Are these the same

gage ware Silver Member Username: Gage Post Number: 174 Registered: Feb-06	Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 17:23 GMT http://cgi.ebay.com/Orion-2500d-amp-Wcc-D5000-amp-5000-watt-FREE-SHIPPING_W0QQit emZ9711819173QQcategoryZ18797QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem and http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Orion-HCCA-D5000-5-000-Watt-Car-Audio-Amp-Mono_W0QQitemZ 9710787433QQcategoryZ18797QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Brandon Gold Member Username: Theelfkeeper Stockbridge, GA USA Post Number: 1729 Registered: Feb-05	Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 22:05 GMT the second is the new one. pretty much the same specs as the old 2500D's i think. that top one is a regular 2500D with the WCC crap stuck over the top. haven't heard much on the new ones yet.