180 sumthin db

 

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Username: Shadylimitedx

Pgh, Pa Usa

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my friend 2 day went to the local audio shop an the 1 guy told him they had a truck or car that did like 180sutmhin db an he said its enough 2 make ur heart stop an set off a peacemaker by the car or w/e is that true a car can that much db ill try find out more whne i go
 

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Username: Taylor17

Kopperl, Texas

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Port wars is the only way to reach in the 180's I believe.
The world record is 178 and some change.
When you go back and find out some more info, see what kind of meeter was used, and if it was legal.
Do to the atmosphere, I don't think its possable to reach that kind of pressure.
The spaceshuddle is louder, but the fuel burning changes the atmosphere allowing it to do so.

P.s, don't for get to find out what kind of equipment was used.:-)
 

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Username: Taylor17

Kopperl, Texas

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Oh, and you don't have to be in the 180's to stop a heart.
I think you can do that in the 150's... but not completely sure about that.
 

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Username: Tdbdadrummer

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Taylor, not the 180's, but generally the high 160's is a safe bet if you're trying to kill someone :-).
 

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Username: Robert_d

MIA, FL USA

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lol tryin to assassinate someone ? ;)
 

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Username: Tdbdadrummer

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Not with my Volfenhags lol.
 

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Username: Taylor17

Kopperl, Texas

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Lol yeah.
I actually sat in a truck that could stop a heart.
As you can tell, he didn't completely turn it up,:-) but he turned it quite aways up.
I can't even describe what it felt like.
Maybe like a miget trying to fight his way out of my chest.
Either way, I almost crapped my pants.
Defenantly couldn't breathe.
 

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Username: Tdbdadrummer

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What's with the midget jokes today...Check out the Volfenhag??? thread for another one...
 

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Username: Taylor17

Kopperl, Texas

Post Number: 3074
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Hmm, lol don't know.
Sorry if I offended.:-)
Just a kawensedence maybe.
 

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Username: Tdbdadrummer

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Yea, you offended my 5'11" midget self. I'm not extremely tall, but I'm not a midget...
 

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Username: Taylor17

Kopperl, Texas

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Lol... I'm pretty close... only 5/5.
 

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Username: Theelfkeeper

Stockbridge, GA USA

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I though i read somewhere that 180 was the loudest something could possible be in earth's atmosphere. i'm not totally sure on that though.
 

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Username: Audiobass10

Cape Coral, FL United States

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The only way I can see 150 DB stopping your heart is if you already have a heart condition. People sit in 150+ DB cars on burps without even covering their ears (bad idea, but it's true).
 

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Username: Jonathan_f

GA USA

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194db is considered the theoretical maximum SPL, which is double atmospheric pressure when compressing and a perfect vacuum during rarefaction. It is considered this because the amount of compression will be equal to atmospheric pressure, after that you have surpassed the pressure of the atmosphere and no compression occurs. The only way you could go past 194 would be if you changed air properties, did the test where pressure is higher (underwater, or under sea level), or create a shockwave, basically a sonic boom, which would require that the speaker move faster than the speed of sound.
 

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Username: Jakeyplaysbass

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Jonathan, cant some animals produce almost 190 dB? I think the Blue Whale can do something crazy like 188 dB.
 

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Username: Basshead86

Ocala, FL USA

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"Either way, I almost crapped my pants."

*mental picture* LMAO!
 

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Username: Jonathan_f

GA USA

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"Jonathan, cant some animals produce almost 190 dB? I think the Blue Whale can do something crazy like 188 dB."

Yup. It's underwater, though, one of the stipulations I mentioned above.
 

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Username: Corey

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Jonathan, I have a question. If it were possible to put a sub in a dense solid, and still be able to play it, could you play 200+ dB's?
 

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Username: Tdisanto

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If you put the sub in a dense Solid how would the cone move?
 

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Username: Corey

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I was speaking hypothetically.:-) I thought since water is more dense than air, more pressure could be created, therefore a solid should produce more pressure than water.
 

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Username: Kd7nfr

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Not a solid, but a dense liquid so you have movement. But that would require imense amounts of power. It's been deemed "litterally impossible" as we decided in a class I took in the Marines.
 

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Username: Jonathan_f

GA USA

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Assuming you had air or water and it was as dense as a solid, you would have tremendous SPL capability.
 

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Username: Vai4me

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Here's one at what db does your typical auto-grade glass "break"? Since we all know that front windows don't shatter like typical windows are they tougher to break? Do you have to hit a certain Hz. to break it? (I am sure everyone has heard of the high c note breaking glass)...Just wondering since were all getting so scientific...LOL
 

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Username: Tdbdadrummer

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Yes, Andy, the frequency does play a part, if you had a tweeter powerful enough to hit high enough frequencies at that amplitude, then yes, it could be done.
 

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Username: Basshead86

Ocala, FL USA

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i'm gonna go seal up my box and fill it with Jell-O, and hit 175dbs.:-O
while breaking every slab of glass in my car. ROFL!
 

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Username: Rhassler

Gilford, NH

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hahahha ill throw some pudding in mine and we'll see who can hit louder lol
 

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Username: Basshead86

Ocala, FL USA

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LMAO!!! YOUR ON!!!:-O
 

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Username: James1115

Wilton, Ct

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Low-frequency sound (below 1,000 hertz) goes farther. You may not be able to hear the singers on your neighbor's stereo, but you can hear the bass.

ATOC uses the ocean's natural channels to transmit low frequency thousands of kilometers. Sound travels slightly faster in warmer water. Scientists believe that by measuring how fast sound travels across the cooler "Deep Sound Channel" in comparison with its speed in other parts of the ocean, they can detect a global warming trend.

The noise about noise
Whales sing low and loud. Their sounds travel thousands of miles. Blue whales off Newfoundland can be heard in Puerto Rico, said Dr. Christopher W. Clark, a principal investigator of both ATOC and LFA's mammal research. Not by humans, whose ears are made for air and who rely more on vision anyway, but by sonar detectors, and presumably by whales.

Whales depend on hearing the way humans depend on sight. They use their sonar to find food, detect enemies, attract mates and know where their children are.

Scientists say low-frequency sonar, if loud enough, has the potential to drown out the whales so they can't hear what they need to. Whales listening intently for the quiet swish of a school of fish may go hungry. A 3-month-old whale who leaves his mother's side to begin to explore his world may not hear her calling to him and may never find her again.

It could do other damage, too.

Very loud sounds can rip ear, lung and other vibrating tissues. A sound wave is a pressure wave; that's why you can sometimes feel your body vibrate during loud, low sounds. When body tissues resonate with the sound's frequency, the pressure increases.


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The impact of a sonic disturbance varies with the animal's distance from the sound source.




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Repeated exposure to moderately loud sounds can damage human ears, as rock musicians have learned.

Even milder sounds can be annoying, stressful, distracting (picture the golfer about to swing) or confusing.

Some sounds attract whales toward boats, making them more vulnerable to collision.

Sometimes whales fall silent. Sperm and pilot whales stopped "singing" (using their active sonar) altogether during a 220 decibel test in 1991, some of them for days, which meant they were not eating during that time.

Whales may fall silent to hide from their sharp-eared predators (killer whales, or orcas). Because silence evolved as their survival response, they hush at any strange noise.

When they're not using their active sonar, whales are not courting potential mates, and they may not be finding food. Deep-water whales, the kind with teeth, are thought to use echolocation (active sonar) for navigation and hunting.

Sounds booming at regular intervals also could interfere with whales' sleep. Little is known about how whales and dolphins sleep, except that they must surface to breathe. "In humans, prolonged or repeated noises can cause difficulties in falling asleep, changes in sleep patterns, and awakenings," says the often-cited book "Marine Mammals and Noise" by W. John Richardson et al.

Chronic noise may lead to high blood pressure in humans, and strong noise can affect reproduction and rearing of young in land animals, Richardson's book adds.

Repeated stress can take a toll on an animal's immune system, leaving it more vulnerable to parasites and other infections.

Extreme stress or panic may cause whales to lose their way and wash up on beaches; or their disorientation may result from damage to their hearing or another aspect of their navigational sonar system.

 

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Username: Basshead86

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that is some interesting reading, pretty cool stuff.

could you imagine what a 220db sound wave underwater would feel like/do to you? lol
 

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Username: James1115

Wilton, Ct

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thats exactly what I was thinking. Like your equalibrium isnt screwed up enough under water but throw that into the mix lol.
 

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Username: Taylor17

Kopperl, Texas

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I've got it!
I'll just fill the back of my truck with water, and put a whale back there!
hahaha I feel a new world record coming on!
 

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Username: James1115

Wilton, Ct

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hahahahahahahahaha thats some funny SH!T Taylor!
 

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Username: Taylor17

Kopperl, Texas

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You know the whale in seaworld?
What would happen if you jumped in the tank with it... and he let out a nice blast of 200 DB's, just trying to have a friendly conversation?:-)
You think it would nock you out, and dround, or just kill you?
 

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Username: James1115

Wilton, Ct

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thats a pretty good question! what I wanna what I wanna know is could it break the glass?
 

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Username: Taylor17

Kopperl, Texas

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Hmmm, nother good question.
 

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Username: Taylor17

Kopperl, Texas

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I don't see why it shouldn't... unless its like bullet proof or something.
 

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Username: James1115

Wilton, Ct

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yeah it prob is.
 

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Username: Corey

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wow this thread should be named underwater dbdrag lol.
 

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Username: Taylor17

Kopperl, Texas

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Lol yeah, kind of got off the topic.
 

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Username: Idiotwithpower

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lets water proof all our subs, go diving, and have underwater spl contests. i bet you could hit alot lower notes too, lol. bye the way, I'm out in LaCrosse WI, and Soundworld out here had there anual contest and a friend of a friend got second place with just under 189 db, i never herd what first hit.
 

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Username: Taylor17

Kopperl, Texas

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Registered: Jan-05
You'd have to water proof more than the subs... how are they going to get power? lol
 

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Username: Tdisanto

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Registered: Sep-05
"Here's one at what db does your typical auto-grade glass "break"? Since we all know that front windows don't shatter like typical windows are they tougher to break? Do you have to hit a certain Hz. to break it? (I am sure everyone has heard of the high c note breaking glass)...Just wondering since were all getting so scientific...LOL"

Its not really a high C note that does it, thats just the famous example with the opera singer, lol.

You can break glass or whatever if you play a certain freq. The freq has to be the same as that of the resonant freq of the atom in the object. Basically the freq at which the atoms are moving around in the glass has to be the same as the note your playing. When this happens the glass will break.

Its not easy to do this in a car bc the glass isnt pure, it has other materials added to it, thus making it hard to match one resonant freq. when there are actually many resosant freq. to match.

In a car, it will prolly only be amplitude that will crack the glass.
 

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Username: Astrosafari

Delhi, Ontario Canada

Post Number: 76
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if there is enough pressure form the inside the glass should break, ppl i know have only either broken very large windows like rear windows or side windows in a van or there very small windows. and if there is hard enough vibrations im sure it will break.
 

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Username: Taylor17

Kopperl, Texas

Post Number: 3117
Registered: Jan-05
I'm sure if you had a whale in you're car the glass would break.:-) haha
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