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Bronze Member Username: Suppal138Post Number: 14 Registered: Jan-05 | My system is setup for music only. I have a Marantz 8400 receiver and KEF Q5 towers. Will the addition of a subwoofer add to the sound. I listen mostly to rock and Blues. Some jazz. Any recommendations of which sub I should consider? I'm a newbie to this. |
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Gold Member Username: Jan_b_vigneDallas, TX Post Number: 6188 Registered: May-04 | "Will the addition of a subwoofer add to the sound." What do you want it to add? A subwoofer reproduces low frequencies. Is this what you think your system is lacking? |
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Bronze Member Username: Rysa4Post Number: 63 Registered: Jul-05 | The speakers extend to 39 HZ. They weight a 32 KGs I think ( about 75 lbs). Does your Marantz have a subwoofer out? If so, the addition of a sub could extend the frequency range of your music, allowing you to hear and feel more of the audio data. Integrating subs for optimal audio is a little tricky, but doable for sure. I prefer Non- ported subs for music in general. My choice is the UFW-10 by Onix/Rocket. But ther are others that folks recommend that I haven't heard as well. The UFW I mentioned gets you to 24 or 25 HZ. |
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Bronze Member Username: Suppal138Post Number: 15 Registered: Jan-05 | thanks. my marantz does have a sub out |
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Gold Member Username: Jan_b_vigneDallas, TX Post Number: 6305 Registered: May-04 | I'll be a stick in the mud here and repeat my question; what do you want it to add? If the KEF's have an on paper response down to 39Hz, the room gain will take them down into the low 30Hz range - at least. The roll off of the speaker would mean you have usuable repsonse to about 25Hz right now. You should be hearing the low registers on pipe organs and pianos with that frequency response. If this is for a music only system, what do you expect to hear from a sub below that 30Hz point? There's very little musical information at the frequency range and it is unusual for most recordings to capture sounds beneath 30Hz. Studio recordings have no amount of room ambience that will be that low in range. http://www.psbspeakers.com/audioTopics.php?fpId=8&page_num=1&start=0 If you are looking to extend the frequency response of your system, a properly set up subwoofer will probably add very little that is noticeable. If you are looking to just add more volume to the bass response your KEF's already produce, a sub will probably do that but at the expense of the overall system sound unless you are spending a substantial amount on the very, very good subwoofer. |
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Bronze Member Username: Suppal138Post Number: 16 Registered: Jan-05 | wow. thanks for the education. Interesting link. I wanted to extend the frequency response and not artificially pump up the bass. looks like a sub (especially a mid priced one) may not be what im looking for? Yet, sometimes i want to feel the bass and the q5s dont seem to deliver that at everyday listening volumes. And I recently saw the KEF PSW 3000 adveritsed for about 260$. |
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Gold Member Username: Edster922Abubala, Ababala The Occupation Post Number: 2701 Registered: Mar-05 | anirudh, check out the STF-1 and STF-2 at hsuresearch.com these are very good for both music and HT (the STF-1 would be more effective in a small room, and if you have a huge room then the STF-3). You can also get the STF-2 b-stock from them directly for about $350 shipped. |
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Gold Member Username: Jan_b_vigneDallas, TX Post Number: 6340 Registered: May-04 | What you seem to be indicating is there is enough bass extension in your system but you want to add more bass or a greater quantity of bass or change the quality of bass. Correct? If we can assume your present speakers can produce bass in your room to around 30Hz, that means there is not much that a sub woofer can do other than allow you to turn up the amount of bass you get by adjusting the volume level on the powered sub's amplifier. A parametric equalizer would do a more effective job on your current speakers, wouldn't require as much additional cabling or special placement and could be switched out of the system when not required. One problem you might face with a subwoofer is still not having bass in your room. Often a room problem is the culprit when not enough bass is available and this room problem must be addressed before even a subwoofer can do much good. People automatically assume flat response in their room and that is the farthest thing from the truth. All rooms have problems (dips and peaks) beneath 500Hz and the deep bass you hear is a result of the room as much as the speaker. If the room has a suckout of response at somewhere around 70Hz, which is very common in many rooms, adding a sub woofer is not really going to compensate for the room problem. Have you experiemented with speaker placement, changing your listening position or anything to try to get the most out of your present speakers or have you just decieded to get a sub because that seemed like the thing to do? |
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Bronze Member Username: Suppal138Post Number: 17 Registered: Jan-05 | HANKS GUYS. I AM BACKING OFF FROM ADDING A SUB IN A HURRY, AND AM ACTUALLY PLAYING AROUND WITH SPEAKER PLACEMENT EVEN AS THE LAST POST CAME IN. |