Archive through September 14, 2005
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Bronze Member Username: G3n0cydePost Number: 84 Registered: Aug-05 | Turn off the switch on the back of your receiver for 5 seconds then turn it back on. Ultra runs just fine. |
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Silver Member Username: Vibr84meWinnipeg, Manitoba Canada Post Number: 154 Registered: Aug-05 | can someone confirm if we have just been hit or not? I got a call and was told that fta's are down |
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Silver Member Username: Vibr84meWinnipeg, Manitoba Canada Post Number: 156 Registered: Aug-05 | FTA N2 channels are down - they switched to the 0x96 keyset |
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gone_gone Unregistered guest | lost all gone gone |
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Silver Member Username: Vibr84meWinnipeg, Manitoba Canada Post Number: 157 Registered: Aug-05 | Its a simple key change and requires a new bin with the active key - no panic and no "the ky is falling the sky is falling" - OK!! |
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Bronze Member Username: Slo_hand2Post Number: 83 Registered: May-05 | LOL Vib but I'll bet there will be lots of chicken little's here this afternoon and tonight, meanwhile I have a hurricane to worry about lol |
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Bronze Member Username: G3n0cydePost Number: 85 Registered: Aug-05 | Vibe, msg me on msn dude |
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Silver Member Username: Vibr84meWinnipeg, Manitoba Canada Post Number: 158 Registered: Aug-05 | Im behind a firewall and cant get the latest news. If anyone starts seeing the latest file releases can you put a link on here for the rest of us - again Key change nothing more and nothing less at this time - you can see this stuff on sparkey lol - its a channel that sounds like that on dish |
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Silver Member Username: Vibr84meWinnipeg, Manitoba Canada Post Number: 159 Registered: Aug-05 | Ok so we are down - no biggie this time - but you say you want to be able to program your FTA yourself - well here goes - Cables: Most important part of programming your FTA receiver is the cable - yes the cable. Receivers require a specific cable - either a pass thru cable or a null modem cable. Both cables look the same on the outside but the way they are configured on the inside is what makes them different. The wire arrangements specifically are unique to the type of cable. The purpose of a null-modem cable is to permit two RS-232 "DTE" devices to communicate with each other without modems or other communication devices (i.e., "DCE"s) between them. To achieve this, the most obvious connection is that the TD signal of one device must be connected to the RD input of the other device (and vice versa). Also, however, many DTE devices use other RS-232 pins for out-of-band (i.e., "hardware") flow control. One of the most common schemes is for the DTE (the PC) to assert the RTS signal if it is ready to receive data (yes, it DOES sound backwards, but that's how it works), and for the DCE (the modem) to assert CTS when it is able to accept data. By connecting the RTS pin of one DTE to the CTS pin of the other DTE, we can simulate this handshake. Also, it is common convention for many DTE devices to assert the DTR signal when they are powered on, and for many DCE devices to assert the DSR signal when they are powered on, and to assert the CD signal when they are connected. By connecting the DTR signal of one DTE to both the CD and DSR inputs of the other DTE (and vice versa), we are able to trick each DTE into thinking that it is connected to a DCE that is powered up and online. As a general rule, the Ring Indicate (RI) signal is not passed through a null-modem connection. What does all this crap mean - it simply means that a null cable's wires are in a different order than a pass thru cable. Both cables are Rs232 (serial 9 pin) Common Null-Modem Connection (more crap) Signal Name DB-25 Pin DB-9 Pin DB-9 Pin DB-25 Pin FG (Frame Ground) 1 - X - 1 FG TD (Transmit Data) 2 3 - 2 3 RD RD (Receive Data) 3 2 - 3 2 TD RTS (Request To Send) 4 7 - 8 5 CTS CTS (Clear To Send) 5 8 - 7 4 RTS SG (Signal Ground) 7 5 - 5 7 SG DSR (Data Set Ready) 6 6 - 4 20 DTR CD (Carrier Detect) 8 1 - 4 20 DTR DTR (Data Terminal Ready) 20 4 - 1 8 CD DTR (Data Terminal Ready) 20 4 - 6 6 DSR |
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Bronze Member Username: G3n0cydePost Number: 86 Registered: Aug-05 | Just received report from my programmer. Bins are being re-done and fixes will be soon quickly for every receiver. This was an expected development. All good in the hood. |
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Silver Member Username: Vibr84meWinnipeg, Manitoba Canada Post Number: 160 Registered: Aug-05 | Now if you are awake after my last post - here is what you want to know: 1) Find out what cable your receiver requires to communicate to your PC - 1 of two choices - modem null or pass thru (monitor extension). 2) find out what loading software your receiver requires - everyone should post what they use and for what model so we all know and have a reference 3) Obtain the cable and the loading software (software free / cable about 10 bucks) 4) install the loading software - very easy - should be installed on your desktop for easy access. 5) get ahold of the latest bin for your receiver - most 2mb bins work on most receivers and may not have to be receiver specific - for example - all digiwave bins work on silver bullets / multistars / blackbirds / fortecs 6) once you have a bin place it on the desktop so you know where it is. 7) unless you want to do what is called a blind search (searching for all channels on a satellite) get channel master and install it. 8) find the lastest channel list and open it in channel master - you may have to use the import function. then export the file for the type of receiver bin you are using - for example - digiwave. 9) make sure the bin has been extracted - if the bin has a file extension like .rar or .zip you need winrar or winzip to extract it first. Extraction means to make the file useful as it was previously compressed to a smaller size for downloading - extract it to the desktop - why - so you know where it is. 10) now you are ready to program.... |
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RanJha Unregistered guest | OK. I have a question. What does DUAL-LNBF mean? Does that mean you can connect two receivers or does that mean you can tune to two satellites? So when somethign says 3-dual-lnbf's .. does that mean it will let 2 receiver connect to 3 satellites indivisually? and when something says dual lnbf, does it mean it'll let one receiver tune to two satellites. please explain. and if you haven't guessed, very noob  thanks. |
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Bronze Member Username: Slo_hand2Post Number: 85 Registered: May-05 | Thanks for the info MC will be "standing By" |
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Silver Member Username: Vibr84meWinnipeg, Manitoba Canada Post Number: 161 Registered: Aug-05 | to program your receiver: 1) unplug it from your audio video connections and place it near your pc (as close as needed to plug the cable in). 2) ensure the power button on the back of the receiver is off (not just the front panel) 3) plug the receiver into the AC outlet with its plug 4) plug the cable into the back of the pc and the receiver - either end. 5) start the loading software. Turn the receiver on and wait till "boot" goes away and a channel number comes up (0 thru 4000). 6)select Setup comm or set up communications and test com1 and com2. which ever com port returns the software and hardware version info is the correct one. the wrong one will give an error. you may also get an error if you are using the wrong cable or were too excited and did not wait for "boot" or "- - - -" to disappear. |
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Silver Member Username: Vibr84meWinnipeg, Manitoba Canada Post Number: 163 Registered: Aug-05 | 7) select upgrade or write bin (different on loading software) and then select the bin. Now it should start writing memory blocks and you must wait until "good" appears on your receivers display - don;t touch it until it does - this can take 5 minutes! But no longer! 8) Once 'good' appears - not 'F000' (food lol) shut the power off at the back of the receiver and count to 5. |
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RanJha Unregistered guest | I have a question. What does DUAL-LNBF mean? Does that mean you can connect two receivers or does that mean you can tune to two satellites? So when something says 3-dual-lnbf's .. Does that mean it will let 2 receivers connect to 3 satellites individually? -OR- When something says dual lnbf, does it mean it'll let one receiver tune to two satellites or two receivers connect to one satellite? Please explain. Thanks for you help. |
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RanJha Unregistered guest | I have a question. What does DUAL-LNBF mean? Does that mean you can connect two receivers or does that mean you can tune to two satellites? So when something says 3-dual-lnbf's .. Does that mean it will let 2 receivers connect to 3 satellites individually? -OR- When something says dual lnbf, does it mean it'll let one receiver tune to two satellites or two receivers connect to one satellite? Please explain. Thanks for you help. |
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Silver Member Username: Vibr84meWinnipeg, Manitoba Canada Post Number: 164 Registered: Aug-05 | now if you want a channel list without doing a blind scan - turn on your receiver again and wait till "boot" and "- - - -" disappear. Now select 'write factory data" and select the channel list from channel master that you exported. again wait till the receiver says "good" then unplug it |
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Silver Member Username: Vibr84meWinnipeg, Manitoba Canada Post Number: 165 Registered: Aug-05 | now unplug the cable and the AC power form the receiver and set it back up on your tv - you are ready to watch tv - unless you have to enter manual keys - which you will not have to do at this time! |
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Anonymous | is fortec up now or still down ?? |
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Silver Member Username: Vibr84meWinnipeg, Manitoba Canada Post Number: 166 Registered: Aug-05 | Dual LNB (LNBF) - the thingies on the end of your dish that make magic happen!!! If you have a receiver that has a loop out LNB feed you will never need a dual lnb - a single is fine. Duals are only for those people who have more than one dish and either both or one does not support loop out. If you had two dish net receivers you would need a dual lnb - if you had three dish net receivers you would need a dual lnb and a multiswitch (not a switch). Now fta - most fta's have a loop lnd out and you never need a dual lnb which cost almost twice as much a single lnb |
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Silver Member Username: Vibr84meWinnipeg, Manitoba Canada Post Number: 167 Registered: Aug-05 | DUAL LNB'S - very different than a dual lnb - notice the "'s" one means two coax cable ends the other means two actual lnb's. confused yeah i would be two - a dual lnd system means that you are using only one dish to get two unique satellites that are close enough in orbit to get them both on one dish but two separate lnb's are required - dish (119/110) and bell (91/82) |
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Silver Member Username: Vibr84meWinnipeg, Manitoba Canada Post Number: 168 Registered: Aug-05 | any direct tv or dish network/bell dish and lnd will work for fta - only the "21 switch" has to be replaced for about 15 dollars for a diseq switch - do not confuse switches with multiswitches - very different |
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Silver Member Username: Vibr84meWinnipeg, Manitoba Canada Post Number: 169 Registered: Aug-05 | Now for some real help: I own Digiwave receivers and a Twinhann PCI DVB card. I use the FTLink software to communicate to my Digiwave. The cable I use is a Null Modem Cable. I also program Multistar 2500a's and use the exact same software and cable. Can everyone who has a different receiver list what they use as far as loading software and cable - this will become our "knowledgebase" ;) |
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Silver Member Username: Vibr84meWinnipeg, Manitoba Canada Post Number: 170 Registered: Aug-05 | I don't know if anything useful is going on in the irc channels but if your arent blocked with a firewall like me could you let me know - here is one channel to try channel #a l7bar.tk (no space between the a and l) irc.uicn.net and again - what is your setup - be nice and share info and I will do the same! |
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Silver Member Username: Vibr84meWinnipeg, Manitoba Canada Post Number: 171 Registered: Aug-05 | I hate not being home to try things when we go down - does anyone have a digiwave 7000 with the version 3 bin "DIGIWAVE7000_v302b3_p230b2_0908N2_Faster_NoBug.rar" - if you do - go into system settings and resave the current keys - then see if you get all channels back - somebody told me its running fine!!! i don't believe her! |
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Bronze Member Username: Slo_hand2Post Number: 90 Registered: May-05 | vibe what is uicn chat? |
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Silver Member Username: Vibr84meWinnipeg, Manitoba Canada Post Number: 172 Registered: Aug-05 | www.mirc.com - downlaod the client and you can chat with thousands of people and share files - the server name for this one was irc.uicn.net and the chat room name is was the other i listed. Most of the fixes appear there first along with the latest news - im behind a restrictive firewall and cant do it |
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Bronze Member Username: JdqPost Number: 36 Registered: Apr-05 | Vman how do you go on irc |
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RanJha Unregistered guest | Thanks Vibr8tor Guy. Sure is confusing for someone new. I want to get a cool*sat 4000 pro and get 119/110 at the minimum (they sound popular ;)) .. but i want to keep the option open for adding a second receiver in future. What satellite LNB/LNBF/DUAL-LNB/DUAL-LNB's setup would be optimal? oh and don't forget switches.. I have seen something like : "The Cool*Sat 4000 PRO with Wave Frontier Toroidal T55 Satellite dish package includes three dual LNBF's that will allow you to point and receive channels from three different satellites at the same time. Now includes FREE 4x1 DiSEqC Switch and 9 Pin Serial Cable" Looks like a solid combo package for 420.00 and should be able to support future addon's .. or am i paying too much ? |
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Silver Member Username: Vibr84meWinnipeg, Manitoba Canada Post Number: 173 Registered: Aug-05 | being down is actually kind of good - i was told the adult programming problem was fixed so we might get those back today or tommorow when the lastest updates come out. |
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Bronze Member Username: JdqPost Number: 37 Registered: Apr-05 | Vibe I just tried to resave keys on my digi 7000 running the file you mention -does not work |
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Silver Member Username: Vibr84meWinnipeg, Manitoba Canada Post Number: 174 Registered: Aug-05 | the prices for dishes soared last week - so what ever is the lowest price is the best! now a dish is a dish is a dish - size does matter - the bigger the more satellites you get - |
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Silver Member Username: Vibr84meWinnipeg, Manitoba Canada Post Number: 175 Registered: Aug-05 | Thanks - it made no sense to me either - but i wouldnt say it doesnt till it was tested - the problem with a bin is i dont have the raw uncompiled code and cant do anything - i wish we had the emulator and the compiler / code / instruction set - then we could have some fun. Until then the coders who do are working away for all of us .... 20,000 receivers are in port - thats 20,000 x 200 or 2 million - and thats just one shipment - FTA is not a fly by night enterprise! |
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Bronze Member Username: G3n0cydePost Number: 87 Registered: Aug-05 | Like I said... This was an expected conversion. Most likely but not 100%, you will see P*RN cummm back to our TV Screens. For me, I have the Hustler channel on Rogers so life is good. Plus I have internet woo hoo. |
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Silver Member Username: Vibr84meWinnipeg, Manitoba Canada Post Number: 176 Registered: Aug-05 | God - there is no card swap!! on other forums everyone is so paranoid - no company swaps cards after one public hack - a hack that hasn;t even proved itself. The card and the stream have many goodies in their goody bags. The Rom 101 is not being swapped at this time - Dish wishes they didnt release it as it's fatal flaw was in the protection of itself not the stream - what I mean and please debate this - is: Does anyone have a way into a Dish or BEV card right now - only a handful of dealers and as of two months ago only the Rom 101 could be read and dumped. The new 102 and 103 shored up their dikes and made them a pain in the butt to get into and now the rom 102 has been dumped - don't look for it cause it's private right now - until money is made then it becomes public. End result all three ROM cards will have a long lifespan and no card swap for years - new cards yes - but not another card swap for years - 14,000,000 x .35 - four million nine hundred thousand dollars for postage at 35 cents each - over 15 million for IT development - Over 10 million for production: If i were a shareholder I would simply want them to send counter measures and not do a card swap as the stock would slow and go even lower than it already has |
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Silver Member Username: Vibr84meWinnipeg, Manitoba Canada Post Number: 177 Registered: Aug-05 | A few thing about P*rn - Im 38 next month and newly single (well i have a girlfriend - but im not married) I noticed one thing - women want to be p*rn stars - go into any club and find an 18 - 25 year old and they will do anything you tell them lol - but for real fun find a couple of hot cougars (over 30) and you will have enough video tape after one night to last at least a week! |
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Bronze Member Username: Slo_hand2Post Number: 93 Registered: May-05 | Hey Vib if you get a emulator, compiler/code/instructions let me know via msn I'd be interested too |
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Silver Member Username: Vibr84meWinnipeg, Manitoba Canada Post Number: 178 Registered: Aug-05 | ANd some more good news - the Rom 101 cards are up and running fine - so yes we are still in business - the business of being couch potatoes - dang i have to get back to the gym!!! but for now - i think i will watch House and INXS Rockstar and workout tommorow lol - Now for something comepltely different - does nay one know if you can get any HOTBIRD satellite in Canada - I dont think you can but i'd like to knwo for sure and why (to far etc) |
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Silver Member Username: Vibr84meWinnipeg, Manitoba Canada Post Number: 179 Registered: Aug-05 | Files are now circulating and forums are crashing - sorry i dont have any files yet but will keep all posted until i go home |
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Bronze Member Username: Slo_hand2Post Number: 94 Registered: May-05 | BL has stated elsewhere that the new fix will be out soon but it has not been posted as yet, beware of posts that say they have new bins if you don't know them, I understand that they have figured out how to add viruses |
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Silver Member Username: Vibr84meWinnipeg, Manitoba Canada Post Number: 180 Registered: Aug-05 | all files u get should be virus scanned - now a virus in the receiver - not good but i wouldnt worry too much about that yet - lets see if we can get some files first |
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Bronze Member Username: G3n0cydePost Number: 88 Registered: Aug-05 | I only accept bins from Vibe. |
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Silver Member Username: Vibr84meWinnipeg, Manitoba Canada Post Number: 181 Registered: Aug-05 | before u load the next bin - check your processor and memory - it should be at least a 5518 and 2mb's |
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RanJha Unregistered guest | Hey Vib, .. How does HDTV work with these systems? |
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Silver Member Username: Vibr84meWinnipeg, Manitoba Canada Post Number: 182 Registered: Aug-05 | FTA HD or dish HD - basically the same only the 60XX dish models are better quality output - but not by much - My HD FTA doesnt arrive until end of the week - but i saw it in the show room and looks good |
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RanJha Unregistered guest | Thanks. on the previous question. you said i'll never need a dual lnb with FTA. how would i add a second receiver in future.. ? |
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Silver Member Username: Vibr84meWinnipeg, Manitoba Canada Post Number: 183 Registered: Aug-05 | daisy chain it to the first FTA - only dish receivers and bell receivers require a dual lnb |
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Anonymous | Any news? yet? and why won't Fortec fix work on a Multistar? |
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Silver Member Username: Vibr84meWinnipeg, Manitoba Canada Post Number: 184 Registered: Aug-05 | if you want the latest you have to go on irc - i cant as im at work - and most forums are overloaded and are crashing - its always like this when we go down - be happy its only n2 and not all channels so you do have a few for right now - and the new fixes are testing and all is going well - but then again i am only stating what already has been |
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RanJha Unregistered guest | Thanks :D |
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Bronze Member Username: Slo_hand2Post Number: 95 Registered: May-05 | fix will be out soon!!! |
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tuneman5000 Unregistered guest | How do u know? Slo? |
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sinic Unregistered guest | VG pansat 2700a nullmodem GTRom Loader v3[1].35 [pansat2700A] Ch Editor187 (Pansat 2700A) odd how dvb-s card (after update all on channel property) says N1 stream gone on variuous channels, but formerly subbed Dich Net with Blue card still receives channels. So, does that mean Blue card is N2 rom1 ? Yellow N2 Rom 1,2 & 3. Thought that once N1 stream was gone, then Blue would not receive channels 100-299. Anyone with a link and/or help editing bin file? TIA |
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LK Unregistered guest | FTA is down!...The N2 keys which po*rn etc were on ,are now on ALL Dishnet channels..up until today,all the channels used the old N1 keys,except po*rn, some sports, and a few other channels...thats why U could get them...I said this before...This alleged FTA N2 hack has been thought of as a Temp "work around" and NOT a real hack,...we have no way to get the N2 keys like we did the N1 keys..NO real dump and way to extract the N2 keys has been confirmed ever..thats why there is much negativity regarding FTA by the real peeps..plastic is still considered to be the first real hack,if when there is one.. Thats also why I have always recommended sharing a sub...all previous hacks were leaked...that doesn't seem to be the case anymore...DTV and Dish have beefed up their security and their encryptions.. |
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paganguy Unregistered guest | we'll all see what goes down! Was going to sub the night the supposed n2 came out. Maybe i'll have to after all lol I didn't think they were going to get any of the chans back (even for a day) and they did so all I can say is give em a chance. There is a lot of $ in this and i think these peeps will try all they can to keep it coming in! Can't wait to see if they come out with new bins and if they mess up more boxes |
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paganguy Unregistered guest | have a ? I've read all kind of s*it about n2 and fta and rom 101 102 103 ect. Can anyone verify for me if there is a working rom 101,2or3 fix and was it efected by what happened today. I've only worked w/ fta since hu went down and am interested in diff avenues now. THX to anyone that has info. |
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Anonymous | Digiwave have released |
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paganguy Unregistered guest | here come all the bogus posts. Next there will be bogus files! Gotta love the game roflmao! Lets just help eachother and just b real man |
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paganguy Unregistered guest | Guess i'll spend time waiting to jtag my 2 authentic blown fortecs (at least i have one getting na*1) good luck to all! blessed be! |
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New member Username: Jspeeney011480Post Number: 7 Registered: Sep-05 | Does the autoroll feature really do what everyone says it does and automatically receive the new keys? And if it does, why doesn't it work today? Everyone is saying that they aren't getting channels. I don't understand whats going on. Please explain? |
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Deathray Unregistered guest | They changed the key and they key is not public as of yet. Thus this is perhaps a real test of this N2 hack and also why people are left staring at the black screen. As posted in the other thread... |
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tuneman5000 Unregistered guest | What's the latest? Anybody really know?? |
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ButtKicker Unregistered guest | Does the autoroll feature really do what everyone says it does and automatically receive the new keys? And if it does, why doesn't it work today? Everyone is saying that they aren't getting channels. I don't understand whats going on. Please explain? Autoroll only works for n1 keys |
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dfg Unregistered guest | What's going to happen now. only few channels are coming. Please find out new things guys. |
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WTF Unregistered guest | you wait for now.... |
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Silver Member Username: Maple_leafPost Number: 822 Registered: Apr-05 | N2 was never hacked. Was just a way around it. Now Charile has caught up. Every body needs to learn the difference between a hack and a fix. Fixes will come and go. |
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New member Username: DramousPost Number: 1 Registered: Sep-05 | that is what sayed last time too because if nag2 has been hacked we should be able to receive all channels even adults it maybe a while before someone comes up with the real hack. |
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Bronze Member Username: G3n0cydePost Number: 89 Registered: Aug-05 | OK 2 things. I have an Ultra currently running. I didn't lose all channels as previously thought. I did lose a whack of em tho. PPV, Sports, Nick etc. I still have my Gol TV. 2) There is, as of 11:30pm Sept 13, a fix for the Ultra but it was the only one that had surfaced by then. Still searching for others. Just logged in this morning. So begins another stress free day. My programmer has the fix and will be over to my place today to flash it. I will let ya know if we have any of the other "missing" channels. |
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Dave1 Unregistered guest | Vibe, thanks for the response. I'm new to room and appreciating all the advice your giving. |
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Bronze Member Username: G3n0cydePost Number: 90 Registered: Aug-05 | THIS JUST IN... I talked to a friend of mine in LA a few minutes ago. Very early there. She said that her Dish Net subscribtion is also down and Charlie gave an ETA of 3 hours to have everything back up and running. Can anyone cloer confirm that all Dish Net is down. Now I have a 281 file for Ultra but I will not load it as of yet. This may be a glitch. This could be why not all channels succumbed to the hit. Please verify if you have sub anywhere East of LA |
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New member Username: DramousPost Number: 2 Registered: Sep-05 | MC the 281 file is not working i tryed it yesterday. don't waste your time trying it it is no gooooooooood |
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Bronze Member Username: G3n0cydePost Number: 91 Registered: Aug-05 | TY Dramous, Like I said I don't install anything til I know it works. This may not be a hit afterall. Read my previous post. It seems N2 is down on sub as well. |
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LK Unregistered guest | Cannot write a bin without the keys or access to the keys..and the coders don't have any way to get the N2 keys ....and this alogrithm story is pure BS to buy time for the coders who don't have a clue what to do now...sorry,but I believe FTA and N2 are dead in the water..Plastic is the future.. Dishnet has changed all channels to N2 keys now...previously they were N1 keys (except for po*rn, some sports and few others which were N2 keys,thats why U couldn't get them)...U could get most of the channels cause they were N1 keys,but NOT now...everything is N2 keys,which requires a dump which hasn't been done by anyone yet.. |
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Bronze Member Username: G3n0cydePost Number: 92 Registered: Aug-05 | LK. I can't say I agree my friend. My friend in LA is a customer of Charlie and she is also down. letz see how this rolls OK. No speculation til will know for sure. |
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LK Unregistered guest | giver Honoured Guest Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 53 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well,so much for "coders only need emm/ecm" stuff,they simply won't respond because they can't,they'd be embarrased they can't support their products without a "magic" release. This was said before:they have nothing and it shows,now more than ever. Their chance is now,that keys have entered the stream and are available,but them coders "don't have emm/ecm" to begin with. Their excuse is "they change the algo",which is also BS,only a way to "make time" while they wait for a saviour to pop up from nowhere. Even when people know 'n2 is in the bag",and in fact have it all going,it don't seem to apply to FTA makers. They can't support their product anymore,they'd have to pay BIG bucks for dump to do this. And they are NOT doing it. |
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Bronze Member Username: G3n0cydePost Number: 93 Registered: Aug-05 | LK. Stop being so negative. Not everyone has a back-up sub or cable. C'mon be fair to those out there that only have FTA to rely on. I'm losin money on a daily basis while I wait for this damn N2 fix. I still have a lot of channels but PPV, Sports and some premiums are gone. Be positive. Even if this is the end, don't bark about it. |
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Silver Member Username: Vibr84meWinnipeg, Manitoba Canada Post Number: 185 Registered: Aug-05 | Sorry I do not have a pc at home right now and was inmeetings all morning - FTA is going to be back up - sorry LK - no gloom and doom from me - Actually files were testing as early as yesterday - and yes they did not work properly - most were garbage - but they continue to work these out and we will see the results either today or tommorow - so be patient and no more chicken littles stating the "sky is falling the sky is falling". Like I said before cost of an FTA is 150 bucks - the cost of plastic with a fix is 500. For 150 a few hiccups arent a a big deal |
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LK Unregistered guest | I warned about this for many months!....told all to seek alternative TV viewing..and even gave sites and suggestions.....maybe I'm wrong and will be the first to admit it..sub sharing is cheap and never goes down...Nobody can put all their eggs in one basket!...Nobody has to rely on FTA,and there is still FREE unencrypted channels on TRUE FTA...so don't give me that "the poor people need FTA and Dishnet, so quit bummming them out routine"....all free Tv'ers ,that all..people can live without TV if they are that poor, or do TRUE FTA, or shar a sub..I have warned for months to plan on alternatives to FTA and DN...well now is the time!....REALITY...so go stick your head in the sand and pretend ,this is not happening...that'll accomplish alot! BTW...If U're losing money daily over N2 hacks and FTA,then get a REAL job!....If U believe that TV should be free,then why are U making money from others who want Free TV...whatever U do should be free too..and if U're a dealer,then deal for free to those poor free Tv'ers..or get a real job selling real legit products.. |
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F'em all Unregistered guest | i like your post LK....if it's free then we should be all sharing, not benefitting from it. F those damn dealers. |
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New member Username: Punjavi_dooPost Number: 10 Registered: Sep-05 |  hope & good wishing aint bad, but wont give us tv on the other hand, information delievers and till now, LK has always been right |
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Bronze Member Username: G3n0cydePost Number: 94 Registered: Aug-05 | LK. You're starting again. I'm losing money on FTA sales and installs not on hacks. You really need to learn to read. I legitimately pay 200/Mth for cable/internet and have all the channels I need. Some are less fortunate. And btw, a fix is coming today from what I have been hearing. Relax and if ya got nothin nice to say, say nothin at all!!! Just don't rant on me LK. |
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Dealer Hater!! Unregistered guest | You know i agree with you guys! |
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Silver Member Username: Vibr84meWinnipeg, Manitoba Canada Post Number: 186 Registered: Aug-05 | Ok - the debate about Free Tv'ers has to end - this is the simple and udder (moo) truth: We all bought a method to view TV. We either like toys and like to play with them and became more involved in the process to manipulate the method bringing us TV or we simply heard that we could have a new toy that brings us adult movies or sports and we wouldn't have to pay for it. Now neither person is different as the end result is "YOU ARE WATCHING A SIGNAL FROM A SATELLITE INTENDED FOR SUBSCRIBERS PAYING A MONTHLY FEE". I have been in IT for over 20 years and can write code and when i was a teenager was arrested for hacking into a public utilites board computer - not for finacial gain - it was there and we had just seen War Games and decided to try. Being 14 or 15 at that time meant that you were not charged but told not to do it again. So I grew up but my quest to find out how things worked and if i could manipulate it in different ways changed. This attitude is that of a satellite hacker or pirate. Now I have never considered myself a pirate - just a guy who likes toys and wants to see whats out there - there is nothing wrong in that is there? Well yes there is if you want to stand on a soap box and be rightous - but if you are going to preach then lets ensure that you have never: 1) Cheated on your taxes. 2) Cheated on your wife. 3) Never consumed alcohol before the legal age limit. 4) Never driven after consuming any alcohol. 5) Never consumed any narcotic. 6) Never downloaded music in the U.S. (not illegal in Canada) I think you get the point... Now back to our regularly scheduled program... FTA is a choice - it's a method to get DISH or some other type of programming. There are other choices but for this forum we are talking about FTA. I do not manufacture FTA's, I do not write code FTA's, I do not sell FTA's - I do help people set satellite systems and home theatre systems up and yes I charge a small fee - usually under 100 dollars - unless i'm wiring your home theatre or building it - then its 150 an hour and usually the systems are over 100K. This is not my job but a hobby as I like toys... I will not say FTA is dead, I will not say I said this and that - And I will not say I know more than anyone else as I do not know anything right now and am constantly learning. On that i am waiting for some solution to be verified |
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Anonymous | I DON'T AGREE |
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Bronze Member Username: G3n0cydePost Number: 95 Registered: Aug-05 | Right on Vibe. |
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LK Unregistered guest | I read very well! (especially between the lines and peoples intentions)....anyone who can afford to pay U is NOT "less fortunate"..and anyone who sells makes money, so don't give me that crying "I'm losing money daily bit"..maybe your profits will go down,either live with it or find another line of work...U think U are the only one who ever was a victim of slower sales, downsizing, outsourcing etc..U are being selfish, and your true concerns are ONLY about your own income and pockets!...all along U have been plugging your inside knowledge and group,which I see was leading to lining your pockets..U have no genuine concerns for others...a blind man can see through U!....I despise salesman and cons,especially when they outright lie and smooth talk as U are doing here to the general forums here..I call a spade a spade! lets just see how much U really are in the know and your little group on inside knowledge...if NO fix today,then U're a scammer looking for self preservation! |
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Silver Member Username: Vibr84meWinnipeg, Manitoba Canada Post Number: 187 Registered: Aug-05 | On a further note I havent had cable for over 12 years and do not miss it - I hate Canadian programming and prefer US programming - thats why i love satellite - but you cant get US programming in Canada with a subscription - that and my love for toys is why I will always be a "Free - Tver" and proud of it. Now MC says he is losing money - well I am not making any extra money while FTA's are down as I install and help people for a small fee as well. I have done this for over 10 years and the extra income allows me to buy more toys (for example my girlfriends new b00bs). Just because there is money to be made from satellite does not mean the people like me and MC should be ostracized! |
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WFT Unregistered guest | vib...how does your girlfriend new b00bs like...does it look like this ( . ) (.) |
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New member Username: Fox_20_12Post Number: 3 Registered: Sep-05 | LK is right, Testing should be just a hobby! It's not so that the underpriviledged have something to watch while they sit on the couch , eat candybars and grow fat. Its not a second career. It's not a small business opportunity. A sub can be split with your buds for $25 to $30 a month.Cheap insurance!!! |
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Unregistered guest | I new it all along MC and VibratorGuy were dss leeches......... who would choose a nick like VibratorGuy???? ...... .only a pervo or an fagget man so it took a man like LK to kick the rock under where they were hiding |
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Silver Member Username: Vibr84meWinnipeg, Manitoba Canada Post Number: 188 Registered: Aug-05 | This is a typical install (oh and no reading between the lines required - oh and just so you know I support LK's opinion 100% - we need debate on this so you can make informed decisions - and no thats not me being a smart azz) - back to the install. 1) You get a call form some guy who just bought a satellite dish. A call that should just be 5 minutes in length turns into 1 hour discussing what adult channels you get - even thought they don;t watch them. 2) You get directions that are usually wrong and have to call the customer back and find out your 2 miles away in the wrong direction. 3) You arrive at a two story house even thought they said they lived in a bungalow. The south view is totally blocked by the neighbors trees even though they said it was totally clear. 4) Once you find an alernate site (unless there isnt one and the customer begins cutting down his neighbors trees - until the police arrive). 5) You find out that the customer couldn't wait for you and "assembled" the dish for you - now doubling the time - you begin to disasemble the dish and notice that parts have been substituted as he lost some down the vent in the living room. 6) You bring a cordless drill and a corded one and climb the roof or pole to mount the dish. You forget one wrench and ask the customer to pass it to you - big mistake as now he's up with you talking and asking questions and again doubling the mount time. 7) After mounting the dish and using silicone to ensure no leaks the customer's wife asks if the roof will leak and now you have to explain what silicone is - like the stuff in "fake b00bies". Yeah fake B00bies! 8) Now you have to string RG6 not the RG59 cable the customer bought and wanted to use. After ripping the cable out he bought you can string the RG6 throught the new hole you drilled in the basement - not the open window as suggested by the customer. 9) Next you have to get the cable to the receiver in the living room which by the way has new hardwood floor and you aren't alowed to drill any holes in or be killed by his wife. you manage to wire it throught the duct system and tuck the cable under the baseboards. 10) You ask for the receiver and start to connect all the connections to the AV system. You find out that all the current connections are wrong and his 5K AV receiver isn;t really putting out 5.1 but only 2 and a quarter! lol 11) after two hours of rewiring the AV system and listening to the customer tellign you how great he thinks his system is you ask for the satellite remote. Now yelling ensues as the customer and his wife argue about who last touched it and where it is. 30 minutes go by and they find it under the couch. 12) Now pointing - you either use a tv and receiver outside or a signal finder (I prefer a tv and receiver outside weather permitting). today the weather sucks and I dont have my signal finder so we do it the old fashioned way - we yell to each other! Well you know where the satellite is and you know it shouldn;t take more than 5 minutes but here it is two hours later and no signal! You find out that the customer was looking at the wrong signal meter even tho you explained it to him in detail. 13) SO now you just want to get paid and leave but the customer starts talking to you about satellites and how he has amassed this great quantity of knowledge and would like to share it with you. 14) Finally after the customer goes to the bank for cash as he forgot you said cash only - you get paid about 100 dollars for about 5 hours work. Summary: RG6 Cable (Bulk) 100 feet - 6.00 RG6 Ends (all weather) - 1.50 Silicone - 3.50 Lag Bolts - 3.00 Fuel - 15.00 Total - 29.00 Profit - 71.00 for 5 hours or 14.20 an hour! |
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BULBUL Unregistered guest | I'm watching this forum from last two days, and found nothing except the bulshits from LK, vibra8or guys and so on. rather to waste my time here i think i should check it out any other forum where ppl do some sesable talks. so good buy idiots and have fun with your no hopes and no hopes. as i heared from somewhere, ppl start watching rest of the channels, except PPV, and you guys are cooking your talks yet. have fun guys and bye.... |
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Silver Member Username: Vibr84meWinnipeg, Manitoba Canada Post Number: 190 Registered: Aug-05 | Leech - a leech is a blood sucker used to help in certain medical conditions - its cheap and does the trick - thank you Larry for compliment.. But back to reality: I make about 75 dollars an hour at my real job. From that 25 goes to child support, 38 to taxes. that leaves me with 12 per hour. I need a second income and choose something that I like - so i install and help people get set up - I charge about 100 to install and about 50 to help someone get setup - jtag, program, general understanding - and I give a guaranty for two months that if you screw something up i can have it repaired for free - a friend does the electronics as is his business. If I am ripping anyone off please let me know. Second - Home theatre - I have built alot of home theatre rooms and systems for various people - none are poor - they are very well off and I do charge 150 an hour and usually make about 15000.00 per room built or 2000.00 per system. Again: Child support 15000 - 5000 = 10000 Taxes 10000 - 6200 = 3800 Thats 3800 for 3 weeks work or about 210 hours (18 bucks an hour). |
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WTF Unregistered guest | Vib..you got screwd by your own nick name...hahahah...that's one great customer. |
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Silver Member Username: Vibr84meWinnipeg, Manitoba Canada Post Number: 191 Registered: Aug-05 | By the way FTA is back up - and no I do not have any files yet! I will let you know as I get them - As i will need testers - as well if you start to get them first please post results and files |
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Bronze Member Username: G3n0cydePost Number: 96 Registered: Aug-05 | Nag 2 bins are free. But what good is a bin if no one can buy the FTA's huh. Wow glad someone realized ppl are out there to make $$$. If you think thatz my day job, think again. I'm a PC programmer and a sales person for Ingram Micro. Downsizing didn't effect me LOL. My condolences to those who don't have the product or means of selling equipment or doing installs. Where do u think you receiver came from. Someone sold it to you. It was probably me or Vibe that sold it to you. As for making money on bins, don't agree with that. FTA means FREE to Air not PAY to Air. Anyone with knowledge of this industry knows that and also knows that there is lots of money to be made. Who would buy a FTA if there is no N2 available. I sell receivers with N2 already imbedded. Haters ignore this reply or take notice. Common sense will be your triumph!!! |
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Silver Member Username: Vibr84meWinnipeg, Manitoba Canada Post Number: 192 Registered: Aug-05 | If you want the latest news - its on IRC in various rooms . If you find out anything further please post as I cannot access IRC at work. As I get more I will publish here and put links to files as I have done before. |
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New member Username: Fox_20_12Post Number: 5 Registered: Sep-05 | congrads...... you want a cookie or something!! |
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Silver Member Username: Vibr84meWinnipeg, Manitoba Canada Post Number: 195 Registered: Aug-05 | If you can get on dsstester have a look in the files section - apparently there are new ones there to test - I cant get on as the server is overloaded right now |
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