Diseqc/22kz switches

 

Bronze Member
Username: Pirate_pete

Post Number: 100
Registered: May-06
I have done some research regarding connecting these switches. Al7bar used to have a site with all this info and diagrams but cannot find it anymore. I have come across conflicting info regarding the proper installation when using these switches together. Some say that 22kz switch should be installed between the reciever and the Diseqc switch and others say the 22kz should be installed between the Diseqc and the LNB. Which is proper and why? Thanx.
 

Silver Member
Username: Grimreeper

Post Number: 136
Registered: Feb-06
between the reciever and the diseqc switch then you can turn it on and off to control witch diseqc switch you want for running a total of 8 lnbs
 

Silver Member
Username: Pirate_pete

Post Number: 102
Registered: May-06
I just tried that way it seems the diseqc signals stop at 22kz swich and control disec . Other way working good but need a 22kz switch for every additional lnb.Messy and extra connections .Can't be right?
 

Silver Member
Username: Pirate_pete

Post Number: 103
Registered: May-06
I was just told diseqc commands stop at 22kz switch and 22kz switch must be installed AFTER diseqc switch just before lnb but doesn't look professional and excessive.
 

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Username: Johnner

Miami, Florida

Post Number: 216
Registered: Nov-05
I was going to upload a photo to help you out but it seems that they have lower the size of uploads from 100k to 1k.
 

Gold Member
Username: The_wank_artist

Post Number: 1033
Registered: Feb-06
Yeah, there was a P0RN problem a few weeks back and they dropped the upload size limit.
Very 6th grade.
 

Silver Member
Username: Pirate_pete

Post Number: 104
Registered: May-06
Anybody using these switches together for more than 4 sats tell me wich way you have them connected. Thanx.
 

Gold Member
Username: Lklives

Post Number: 3581
Registered: Jan-06
This should set U straight pirate..pretty simple to comprehend, even for a big time tester like U...LMAO...this is a test , which came first the 22khz or the disque?

All About Diseqc

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What is DiSEqC?
DiSEqC is an open standard that stands for Digital Satellite Equipment Control.

Why DiSEqC?In order to squeeze more channels into a given frequency band width, channels are transmitted with vertical OR horizontal polarization.


The conventional LNB known as the "Marconi (polarization) Switching LNB" responds to the supply voltage to change the polarization. If the supply voltage going up the dish cable is less than 15 volts, the LNB will "see" only vertically polarized transmissions. If the voltage is more than 15 volts, it will "see" only horizontally polarized transmissions.The older type of LNB had a separate polarizer to do this job and was able to use the voltage to select High Band or Low Band operation (by changing the internal oscillator frequency).So the modern LNB has a problem if it has to switch between two frequency bands. The problem was overcome with the introduction of the "Universal" LNB.The "Universal" LNB switches polarization with voltage but it also switches its internal oscillator for "High Band" when it "hears" a 22kHz tone. Specifically, the oscillator changes from 9.75 GHz to 10.6 GHz.Recently manufactured receivers incorporate a 22kHz tone generator, which is menu-selectable on a per-channel basis. (One exception is the Ferguson SRD6 which has a tone generator but no menu selection. The tone comes on automatically if you program a channel for a higher frequency).Older receivers require an external tone generator box in order to make the "Universal" LNB select High Band. The external box can be controlled by a manually operated switch or by some feature of the receiver, which will put a voltage onto its control wire to switch it on.An alternative use for the 22kHz tone is to control an external switching box which feeds signals from one of a pair of LNBs into the receiver. For example, you could have two separate LNBs on a dish connected to a switching box, which is itself connected to the receiver by a single coaxial cable. When the box "hears" a 22kHz tone it swaps to the other LNB.DiSEqC is an extension of this idea. It relies on a switching box, which detects the 22kHz tone pulsing rapidly on and off. In this way, a specially designed receiver can control numerous LNBs through a DiSEqC switching box. How DiSEqC Works DiSEqC messages are sent as sequences of short bursts of 22KHz tone modulated on the LNB power supply carried by the coax cable from the LNB input on the receiver (the master). Messages comprise a number of digital bytes of eight bits each. Each bit occupies a specific time and ten proportion of that time filled with the 22KHz burst determines whether that bit is a 1 or a 0.The first byte is the Framing byte. The first five bits in this follow the pattern, '11100' to allow listening devices (slaves) to synchronies to the signal. Some of these may change with later versions of DiSEqC. The sixth bit is set to 0 if the message is a command from the master or 1 if it's a reply from a slave. Bit seven is set to '1' if a response is required or 0 if not. The last framing bit signals whether this message is a re-transmission of a message for which a reply has not been received.
 

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Username: Lumberman

Denton, Nc Usa

Post Number: 2
Registered: Jun-06
letting everyone know that the coocoo 4000 [pro and the digisat are working with out any new file got ppv and all movie channels
 

Silver Member
Username: Dafee99

Post Number: 136
Registered: Apr-06
pirate pete there are some diagrams in here with different types of settings

http://forums.dsstester****.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=42057
 

Silver Member
Username: Pirate_pete

Post Number: 105
Registered: May-06
I don't know which came first,the chicken or the egg,but I retested both ways and only one way works.It was a simple question LK requiring a simple answer,NO spoonfeeding theres a lot of incorect info around that people take for truth when it's not! NO help on this one.I think most peep's would be supprized at the way to install them.
 

Silver Member
Username: Pirate_pete

Post Number: 108
Registered: May-06
22kz goes between lnb and diseqc.
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