowledge will only get off the camera down a 1394 (firewire) cable. |
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| I have a Sony Minid DV Digital Handycam. It uses USB to transfer the recorded images to my PC but when i plug the USB in the PC doesn't see the cam. Any idea's on how to prevent this from happening? |
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Anonymous | i tried to burn dvd from my camcorder. which file is the best quality? avi, mpeg2, dvd-vcd. the picture quality is somehow not as good. what is the reason. what can i do? |
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| hi i have the same problem as Sanjiv. But I am not sure about fire wire cable. Please let me know what is this. where can i find it and does an ordinary desk top pc supports a slot for fire wire cable. thanx |
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Peter | About transferring DV movie to DVD without losing quality: there is no such thing. The DVD uses MPEG2 format which is at least 4 times more compressed than the AVI format used by the DV camcorder. Probably professional $2-3k software and a network of computers working all night would do a good job but anything that you can try at home degrades the quality. I tried "double pass" software, it takes 40 minutes to encode an 1 minute clip, and the results are not great. Well, I am watching my home videos on a 55" HD-ready TV set. The best solution seems to record the edited movie back on the tape. Does anybody know about a decent $200-300 DV player (that can only play DV tapes, not a camcorder)? |
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New member Username: AliPost Number: 1 Registered: 12-2003 | Hi I have a sony TRV 22 E handy cam. My problem is that when I connect my camera through a fire wire my computer having XP does not recognise the camera. It tells me that the driver data is invalid.What should I do? |
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bermudezjosee Unregistered guest | Hi I bought a digital camera and hope to make nice home DVD's. I was able to transfer the DV-AVI file through the FireWire 1394 successfully but when I create DVD's using ArcSoft 2 the quality of the video was not really good. I thought maybe the encoding was poor so I downloaded a 30-day tral of TEMPEnc encoder ( A very good encoder I heard). I encoded my file. The MPEG2 file played nice in the conputer but again when I created the DVD using Arcsoft2 the quality was not the same. Colors were darker. A lot of pixelixation. I know for sure Arcsoft 2 is not encoding the mpeg2 file again since the trasncoding step is skipped (it takes long time when is encoding). However the qulity is not good in the DVD. Could the authoring tool be messing things up. Again if the MPEG2 file would look in the TV as it looks in my PC it good be great but is not. What I am doing wrong. How could improve the video quality. I used to have an analog video camera and I have not seen any improvement in video quality with my digital one. I have a Panasonic PV-DV953 3CCD. I am really frustrated. If anybody has any suggestion I would really appreciate it Thanks. |
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Unregistered guest | Some Advise for all. I am an independent film maker and have been making digital movies. I put them on DVD with great quality. Here is what I use and do. I uses Sony DCR-TRV900 3ccd mini dv camera. I then capture with firewire through Pinnacle DV 500plus. Then edit in Adobe Premeire. I then process it in their DVD setting. Once complete I then use Dazzle DVD Complete. You can add menus,special feature, or just put the video on disc. Then record to DVD. I went through a lot of trial and error to finally find this group of products that gave me the results I wanted. They all work great for me and it is important my movies look professional.I always get high quality DVD's that play very well on my DVD player. Older players might not play the DVD-R's but I had a five year old RCA play it. Most important is to never change settings to lower quality and I find that Panasonic mini Dv tapes have better image quality. Hope this helps. It was complicated for me to learn it all but it can be done and you do get great quality professional results. Good luck all! |
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Unregistered guest | hi, i need to know what kind of plug I would need to hook my video camera to my computer |
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Unregistered guest | Hi I wish to save a video clip as a jpeg or tiff file how do I go about it |
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Unregistered guest | Hello.I need help.I have IEEE 1394 PCI HOST ADAPTER but I don't have drivers for it.If someone knows something please help me or write me on my e-mail. |
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New member Username: LucianbPost Number: 1 Registered: 01-2004 | Hello I want to buy a handycam, and I decided to buy a Sony DCR-HC 85. Can anyone tell me if this it's a good choise, or can you give an alternative at the same price? Thanks. |
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Unregistered guest | Let me share something with all you guys about my experience creating home video in DVD. I am kind of new on this and I was very excited to create my DVD's when I bought my Panasonic camera 3-CCD. I am very knowledagable about computers but a newbie on video editing and dvd creation. Anyways, I have been able to edit, encode and author my first DVD, but the quality of my final result on my DVD player was not really good. So I kept on trying different MPEG2 encoders (TMPENgc etc..) and settings with no noticable improvement. One weird thing though, from the beginning my resulting MPEG2 file looked very good on my computer using microsoft media player but not on the DVD when played on my DVD player. Then I thought of somethig. I connected my computer video card to My TV instead of my monitor and I played the home DVD on my computer (not the software but the DVD drive using Media Center for XP), The video was really great, it was not dark and I was not finding blocky spots, niether picture noise. It really surprised me that the same DVD played in My computer and my DVD player looked so different on the same TV (my DVD player and my PC video cards are connecting with my TV via a a good S-Video output and my Panasonic DVD player is fairly new). Now I am wondering, is my DVD player having problems? other movie DVD's play very well. I have been going crazy for nothing encoding and reecoding my video. Can somebody give me an explanation for these findings. I will try to play this DVD on my friends DVD players to see the results. But I can not understand why the compter DVD drive plays this DVD so well and not my DVD player. |
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Anonymous | I am using easy CD DVD Creator 6 to create DVD's from a MiniDV. I run the camcorder on LP which creates a movie that is about 1 1/2 hours long. This results in a movie that is about 4.3 gigs. When I try to create a DVD, I am told that I don't have enough space to fit the movie on to a 4.7gig disk. Is there anyway to compress the mini DV movie before I try to burn it onto a DVD? |
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jesse kane Unregistered guest | my question may be slightly off topic, I am trying to get old footage from a Video8 cam so that i can edit it.. I have a mini DV cam and an iMac to work with (plus the old vidoe8 cam) I have been looking into media converters and have found a few, I was wondering if anyone had a suggestion as to the best/cheapest one. thanks |
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Anonymous | I am trying to capture video from my mini dv camcorder (ZR 70) by RCA cables into my computer. I was able to capture it except the sound. The program I am using is the window movie maker. I don't know what could be the problem because i've tried so many ways already. My pc is HP media center which has the RCA jacks ready. I used to connect with firewire and it worked but i don't know why it would not work with the RCA cables. Is it the settings or the programs or the cable? |
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Anonymous | wal-mart saves the day. I have a a sony trv-22, and was very frustrated like the rest of you, when i tried to convert mini-dv tapes to dvd.I lost all the great quality of the mini-dv tape. I read everyones questions and responses, went to wal-mart to buy a fire wire cable, and ended up finding an external, hp-dvd burner for $225. It showed rite on the box how to hook up your camcorder to the burner, and then your burner to the computer for fast easy conversions to dvd+r. I did not think it would work this well. I am new to all of this, and was really let down by pixellas software conversion. This device totaly makes up for it. And was worth every penny. I was very easy to set up, and use. there is very little to no loss of quality in the conversion process. The dvd's look great. BONUS: i.e. there is an S-video hookup, and the same red,whit and yellow analog hook up as on a t.v. I have taken some really old vhs home tapes and converted them to crv (CD-R) to play on dvd player and it works great. you can hook up any device that would hook up to your t.v., to the hp-burner, and make dvd or cd-r videos. (very usfull for those of use with older camcorders: hi-8 and vhs) i would recomened this product to anyone who wants fast simple mini-dv,to dvd conversion.it comes with editing software, and burning sofware. I have a P4,2.2ghz,system with 1gig ram.hope this helps. and thanks for everyone elses help. |
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Gus Unregistered guest | I'm having problems getting my video from the computer back onto the tape in the camera. I'm using Windows Moviemaker2 and a Sony DCR-TRV22E and a firewire cable. The camera starts recording but no pictures are transferred. When the progress bar reaches 100% on the computer the tape just keeps going and doesn't stop till the end. Microsoft say it's the camera, Sony say it's the software. HELP! Does anyone have any good ideas. |
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Unregistered guest | How to save video clip as a avi file coming through USB camera using Java Media Framework. Please send code if possible. Thank you. |
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Brad Sanger Unregistered guest | I have a Sony DCR-TRV22 Digtal Video Camera. I like Movie Maker 2, and it downloads normally with the USB connection to my computer. I put in a firewire today and the video input is scrambled for Movie Maker 2. Video looks OK with other editing software I have. Everything's working except Movie Maker 2 video. Am I missing something? I'd be real grateful for any advice. |
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Unregistered guest | I have sony dcr-trv22e miniDV.My problem is i can't hear any sound from my computer playing the recorded tape (using software called Image Mixer 1.5 for Sony) in camera in USB Streaming mode using USB cable.Is this a limitation on using USB cable?..only can see movies but no sound???.....Derek,anyone...i hope u all can help me |
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Skye Unregistered guest | Does anyone have an external burner that works off a laptop with only a miniDV output? I have an Inspiron 8200 laptop that only has a miniDV output. The external burner that I have now (LaCIE) does not seem to work with the miniDV to firewire connection. Thanks! |
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jjohn Unregistered guest | I converted DV video from TRV22E to AVI using firewire and later transfred the same to VCD. The VCD quality is not anywhere near the playback quality from Camcorder. The normal movie VCD's which we buy form store has much better quality, then why is this converted video not as good. Can any one help? |
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Silver Member Username: Project6Post Number: 449 Registered: Dec-03 | because the vcd format is using a lot of compression from an already compressed format. |
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New member Username: MoonflowerPost Number: 1 Registered: Apr-04 | Please, help two days I am trying to record from video-recorder to DV kasset with the help of Camera TRV22E, but I can't. well, when I edit movis drom DV , i use firewire, premiere as software. everything works!!! BUT now I am using this A/V cable and S cable to tape from VHS kassete to DV one, then I can't see the picture, just sound. I read all instructions and work using them ...but no way, it is urgent, |
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Unregistered guest | I have Panasonic PV-DV202D-K which has USB as well as IEEE (iLink) port to transfer the recorded movie on MiniDV to computer. But I found that I can trnafer only video clips of a few seconds not the whole movie and that's also taking very long time because the transfer rate is very slow from USB cable. I am using USB port and MPEG4 movie messenger system software supplied with my camcorder. I referred manual and it says I can better transfer the movie with IEEE card and cable, but that is also not in a whole but bigger video clips. So I am really disappointed after buying so much expensive camcorder and not getting expecting result. Do you have any solution for that using any software or hardware ? I would really appreciate for your favourable resoponse. |
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Silver Member Username: Project6Post Number: 541 Registered: Dec-03 | Nayan unfortunately the only way right now is for you to get a firewire card to your computer. USB is much too slow. |
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Drhiberd Unregistered guest | You all need to go out and buy a Mac. They come with all you need to create high quality movies, and burn them to beautiful DVD's. The programs are extremely easy to use and there is absolutely no loss in picture quality. Macs are made for digital video people like us. (p.s.- I don't get paid by Apple for that) Seriously, I have owned a couple of "high-end" windows-based PCs, and I was extremely dissapointed. I switched to Mac and will never go back. I use mine maily for digital video, and pictures do not have any complaints. My DVD's are so proffesional looking, and so easy to make that it's ridiculous. |
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Yogesh Unregistered guest | I just went through all the hassles outlined in these posts.. So what's the best way out? Go and buy firewire for $?? or get HP DVD Burner? or buy Apple - I have never bought an Apple - so don't even no what specs I am looking for.. I want it simply to make movies of our son and send them to grand parents.. what would be cost-effective and reasonably efficient way? |
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New member Username: HidenseekIndia Post Number: 1 Registered: May-04 | Hi All, I am adding another question to the list. I have a panasonic NV DS28, records in miniDV . How do I convert this to VHS or DVD format? Please help...I have a project deadline coming up! Im a young filmamker and am looking for all the help and guidance I can get! Thanks  |
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Drhiberd Unregistered guest | You can get an Emac from Apple for $999 with a DVD burner already installed. The computer will come with all the programs you need to edit and burn movies with ease. Just a suggestion. |
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Anonymous | Hey all. I am the guy who posted that "wal-mart saves the day". And I am directing my attention to Garima and Yogesh. I have window 2000 pro at home with an hp external dvd movie burner. I use it to hook up my sony trv-22 mini dv recorder to, and when I make a dvd, or vcd, they all come out great. I have done many movies of my son, and a wedding so far, and converted them easily with allmost no loss of quality. Fast and easy. The other good thing is, that my friends who have hi-8 tape recoders, barrow it when i am not using it to do the same thing. So you might be able to split the cost with someone. ($225.00) This price might be cheaper now. hope this helps |
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janna of the junkpile Unregistered guest | Don't know about you people but you can get a LG multiformat dvd burner for $112 and it's 8x speed. it comes with cheap software but it does the trick. You can get a video capture card, mine cost me $69 after rebate where I could plug my VCR directly into my computer. Use Virtual Dub (free) to download and TMPGENC (also free) to convert to mpeg. That's the cheap way to convert VHS-C or VHS to dvd or VCD and you don't even have to buy the dvd burner. You can really tell the difference between VCD and DVD though but if your husband has a tendancy to tape over vacation footage or first steps, it'll do in a pinch. Save the *.avi file until you can afford the DVD burner. |
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RKS Unregistered guest | Like many of you, I too was excited to finally buy a nice computer with a dvd burner to transfer my mini-dv home videos onto DVD. As soon as I put my great looking videos onto DVD(using a firewire) the picture quality becomes horrible. To "Wal-Mart Saves The Day", What is the model name of the external HP burner that you reccomend? After many hours of trying to figure this situation out I think I may be ready to spend the couple hundred dollars. Thanks to everyone for sharing their stories and all of your help. |
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pepe Unregistered guest | Can I send edited video from the PC to the camcorder sony DCR-TRV22 via i-link? |
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Unregistered guest | Hi I'm looking for the best way to convert my DV klips to DiVX or XVID ? |
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On-A-Rampage Unregistered guest | After reading the whole thread, there doesn't seem to be much conclusion about how to get what appears to be high quality video (miniDV) onto a DVD while keeping the image quality high. The only thing helpful here was the "Capture using 'Pinnacle DV 500plus', edit with 'Adobe Premeire', author with 'Dazzle DVD Complete'" - but record to DVD what what?? What we all want to do is copy the digital data from our camcorders onto DVD without loosing quality. How hard can it be? Software developers are you listing? We're tired of this not working and we want new capture/author/burn software that will do the simple stuff we want - no fancy menu's, no slide shows, just high quality miniDV tape to DVD disk transfer. http://www.fastdslservice.com/ |
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Silver Member Username: Project6Post Number: 845 Registered: Dec-03 | I use a DVD recorder and attach my camcorder and record direct. No programs needed. |
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Unregistered guest | Hi, I have a MiniDV Pal camara from Panasonic(nv-ds65), but I can't get my movies to my computer like a real movie..The Movie Maker don't let me choose DVmode... Somebody can help me... Thankx! |
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Unregistered guest | i can say u answer all of guestion. i tried several software to transfer my computer from my sony trv19 camera. now i found solution . i m recording divx from my camera with using ie 1394 cable. it s very good quality and very small size like 1 casette may be one cd. but i had an audio recording problem but i found it s program' s problem. and i have to install ac3 codec. i m using dr divx. it s really great. second program is win dvd recorder. but my choise is dr divx. if u still have problem mail me. efaik@yahoo.com |
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Tom Behan Unregistered guest | Dear Sony, JVC, Panasonic and any other Digital camcorder manufacturers, (because it's your product that we're ultimately dissapointed with). "We're tired of this not working and we want new capture/author/burn software that will do the simple stuff we want - no fancy menu's, no slide shows, just high quality miniDV tape to DVD disk transfer." Way to go "On a Rampage"!! I'm with ya! With all due respect to all of you who have offered us help, some of which has helped us alot, I'm of the same opinion. This is way to difficult , confusing and frankly dissapointing. Like many of you I spent a fair amount of money on my camera Sony TVR 80, bought a new HP 754n computer. Started to record with USB and the supplied Sony software. Upgraded to Firewire and Unlead studio. Then Adobe Premeire. But I'm still not getting movies of any quality. Whats the answer? I'm thinking the trick is in the capture. Is Pinnacle DV 500plus the answer? What about the external DVD burners? Seems like they work. But can I get the movies back into my computer to edit? Do I loose quality? What about Mac's. My Mac friends are all telling me there the way to go, no problems. But thats a BIG investment. Have you priced a G5 lately? I'd spend the money if I have to but come on, I mean its all 1 and 0's isn't it? It's digital. Why are so many of us having trouble? Some of us are using this cable with that encoder and this burning software and are getting poor results. Yet this guy uses that cable with this software and gets great results. I don'd get it. Could someone really shed some light on whats really going on here. I mean in depth explanation of how these devices work and how the data is brought into the computer, encoded and then compressed so maybe we can figure out what our problems are. Or better yet, simple explanation of a tried and true method to make high quality movies and DVDs from a DV camera. Thanks for any advice. Tom |
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Justine Unregistered guest | Hey. I'm kinda a beginner at this Movie editing thing. But I'm 14 and very interested in photography and any graphics thing. Recently I got a Panasonic PV-GS120. I want to transfer the movies I took into my computer. I don't know what a firewire is? I have the cable that hooks into my camera and into a USB port in my computer. Can anyone help me? |
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Gold Member Username: Project6Post Number: 1040 Registered: Dec-03 | the very first step in movie editing is to find out what type of equipment and software you are going to need. Get to know what firewire/IEEE1394 is and what it can do for your movies. That is your first assignment in movie editing, get to it The USB is not going to cut it. The will go into transferring. |
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klc3654 Unregistered guest | I recently purchased a JVC mini digital camcorder model GR-D72US. I'm able to transfer the videos to my PC and burn a video CD according to the instructions and the software provided via USB connection. The problem I have is when I try to view the video CD on my DVD/VCD player, I get an error message stating that the format is not recognizable. What am I doing wrong? Thanks for any help. |
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Jonathan Svanberg Unregistered guest | Hi, I just edited a MiniDV recording of my sister's wedding, shot on a Sony DCR PC101E. This is the first time I have done this, and spent the last three weeks researching the formats, encoding etc. I tried to write the AVI file back to the camcorder, but all I get is a blank screen. I'm using Cyberlink's Powerdirector, and the camcorder does record for the 35 minute duration, but there is no output on the camcorder LCD, and there's just a grey screen on playback. The DV-AVI is type 1, I have a 1394 connection to the Camcorder. It's the culmination of three weeks of research, so I was looking forward to this. I would appreciate any suggestions. |
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Gold Member Username: Project6Post Number: 1043 Registered: Dec-03 | are you trying to put the edited video back on to the DV tape??? You say it records for a 35 minute duration. So, the edited video from the computer can be recorded to the camcorder for only 35 minutes?! Now if you say that there is just a grey screen on playback, this tells me that there is absolutely no recording taking place for that 35 minute span. The only thing I can think of is that there is a format error, the video you edit is no longer the same format as what the camcorder is using. If you want to make a copy for your sister, you have to burn it to a dvd or vcd format. Also when transferring to the mini-dv tape from an alternate source, you have to use an analogue source. In essence you have to have a video output from your computer to record to the Sony camcorder. An AVI file will not be playable through a camcorder. |
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Unregistered guest | Help Just purchased a mini DV Canon ZR85 and I'm trying to Transfer the video onto my computer so I can then make DVD of our home movies. I am using an iMac (OSX 10.3). Nothing happens when I connect the usb cable from the camcorder to the computer. I do have imovie installed. I thought that it would automatically open up. Any suggestions? |
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KMo Unregistered guest | I found this website to be helpful understanding all of this. I'm still researching and haven't tried any of this, but hopes it helps some of you. http://www.dvcentral.org/fireway.html |
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redtoy45 Unregistered guest | I have a panasonic DV953 3ccd camera. It has worked great and I used Pinnacle studio for editing. But recently, my computer is not recognizing the camera when connected to the firewire. I have reloaded drivers, etc. I have heard of others having similar problems.. Anyone have the solution????? Thanks |
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Unregistered guest | I have a TRV19 Mini Dv Sony, I'm having problem capturing recorded video from minidv tapes,I used sonys software to transfer to PC using USB,the caputred video quality was very poor and its running very fast.and anyone explain me what is ILINK? and could tell me the better way to make video cds from camcorder. |
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Anonymous | I'd like to go back to a message that was posted on August 14, 2003.....Can you or anyone post the procedures to convert mini dv onto the DVD? If you have already created the high quality DVD, please share the necessary equipment and software used? Thanks. |
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Anonymous | Can I edit MPEG clip stored in pc by using windows movie maker? the MPEG clip has been captured from camcorder using USB & Pixela |
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Unregistered guest | With all of todays technology and processor speed, there has to be a fast and easy way to transfer from MiniDV to DVD. Here are some good and interesting points: 1. As far as I know you CAN NOT transfer your DV movies via USB, with any DV camcorder. You MUST use firewire for that; but with the USB 2.0 things could change in the near future. Using Win XP and firewire is simple, and most of the time don't even need a driver; just plug it in. Firewire(iEEE 1394) cards sell for under $30, including the cable and some s*** software. 2. I wish there is a program that can capture, and convert to high quality MPEG-2 in one shot, so all is left to do is author the DVD. If this program exist PLEASE let me know. 3. One software that can capture and convert the files for DVD ready authoring is InterVideo WinDvd Creator, however the quality is just OK, but nothing like the original. However, I can have a DVD ready for play in less than 2 hrs. 4. For me, the best thing now is to capture with Movie Maker 2.0, freeware, using DV AVI format. That gives me original quality picture, but the file is 13GB per 1 hour of DV. After I use TMPGEnc Plus to convert to MPEG-2 format. If you spend enough time with the settings of this software you could get good quality out of it, but it could take up to 7 hrs. to encode, and I have a very fast computer(HT, 1GB RAM DDR3200), and the last step author the DVD. I use TMPGenc DVD Author. As you can see, all this can take over 9 hrs.(capture, encode, author) and that's with fast editing. You can spend hours editing and making titles and effect for the video. I am not German, but to spend 9 hours in order to get 1 hour of quality home video on DVD, does not appear very efficient to me, lol. 5. If you have any questions or suggestion, please email me cfrtim@yahoo.com. Here is a link to a good website for this topic: www.videohelp.com |
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helsinki_slave Unregistered guest | I would like to add that there is much valid information and advice presented on this page - thanks to those taking the time to offer it. I cannot access my user documentation for Sony mini-DV (DCR-TRV27) but I strongly suspect it isn't streaming at USB 2.0, but rather 1.0. I have been playing around with capturing using Windows Media Encoder 9 and its quite obvious that the delta between the fps expected and fps delivered attributes to serious quality loss (~10 fps!). This is directly attributable to the cable - I am sure once I connect with the firewire, the data will be delivered adequately for higher quality (more fluid) capture to take place. I wish it was more pronounced on the product packaging for the mini-DV that the firewire would be required for viddy capture - they only provided the USB cable with the camera and I feel they certainly should have included both or at least the higher-priced of the two (i.e. the firewire cable). Alas, welcome to $ony. Hope this helps. For people just looking to burn a capture file of some type, which can then be burned onto a CD and mailed (i.e. the kids Saturday ballgame) I would suggest at least playing around with WME 9 and saving to a .wmv file. It's certainly verbose with all that's happening and the important stats of the capture. |
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Unregistered guest | USB are for the DV cameras that can capture still pictures and mpeg-4 movies on a memory card, or cameras that can be use as web cams. My JVC GR DVP-7 can do all of the above, via the USB cable that was supplied with. However, the 29.7 fps transfer can only be achieved with the iEEE 1394 connection. I've heard that some new models DV camcorders can also stream the DV Video via the USB 2.0 they are equipped with. The new USB 2.0 claims to transfer at a speed of 480Mbs, witch is more than the iEEE 1394 can do at 400Mbs. Than again, I heard the transfer claimed by USB 2.0, it's a little over the top, and can not maintain a constant transfer rate. At first, I was going to wait and get one of this "new: DV camcorders with the USB 2.0, but when I've seen a couple of speed test between the iEEE 1394 and USB 2.0, I decided to go with my JVC, and I am happy. Anyway there is a new iEEE avail. now, the 1394b that can transfer at 800 Mbs. So I said who cares, as long as it can stream good, and my camcorder does just that. Anyone here has a new cam with USB 2.0 and is able to stream at fool quality that way?????? |
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Unregistered guest | I just bought a sony mini dv and my computer has a usb and i connect it to my computer to capture a video, i get poor quality... that i notice that my pc has usb 1.1. i think the reason for poor quality is due to my usb pci card i must upgrade it to usb 2.0. Well ver. 2 transfer at 480 mbps while 1.1 about 14 mbps..Is this the correct solution for this? |
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waicool Unregistered guest | ok, here is my 2cents worth. i have the canon optura20 dv camcorder with a really fast pc. i use a firewire connection with windows xp and arcsoft showbiz software that captures the dvtape data onto the harddrive in MPEG2 format. I am not so happy with this yet but it seems to work. what i am looking to do next is to capture the dvtape directly onto the harddrive without any conversion (RAW format). i wish i knew how to do that and what the final pc file format would be (not avi, not mpeg, .....what????) somewhere i read that i need to use a "dumb" capture card but that would mean ditching the firewire and using s-video or composite which i am not sure is digital anymore. whatever, my head is about ready to explode. i wonder if i'll even watch these home movies when i'm done, i don't watch them now anyway. this was supposed to become simpler was it not?! |
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Lawrence Unregistered guest | Well i had solved my problems regarding capturing dv format to my pc with my new sony minidv cam.I even bought a usb 2.0 pci card but a usb 1.1 would do. I don't know how i did it but i just installed direct x 9.0 and an updated videocard driver. I used ulead videostudio trial version with it u have choices to which formAT U like but i think avi format (in w/c u can control the compession or w/o compression) is better than mpeg2..then convert it to svcd or dvd 0r mpeg2 format using TMpgenc. When i played my burned svcd on my tv it showed great results than before with dropdown in frames in which i am having trouble in capturing. |
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NVHBogota Unregistered guest | Having just read all of the threads, i think i will go out and buy a panasonic DVD writer with 80Gb Hdd. Should be able to directly import composite video from my DV camera to create a decent quality DVD. I think as long as people keep buying the latest technology, companies like Sony, Panasonic e.t.c. will keep developing it without creating the support structure to allow it to be used to its true potential. |
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Unregistered guest | In response to NVHBogota. What you are going to do, is destroy the whole purpose of a digital camcorder; if you are going to transfer the video from the camcorder via composite video. Might as well buy a good VHS-C or Hi-8 camcorder, and save some money. |
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Lawrence Unregistered guest | Well, i'm sorry my mistake for my last statement...usb 1.1 and 2.0 are not designed for digicamcorder. Firewire ports suit best for digital capturing, camcorder when connected to usb act like a webcam streaming frames. Firewire will answer all the problems mentioned here, apple computers are made with built in firewire, they invented it. |
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Lawrence Unregistered guest | Any firewire pci cards will do, even the low end ones, i haven't use the power connection on my pci. They say it will boost the performance. |
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Anonymous | I'm really frustrated with buying expensive mini dv camera's from Sony, trying to use firewire (i-link) and my computer doesn't recognize my cam. Although in the past he recognized my Canon xm1. Had clear and perfect picture. |
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New member Username: MaleemNew York, NY USA Post Number: 1 Registered: Aug-04 | I have Canon ZR45 camcorder. I want to transfer my mini DV stuff into computer. I can not see my device on computer when I select the tape option on Camcorder which have source. and it works with Memory card. but I don't have my video on memory card. Do I need some sort of capture device or only software. please Advise. |
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juststartiung Unregistered guest | microsoft moviemaker 2 (free) can capture raw dv using firewire and windows xp. it seems to do a decent job quality wise - I tried lots of capture sw before. |
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Unregistered guest | Hi I have Shap VL-Z5S , the video quality from miniDV to dirctly on TV is excellent. But after converting to DV to MPEG1 by using any ( Ulead4SE or Pinacle9.0SE ) the rendered video quality is not good ( no sharp )as compare to DV on TV. Eventhough self using DLink IEEE1394 firwire port and P4 PC. Please explain me in details , clearly on the rendering procedures will be very helpful . |
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Gold Member Username: Project6Post Number: 1250 Registered: Dec-03 | simply...there are no conversions taking place when playing direct DV to TV. |
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Anonymous | ber is right |
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Unregistered guest | Hi, I have a canon elura 50, i need help is there any software for this, converting my mini dv (captured by my elura 50) is there any way that i can convert my mini dv to dvd. The only software for my mini dv is zoombrowser EX 4.1, Photo record 1.6, photo stitch 3.1, camera twain Driver 6.0.1 & camera WIA driver 6.0.1. Is there any software that comes with the camera that i can use or i should buy a software to convert my mini dv for canon elura 50?.. Need Help Thanks, Slayer2125 |
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Gold Member Username: Project6Post Number: 1416 Registered: Dec-03 | What does your manual say? If you look in there it should tell you how to transfer DV into your PC. It is now your PC's job to process the video into a DVD format. Now you are going to need a DVD author program. |
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Unregistered guest | After getting the movie transfered fom the minidv to the computer and editing it, how can I export the movie to MPEGII format. Do I need to have some special software to do that? |
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Unregistered guest | I concurr with this completely. It mirrors my own experience. |
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Oscarito Unregistered guest | I have a JVC GR-DX77U Digital Camcorder. I have been able to transfer movies from a 60 min miniDV tape to my PC using firewire connection and then burn it to a DVD+R without losing any quality. After researching the web and many trials and errors with different software, the one that finally worked for me was UleadMovie FactoryStudioSuiteDeluxe2 (I have got it from TigerDirect.com as a bonus after purchasing blank DVD+R discs). Eventhough the Suite has many options, the one that worked for me was "Record directly to DVD Using Ulead DVD Movie Factory 2" (the window comes up automatically after plugging in the firewire cable from the camcorder) It allowed me to transfer the entire 60 minutes of the miniDV tape to a 4.7 Gb DVD+R disc. It even let me split, edit videos, add titles and subtitles, etc. If this method do not work for you, keep trying. I had to experiment for almost a week before finding the solution that worked for me. |
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Tris Unregistered guest | I have transfered my footage from my DV Cam using firewire, edited and completed my movie but wish to transfer it back to my DV camcorder. Is this possible and how. |
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Anonymous | Guys what I feel is things must be enjoyed the way they ought to be i.e. just record on the mini -DV and playback on TV this is the best !! I would rather keep buying the tapes as they are dirt cheap and I guess most of us ( pro's may use more ) donot use more than 5 tapes an year !! so it won't add up to so much of tapes anyways !! for those who want to show the clippings to their friends / parents I would rather fly down to my friends / parents place or have them come over. this way I will ensure that I donot lose the quality of the precious moment at any cost and also get a chance / reason to be with the loved ones !! |
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RickyRodeo Unregistered guest | I know what the problem is with all of you who are having it... The 'Imagemixer' software installs by default to encode any incoming DV data straight to Mpeg1 which is a very low quality video format. Simply open your 'tool' button while you are set up to capture from firewire, and deselect the convert to mpeg1 option, and make sure the setting for capture quality is at the highest setting. You will now save the raw DV data as an AVI and not an mpeg, and the file will be a lot larger. You will need different software to encode the raw DV movie to Mpeg2 and make a DVD,...if that is what you want to do? Personally, I get the absolute best results by playing the cam through an Mpeg2 capture card, which captures to Mpeg2 in real time at up to 10mbps which exceeds DVD spec's. |
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Ashu Unregistered guest | Hi all, Everybody is after making a DVD from DV tape. But my problem is the player I have do not play DVDs and I need an efficiant way to transfer my DV video to VCD. Can anyone help? Thanks in Advance |
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Unregistered guest | The first DVD I made using SONIC from minidv recorded on my cheap camera looks fine on my 32" TV. When I show it on my Front Projection (8O" diagonal) I can really see the loss in picture quality. I thought I should get the full 500 lines of resolution with mpeg 2 compression. It's not near the quality of store bought movies on DVD. Is it the authoring program, my cheap video camera...both? |
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New member Username: HotwirePost Number: 1 Registered: Oct-04 | Hi, What can I use to convert captured MiniDV to MGEG-2 to burn to DVD ? |
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Unregistered guest | I have just started using 'DVD MovieFactory 3 Disc Creator Capture' (not the standard version). You can download a 30 day trail (100mb). I found the quality conversion from miniDV to PC to DVD to be very good. This software includes burning anything to CD or DVD. Unfortunately you cannot buy the software in UK shops at the moment but can you can purchase the full software via download at www.ulead.com or http://www.ulead.co.uk/dmf/runme.htm. Hope this helps. |
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New member Username: HotwirePost Number: 2 Registered: Oct-04 | Hi Mark, Yep, I gave 'DVD MovieFactory 3 Disc Creator' a try and it does the job very well ; the quality looks great and it is very easy to use. Cheers for that |
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Anonymous | I would Like to answer to all the previous posters and "Tris", about how to transfer video back to your DV camcorder. In order to do that, your camcorder must have a DV-in port, but it is difficult to find a cheap camcorder with DV-in. Another solution, is somehow to use the DV-out port, that you use in order to transfer video from your camcorder. Someone in the post tried to do so, but he couldn't transfer anything. The reason is simple. The camcorders companies (Sony, JVC, Canon, etc.) have locked DV-out port. In other words DV-in is disabled by factory default. The good news is that there is a way to enable DV-in and use the DV-out port both ways. To transfer video from and to your camcorder. All you need is a program that will read camcorder's settings ("BIOS") and let you enable DV-in, and a little circuit to connect your camcorder (i-link) with your PC (serial-com port), in order to use this program. You can find all in one package that enables DV-in, or you can follow the directions in some sites and build one yourself (just like I did)... Sorry about my bad english... Hope it helped... |
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Anonymous | I am having Panasonic PV-GS120 3CCD Mini DV and my PC is having Windows 2000 professional. Pl. let me know which software and hardware is required to convert MiniDV tape movie file to CD/DVD. If anyone helps me by providing solution, it will be great. Thanks |
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Try2Help Unregistered guest | Anyone that has a Sony TVR-22 can output through firewire to computer(I use eMac) edit through software(iMovie) that does not compress files, then send back out through same firewire( the whole point of firewire is one cable a/v both ways) to your dv tape in the camera. I shot video in Ireland and through this method it works great on analogue tvs and my 42" HD tv. |
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Unregistered guest | I have sony DCR-TRV22E and working good on TV but if i connect on PC by fire wire my PC is not see my camera but if i connect others camera working good,so please help me what is wrong with my camera? |
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New member Username: FaroukPost Number: 1 Registered: Nov-04 | i have a panasonic nv-gs11 , i am using a firewire cable,and i am using windows movie maker 1.1 , however when i want to convert the dv to somethin other than dv cuz dv files are too large, the only options i have are all very bad quality like 320 240, i want at least like 640x480 pixels and to make it fit 1hr in 700 mb cd, so what software should i use or does movie maker 2.1 allow me to convert dv to such a quality , thanks i hope someone can help me... |
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Mrbios Unregistered guest | November 14 2004: I am borrowing my friends Sony DCR-TRV22 and streaming into the computer via usb2 cable. The quality sucks, aka poor quality video. My old analog Sony Hi8 video camera streamed in via ADS "Instant DVD" 2 blows it out of the water by a factor of 5x or more. That's pretty sad. I read a bunch of reviews and everyone forgot to talk about the sucky video quality. Analog vs Digital. Digital - what's the point? Answer: editing video in your computer! If you can't do that and have good quality why bother? Let me shed some light: USB2 (not usb1.0 or 1.1) vs Firewire there is NO difference. I can easily move 20 Megabytes a second over a USB2 cable sustained transfer rate! It's just digital data. USB1.0 or 1.l have much lower rates down around 1 Megabyte a second if you are lucky. Also, the sony produces jerky glitches that make the picture "jump" this is unacceptable. This camera will probably be regarded as junk just like the now dead "digital 8" standard. I like everything about this camera accept the quality when xfered into the computer - even with uncompressed AVI - again everyone forgot to mention that the uncompressed AVI are terrible quality almost as bad as the mpeg1? MPEG1 vs MPEG2: mpeg1 is for audio and low quality video. MPEG2 is the only way to go and I'm still learning about MPEG4. TV vs COMPUTER MONITOR vs HI DEFINITION TV: I hear the dummist things from people. The computer monitor is the highest quality by far and not surprisinlgly the most expensive wherether glass or flat panel. Has anyone noticed that a wide screen 20" flat panel computer screen costs over $2000 (11/2004)? The reason things look better on my 20 plain old TV is that quality is so low it doesn't show all the defects the computer monitor reveals. Even comercial DVD movies will show flaws when watched on a computer monitor. SOLUTION: I will fix the problem by returning the camera to my friend and continue using my 10 year old Hi8 camera then consider buying a digital camera that can actually beat my Hi8 / ADS Instant DVD 2 ... to mpeg2 video capture quality. Buy the way my videos look great on my 19" computer monitor *AND* on my TV. I also won't spend more that $400 |
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Mrbios Unregistered guest | November 14 2004: TV PLAYBACK TEST RESULTS Sony DCR-TRV22 (taken in SP Max Quality): Skip to bottom to see my test results. -------------------------------------------------- I just played the video on a low quality traditional 20" TV. The picture looked good and there was no skipping or choppy or jumps in the picture. My Sony Handycam CCD-TR910 Hi8 in analog or DVD capture box converted mpeg2 still beats the Digital Sony DCR-TRV22. High contrast areas are somewhat jagged sawtooth miceteeth etc and are "busy" even when there is no movement. This tells me that even with digital this is still a "home movie" or consumer ok quality device / process - vs - a new era of digital perfection. The mass-produced Zeiss lens optical quality is a joke, they probably just license the name. If the lens is made in china and should be called the "Zi" or Xi lens. -------------------------------------------------- CORE PROBLEM: Sony DCR-TRV22 -------------------------------------------------- I suspect the problem comes from the digital format sony chose to "export" on the usb2 port - it clearly adds choppyness. Also, the software only offers overly compressed mpeg1. No matter what program you use to capture: Ulead v7.x, Movie Factory - mpeg2(compressed) & AVI(uncompressed) are terrible quality. I suspect firewire *Might* have the same issues. USB2 NAYSAYERS: my ADS Instant DVD capture box is usb2 and is can stream AVI at 20 Megabytes (not Megabits 1 Megabyte = 8 Megabits) and there is NO choppyness or dropped frames. USB2 is NOT the problem or low quality - all the data is digital. However, sony might have chosen high quality output to be directed on firwire port and low quality on usb2 port. But this is not USB2's fault but rather Sony's. -------------------------------------------------- SOLUTION: -------------------------------------------------- I will test record / play a clip where I stream the video out on the s-video cable (analog) to my ADS Instant DVD capture box - turn it back to mpeg2 digital and then review the quality. I'm sure it will be vastly superior to the sony output on the digital usb cable. You can buy the cheaper version - less bells and whistles at walmart for $77 + comes with ulead v7 and movie factory - good editing programs for $77. Search walmart for "ADS" don't put anyother key words in DVD Xpress (not Express). I saw the ADS Xpress on the shelf at walmart. -------------------------------------------------- MY ADS INSTANT DVD 2 Test results with Sony DCR-TRV22: -------------------------------------------------- Results were GREAT! Looks great on a traditional TV Set AND on a computer monitor. No choppyness at all. Way better picture quality than useing the sony software and usb2 port and AVI format. Also, I streamed in directly to mpeg2 with my analog capture box. No need to stream to AVI then convert to mpeg2. I burned a DVD and the final results are great (no digital perfect but very good for most consumers home movie). -------------------------------------------------- EXPLANATION: What I did in plain english -------------------------------------------------- Since everyone that owns this camera knows that it looks fine when hooked up to TV or VCR but BAD when dititally sent via the USB2 port into the computer. I side stepped the sony software and usb2 port by taking the regular red/yellow/white video cables from the camera and instead of hooking up up to the tv/vcr I hooked them up to an external analog to digital usb2 video capture box. I then converted the camera's analog output back to digital - which although inefficient: camera records in digital then I sent analog output to to my capture box when then turns back into digital. The final results are about what you would expect the sony software to do in the first place. I don't recommend this camera for this reason but if you already own it then I recommend buying the ADS brand capture box. http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?product_id=2188130 http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product_listing.gsp?cat=122788&path=0%3A3944%3A39 64%3A163385%3A122788 The really inexpensive $77 ADS Xpress http://graphics.tomshardware.com/video/20040220/ |
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Unregistered guest | I am using Sony DCRTRV33E camcorder. I am facing some problem on burning VCD from MiniDV. The problems are:- 1. I does not transfer the data in VCD format. Just makes the MPEG file. 2. It does not transfer the date and time as stored in MiniDV. 3. 1 MiniDV in LP mode creates 8 MPEG files.It says HDD does not have enough space, though at least 3.5 GB is free. Can someone help me in burning VCD from MiniDV. |