Not car audio...N2O help lol
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Silver Member Username: 54danny54Post Number: 952 Registered: Nov-04 | If anyone knows aythin g about nitrous tell me... anything appreciated... Especially difference bewteen wet,dry,driect port,purge,and fogger kits i know a few basics |
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Silver Member Username: 54danny54Post Number: 954 Registered: Nov-04 | bump llol |
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Silver Member Username: Nutty91rsBloomington, Indiana USA Post Number: 152 Registered: Oct-05 | I know plenty about nitrous I've ran nitro on several local cars and run it on my weekend race car every time I take it out. I can address a few of your questions but I would like to know what your plans are and I can help you out alot more. Wet vs. Dry: Dry systems rely on the cars factory fuel system to provide the added fuel for the nitrous, it does this bye increasing the fuel pressure and injecting more fuel through your injectors. Wet systems spray a stream of fuel into the nitrous stream and then the fuel n20 mix runs into your engine. Direct Port: involves firing the nitrous into each individual intake runner so the nitrous hits every cylinder evenly Purge: Used to spray the evaporated nitrous out of the lines so that you won't have a soft hit, or an extremely rich running motor for a moment when you initially set off the nitrous, also a massive poser tactic is to set up a purge without actually putting the nitrous into the engine (thank you Fast and Furious) Fogger Kits: Just a way to inject the nitrous, it sends it out in a plume via the shape of the nozzle. |
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Silver Member Username: 54danny54Post Number: 977 Registered: Nov-04 | i heard it could blow ur engine up... tue or no? i was just thinkin about gettin a system for a simple s-10...just for show off lol |
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Silver Member Username: Nutty91rsBloomington, Indiana USA Post Number: 153 Registered: Oct-05 | It has the potential to blow up your engine just the same as the amplifier you buy has the potential to blow up your speakers. If you keep it in perspective and stay within what the components in your engine can handle it won't hurt a thing. It's like buying a 1000 watt amplifier for a single 200 watt subwoofer, you can do this just fine but don't go cranking the daylights out of it or you'll tear something up. Nitrous is the same way in that you can adjust the ammount of nitrous you spray into your motor. I'm assuming your S10's a 4.3 liter those motors will handle a 100 shot and never break a sweat. The real issue with nitrous on an S10 is going to be traction, S10's love to wheel hop and it's only going to get worse if you make 200 more pounds of torque at low RPM's (what nitrous does). Nitrous also costs around 35 dollars per 10 pound bottle fill (3.55 a pound locally) so if you don't race it and just want to show off, I wouldn't waste the money on it. If you do weekend race and want the potential to shave some serious time off of your truck ETs then you CANNOT beat nitrous hp/dollar. One thing that falls into my "massive poser" catergory is buying a nitrous bottle, nitrous solenoid and plumb line, then just running a purge on the truck. You can then fill the bottle with much cheaper CO2 and purge the truck in front of your friends as they ooh and aw over your cool looking nitrous bottle install. |
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Silver Member Username: 54danny54Post Number: 980 Registered: Nov-04 | so purge dosent do anything 2 performance?...i would appreciate some info on a purge deal lmao. id run 2 tanks if i like the purge, 1 nitro and 1 CO2 |
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Silver Member Username: Nutty91rsBloomington, Indiana USA Post Number: 154 Registered: Oct-05 | No a purge does effect your performance. You're wanting to inject liquid nitrous into the engine but as it sits in the line from the bottle to the solenoids it turns into a gas. A purge is a way of getting this gas and any air that was in the line when you screwed it onto the bottle out so you will have a more powerful "hit" when you activate the nitrous. All a purge is doing is venting the nitrous into the open air so you can have fresh liquid nitrous in your lines, people now a days tend to think a purge is so you can let everyone know you have nitrous and your car is just bad@ss... it's funny because that's exactly what every serious street racer DOESNT want to do. I don't run a purge on my Camaro, I activate the nitrous momentarily as I heat the tires to purge the air and evaporated nitrous so no one knows for sure it's on there. What it comes down to is do you want to make the truck fast, or look cool? |
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Silver Member Username: 54danny54Post Number: 981 Registered: Nov-04 | so a purge is like pure liquid N2O..does it like let out clouds of smoke like it did in 2fast 2furoius when that oconner dude pulled up for that first street race? |
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Silver Member Username: Nutty91rsBloomington, Indiana USA Post Number: 155 Registered: Oct-05 | .... nitrous is under about 1200psi of pressure it's a LIQUID inside your bottle but when it hits the open air it turns into a GAS. It seems to me like you're only interested in looks. I'd recommend you just buy a solenoid, a bottle, and a main line, then plumb your solenoids with copper line wherever you want your "clouds of smoke". Fill the bottle with CO2 and wire a switch for your solenoid and you'll get the clouds. |
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Silver Member Username: Nutty91rsBloomington, Indiana USA Post Number: 156 Registered: Oct-05 | As a note about 99.999% of what you see in the smoking turds that are the Fast and the Furious movies is complete hollywood SH1T. If you start hanging around real racers don't mention anything you saw in those movies, they're a hard crowd and will screw with you immensly after that, I won't because you're on the forum and this is a place to share knowledge not compete. |
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Gold Member Username: JmloughreyFarmington, CT Post Number: 1394 Registered: Jul-04 | i'd reccommend you dont waste your time... |
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Silver Member Username: 54danny54Post Number: 982 Registered: Nov-04 | problem...i have no idea where 2 fill it with CO2 lol |
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Silver Member Username: Killerzracing71Fredericksbutg, Virginia United states Post Number: 138 Registered: Aug-05 | brian u know exactlly what u r talking about i wish i say this thread before u |
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Bronze Member Username: MadeupnamePost Number: 98 Registered: Sep-05 | um a paintball place. they have tons of it |
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Silver Member Username: CenusHicksville, Ohio Usa Post Number: 652 Registered: Jan-05 | but you do have to admit that the car in the fast and the furious that has the blower on it was pretty b@dass!?!?! |
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Silver Member Username: Iufan4lifeulPost Number: 771 Registered: May-05 | I wonder if I could put a N20 system in my stock Mit. Lancer  2.0L 4 cyl with 120 HP LOL. TBH though, would there be like 1 or 2 mods that aren't insane like turbo that I could put on it and notice a HUGE improvement in performance? |
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Silver Member Username: Iufan4lifeulPost Number: 772 Registered: May-05 | Could some high end spark plugs have any noticable change from factory ones? They are cheap... |
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Bronze Member Username: CoreyPost Number: 42 Registered: Aug-05 | NO, unless your stock plugs are in horrible condition, otherwise they wont do anything. The best mods to get to really feel an improvement would probably be camshafts or (intake, header, exhaust) |
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Silver Member Username: Iufan4lifeulPost Number: 773 Registered: May-05 | cool thanks! Cold air first and then exhaust second? Doesn't the Cold air add some rumble or something to the sound of your car? Would I notice a major difference getting it? |
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Bronze Member Username: CoreyPost Number: 43 Registered: Aug-05 | Short ram intakes add a vacuum sound, but cold air intakes don't have much of a sound. Although you may have to worry about hydrolock with a cai they do give you more hp.(about 3-5). The next mod is the header. You can get an expensive header like smsp or rmf and maybe get 10+ hp, but be prepared to pay 1000+ dollars. Most people usually get DC sports headers. Then the exhaust comes last. What you should do here is buy a high flow cat, have an exhaust place make you some custom piping, and buy a muffler of your choice. I like the Apexi WS2 |
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Silver Member Username: Nutty91rsBloomington, Indiana USA Post Number: 157 Registered: Oct-05 | The sound of a cold air intake depends how the cold air intake is shaped (how long it is, how large the filter is etc). Exhaust obviously makes or breaks the sound of your car, it if's a 4 cylinder you want a REAL muffler on there not some kind of giant glasspack that's became ubber popular lately. There is absolutly NOTHING out there that can beat the power and price of a small nitrous kit. You can put one on that Lancer and run 70hp through it, it will make a massive difference, more than headers, intake, cam pulleys, pretty much anything short of a head and cam package. Just make sure to run the proper jetting (recommended in the kit) and use premo fuel when you're activating the nitrous. I'll put it this way I loaned my friend my secondary dry nitrous kit for his 1998 Mustang. Flat stock the car was a SLUG it ran a 15.8 at Edgewater. On a .38 jet the car ran a 14.7 (.38 jet is around 60hp). With a full dual exhaust and X pipe (240 dollars) and a cold air intake (50 dollars) he got his NA times down to a 15.2 and his nitrous times came up to a 14.5. Finally he installed a PI upper intake after his original intake blew at the coolant passage. This was the biggest impovement in his car, his NA times climbed to 15.00 and his nitrous times on a .53 (around 100 shot) jet came up to a 13.5. PS. Any sporting goods stores that carry paintball guns with the small tanks should be able to fill a bottle with CO2, it runs about 2 dollars per 20oz's. You may need to find an adapter so they can fill up something with an AN fitting but that shouldn't be to hard. |
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Silver Member Username: Nutty91rsBloomington, Indiana USA Post Number: 158 Registered: Oct-05 | For the spark plug question, NO they won't make any noticable difference on a stock car. Also aftermarket plug wires can be a terribly bad idea especially on Honda's. The distributors are built to run a specific resistance of plug wire and you can actually burn out parts of the distributor if you use too low of a resistance (just like to low of an ohm subwoofer on an amp, after all thats what your ignition is, an amp and your plugs are just like a speaker voice coil). The best bet on plugs and wires is to go with an aftermarket wire that is close to your originals ohm per foot rating (I recommend NGK, ACCEL, MSD, SUMITOMA and advise you stay away from Taylor at all costs). On the plugs it's usually best that you run whatever your car came with factory. I stick with NGK in my Camaro and my Prelude, and Denso's in my girlfriends Nissan (Denso's are Nissan's stock plugs). If you start substantially modifying your car then you may need to change heat ranges on your plugs but it's unlikely. I still run a stock heat range in my Camaro and I spray a 175 shot of nitrous through it. As a final note on Spark Plugs, Iridium and Platinum spark plugs are great for long life, but if you run nitrous or high boost you DO NOT want them because Platinum plugs hold heat and will cause detonation; Iridium plugs can get so hot that the Iridium insert actually falls out of the plug and is then free to bang around and imbed somewhere in your combustion chamber. |
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Silver Member Username: Iufan4lifeulPost Number: 775 Registered: May-05 | Could you recommend a fairly inexpensive CAI system. I would like a deeper sound and the most performance if possible. Thanks. |
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Silver Member Username: Iufan4lifeulPost Number: 776 Registered: May-05 | http://www.eautoworks.com/html/ORD-Auto~performance-Aspec~Air~Intake~System-no-1 9777.htm How would that do? And would a Ram Air be alright for that car? What difference would i see between the 2? |
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Silver Member Username: Nutty91rsBloomington, Indiana USA Post Number: 161 Registered: Oct-05 | http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/02-03-04-MITSUBISHI-LANCER-2-0L-AIR-FILTER-INTAKE -NEW-R_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ38634QQitemZ8014084963QQrdZ1 assuming your car is an 02 to 03, but I'd have to recommend you save your money and go the super sleeper route, buy this and hide it when you install it: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/IMPORT-NITROUS-OXIDE-WET-KIT-NEW-NX-NOS-CIVIC-CRX -BMW_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33740QQitemZ8014018850QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW Take it to the drag strip and hustle some people into racing you for 50 bucks, no one will expect a regular Lancer with no exhaust, cold air intake, fancy stickers to run like it will with a good shot of nitrous. |
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Silver Member Username: Iufan4lifeulPost Number: 777 Registered: May-05 | would those cheaper type of cold air intakes be just as good as the high end brands? |
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Silver Member Username: Nutty91rsBloomington, Indiana USA Post Number: 165 Registered: Oct-05 | yes don't fall for market hype about it "reducing turbulance blah blah blah" they're all the same as long as they're smooth and don't have 45 degree angles in them (there are some like this on eBay avoid them). As a note, the CAI's that are metal can be drilled and threaded to take nitrous nozzles very easily :-) |
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