Archive through March 19, 2005
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Anonymous | I can confirm that a cemu based emulation has been able to successfully operate Dish/Echostar with Nagra2. Check it out at dishstar.tv Im not a salesperson,infact I have nothing to do with them other than I use their equipment/service. Im sure few will believe this claim!Im skeptical/novice. Is Nagra2 the same as what DTV uses or not????? |
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jeeez Unregistered guest | That last question made your post loose what little credibility you had |
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Anonymous | I took a look at the link provided,it looks like it is legit. Nagra2 IS NOT what Direct tv uses but probably along the same lines.If this Nagra2 FIX was for real,it would be hard to imagine that DTV would not be next. |
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skippy Unregistered guest | Nagra2 and the P4/D1 are completely different. There is nothing on the site that says they have a "fix" for nagra2. It says it is "nagra2 ready". If you look around at different FTA sites that is a common caption but does not mean it will decrypt the stream. There is no hack for nagra2 presently. If there was all the expressvu people would be getting their NFL Sunday Ticket. So mr. anonymous, just what Nagra2-only channel on dishnetwork can you confirm you can get????? |
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Anonymous | Honestly Skippy,I just wanted some feedback about what it all meant.I am pretty sure that they are worried about the end coming soon.I guess the end really is near.They sent all their customers emails suggesting that their system will go on once the Nagra 2 card exchange is done.I never believed it,just wanted to get some thoughts.Thanks |
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skippy Unregistered guest | The card will be compromised before any firmware upgrade will be made available to the FTA's or emulation software for dishnet. The card has been around for a couple years now and no hack so there's no guarantee there will be in the near future. Until you see proof the card is hacked don't believe any claims of "Nagra2 Ready" ird's. Take it easy. |
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New member Username: CancomPost Number: 1 Registered: Oct-04 | Nagra2 is real and emulation is going to be the best solution as usual. If you need max&mel emulation info, parts or pc boards I have a few left. |
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New member Username: MrdssPost Number: 1 Registered: Nov-04 | Nagra 2 is being working great on the 3 channels that is being broadcasted on my max 2000 which i purchased from saveandreplay! works amazing |
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vanejorg Unregistered guest | Any confirmed working emulation for Nagra 2 will come with the "working" Rom 10x.bin file(much like what was done with the rom3,10 & 11.bins in the past). If anyone has the rom10x working with emulation it will come with no requests for the purchase of equipment or for "almighty cash". The file will simply be available for download in a host of web sites(as the above discussed files were in the past) at no charge. Once the file is downloaded, you simply place it in your cemu folder(my apologies because this is where my knowledge breaks down....they MAY have to make modifications to the cemu.exe and/or the cemu.ini and dish.bin file to accept the new rom10x.bin...not sure about this) or other emulation programs and start the program. Shortly, thereafter you should be watching tv. If such a file exists I would like to be able to test this....so "anonymous" and others... where do I download this file from? Thank you. |
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New member Username: MrdssPost Number: 7 Registered: Nov-04 | nagra2 is WORKING on the Max 2000 receiver already, the whole idea of nagra 2 is to knock out all the rom cards by spring! I have tested the max 2000 with the files from saveandreplay.com and i am getting nagra 2 channels 3 that are being broadcasted! |
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New member Username: MrdssPost Number: 8 Registered: Nov-04 | i am getting NFL sunday ticket with the max 2000! |
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New member Username: VanejorgPost Number: 1 Registered: Nov-04 | john drake: Forgive us for being skeptical, but if the rom10x.bin file from saveandreplay(incidentally, I have been to their web site and there are no files to download.....see my previous post)are actually working, then please share a copy so that I may test it with my 2700. Thank you. |
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New member Username: Sat21Post Number: 1 Registered: Nov-04 | I have seen the site, but their are no files. Must be in the paid forums. I would like some proof, they want $55 through paypal. Maybe if something were given to a mod to test... Also it could be a great way to get one of those dreaded letters. |
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anonymousss Unregistered guest | nagra 2 emulation is bullsh!t. nagra 2 uses an asic (like the H Hu and P4) in order to emulate it you need use an aux card. You can't emulate an asic. Save your $ |
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Anonymous | please explain what asic is? |
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Anonymoussss Unregistered guest | application specific integrated circuit. basicly a chip in the smartcard responsible for encryption. specific data is sent into it and a different specific value is returned, it is nearly impossible to break its encryption and predict the value to be returned. |
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New member Username: Sat21Post Number: 2 Registered: Nov-04 | Yes, but wasn't the H Card ASIC as well? It was hacked. However the HU was ASIC but never fully hacked, thats where the glitching came in. Thats about all I know. Why would you need a card to emulate N2 and what does the chip on the card being ASIC have anything to do with the camless boxes? I do know tha Nagra is completely different than videoguard. |
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Anonymoussss Unregistered guest | Not saying that emulation of Nagra 2 isn't possible, just saying claims of emulation using *.bin files, camless boxes, or emu boards isn't possible without an aux card. |
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Anonymous | Saveandreplay are scammers, i just payed the $55 and their is nothing for nagra 2 |
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Tester2U Unregistered guest | Saveandreplay is a run by well known scammers There is no hack for N2.. The max 2000 is a blackbird and the developers of that box can't hack nagra 2 so how is some dumbass indian with a mail box in Don Mills Ontario gonna do it.. they lie about where they are hosted, they lie about what they sell.. they're lying scammers.. but there are lots of stupid people out there for them to scam :-) |
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rt Unregistered guest | I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHATS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE,DO YOU ENJOY GETTING BURN'T FOR YOUR HARD EARNED CASH?? DON'T YOU GUYS NO ANY BETTER. THESE SITES ARE A DIME A DOZEN AND GO UP AND DOWN EVERY DAY, PREYING ON YOU.IF IT SOUNDS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE, IT PROBABLY IS. GO TO A LEGIT SITE AND ASK FELLOW TESTERS FOR ADVICE.....PEACE ALL |
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JTK Unregistered guest | john drake post the files please so we can settle this once and for all. If you don't we know you are a scammer too. I will post your name and save and replay info all over the net. |
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jon drake suks Unregistered guest | he'll never post a file cuz he's full of sh!t, he's just a punk a$$ biotch that works for saveandreplay. click on his profile and see what his homepage is. next he'll be tryin to sell a p4 fix. unbelievable how low people will go to earn (steal) a buck. |
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Not Likely Unregistered guest | LOL he is probaly testing the fta receiver with dish as they have not gone to nagra 2 with these channels as of yet |
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New member Username: EmilPost Number: 1 Registered: Nov-04 | can any one tell me where can i find/purchase working nagra 2 key. i use Skystar2 (BC2C Broadband Reciver PCI Adapter). tnx [; |
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Anonymous | hunt him down and kill him |
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New member Username: AshekillerSan diego, CA USA Post Number: 1 Registered: Nov-04 | I'm new here and to the entire scene. I just found my timewarner box a few minutes ago and my home alrady had the satelite and wires installed whem i moved here. So could some of you kind people shed the light on what i have to do and what all this talk about niagra and others is. What is required? |
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jfk Unregistered guest | Got this info from another site it should make thedssguy and a few others very very happy. I have been contacted by a new manifacture of FTA and will recieve a couple of units next week for testing. I can not tell you many of the things that they claim at this time as I have told them I want to see this and test it befor I release all the information. I can tell you the new reciever has the following specs. s Fully DVB-S / MPEG 2 Compliant (4mgs Flash Memory) s Powerful single chip: STi5518 s Multi-Language OSD s Fashionable and friendly OSD sPAL-NTSC Auto-conversion System sDiSEqC1.2, Voltage (14/18V), Tone (22K) and 0/12V LNB Switching Support s Automatic Search for Transponders and Channels s Timer function Support s Multi-language OSD (English, German, Italian, Spanish, French, Portuguese Expandable) sElectronic Program Guide (EPG) and VBI Teletext Suppor s A/V Output through SCART, RF modulator or A/V Cable s RF Modulator for TV standard (PAL B/G/D/I/K, NTSC) s Picture in Graphics (PIG) support 4 different software compatible s More than 5000 Channels Memory Space Now with that I will also let you know they claim this unit is currently doing Nag 2 !! and the software is now available, they have provided me with a link to the software and have shipped two units on Monday the Units are the 6018B and the 5000. The 5000 has built in HD and DVDRburner. The Retail I will get to you later. I am being told the 6018B is also currently running the latest Blacklist 237 bin with no problems ? So much for Blacklist and the no can use feature If all proves true as they claim this is the best news to come out in a long time. Again I stress I have not seen these units but have been promised the chance to test them next week. I am having a hard time with all this as it comes as a shock that Nag 2 is done but they swear they are watching now. So if the P4 hack is out there i guess they have lost and can keep it now. Remember don't take this as gospel there's still testing to be done before the facts will be released just keep your fingers crossed. __________________ Dave.........Resistance is futile ! you will be assimilated and your distinctiveness will become part of this collective. |
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Anonymous | well no matter what anyone says, there is some serious progress going on in Spain. Now I dont know spanish, but I've seen some programs that read some data from the cards. we are getting closer. we might even be able to get nagra2 up before the big switchover in september  check out dsscentral.net (not a dealer) (click on file archive, then nagra,then nagra2) |
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key largo Unregistered guest | Strong hopes and rumors about nagra 2 ARE flowing,I too think we're close...also a DTV flash is being rumored. |
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New member Username: VanejorgPost Number: 2 Registered: Nov-04 | ....they have provided me with a link to the software.... jfk, could you provide this link to us please. I would like to be able to test these emulation files on my 2700 receiver. I can let everyone know within 10 minutes of acquiring these files if they work(no need to wait two weeks or whatever it will take for you to get this receiver) Keep in mind that right now the only channels which require you to have the Nagra 2 card(in order for them to operate) is the High Definition ones. If the described receiver is working with the HD channels and it can be proven that it(the card or software within the receiver) is not just simply a "clone of a subscription" then we might have something there. Please send files or link by clicking on my user profile. Thank you |
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no need tooo Unregistered guest | I have a P5 hack from an Indian reservation north of Montreal. They have a programmer there that uses some sort of "crystal emulation" mode that works only with the P5s. As it was explained to me, the P5 differs significantly from the P4 in how the crystal can be "flashed", and the programmer they have there has worked around it by mirroring signals to and from the card. Through some form of emulated looping, they are able to trick the card into accepting scripts from the loader. I'm not an expert on this, but have a working card with full access. They have contact information available on the web. |
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no need too BS here ! Unregistered guest | I read that many times "No Need Too" tell us this BS again ! |
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Spot the good post Unregistered guest | wonderful read... There is a 100% working N2 hack. It's called subscription. EVERYTHING else is a scam. PS. It's funny to read these threads cause they're the same type of threads when DTV went to the P4/5. |
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gnillups Unregistered guest | Even if a DNASP102 103 was COMPLETELY understood, receiving channels without sub would be impossible. It goes way beyond the Nagra2 card (which is a house of mirrors within a house of morphing mirrors). There is no way in hell Nagra2 will be working for MANY years to come (if ever) unless you are a sub. PERIOD! Now go sub since its the right thing to do anyway ! |
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largo key Unregistered guest | While not confirmed, there are now rumor in German discussion forums circulating that the CCC (Chaos Computer Club in Germany) might have broken Nagra2 aka Aladin. Nagra2 is being used in germany by Premier. Again, while there is no proof, only when it is released it can be considered available so until then... Here is the summary of some posting as of December 07, 2004: "nagra 2 cracado h@cker de Hamburgo tem os codigos de decriptagem do novo sistema da premiere e informou os jornais alemaes disso, diz ainda que este sisteme foi ainda mais facil de cracar que o antigo sistema da premiere o betacrypt. O seu novo programa calcula as keys automaticamente e funciona logo que a premiere faz a mudanca de keys Pode nao ter exactamente as mesmas palavras , mas tentei por , um pouco do sentido da traducao de modo a ser compreensivel em portugues " ESTO LO ACABO DE SACAR DE UN FORO PORTUGUES, COMENTABAN QUE UN h@ckER ALEMAN A CONSEGUIDO ABRIR LA CUEVA DE ALADINO ESTA TRADUCIDO AL PORTUGES DE ESTO OTRO: Nagra 2 Premiere nevertheless cr@cked. h@cker from Hamburg have the new coding system of Premiere simple can cr@ck and let a German newspaper know. The hamburger claimed that the new Nagra 2 are still more easily coding system of Premiere to cr@ck as the old Betacrypt coding system. Already a programme in turn that the new coding codes have been calculated automatically. When Premiere the new keys sent, its these already confessed at the illegal viewer." ----------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------- Nagra 2: Boxkey Experiment Backgound: In our previous experiment we discussed the CONTROL words used in Nagra 1 and Nagra 2 and proposed a "thought" experiment whereby one could conclusively determine if the CONTROL words are the same for both streams. We introduced the IDEA encryption algorithm and suggested that this is the cryptographic technique used with Nagra 2. Without attempting the actual experiment, we concluded based on bandwidth considerations alone, that the same MPEG-2 stream is being used for both Nagra 1 and Nagra 2 (i.e. - the provider would be foolish to use twice as much video bandwidth to transmit the same pictures to us---satellite bandwidth costs hundreds of millions of dollars). Based on this, we concluded with a great deal of certainty that the CONTROL words (which are used to "put together" the decoded MPEG-2 packets) were the same. Of course, with Nagra 1, we know that the CONTROL words are encrypted using the cryptographic algorithm called DES. We also know the Key0 and Key1 which is used with DES. Thus, we have no problem decrypting the CONTROL words for the Nagra 1 stream. What about the Nagra 2 stream? We surmised that the NAgra 2 stream uses the encryption algorithm known as IDEA with different keys, namely IKey0 and IKey1 which are unknown to us, but must reside somewhere in the EEPROM of the Nagra 2 cards. But why are we justified in assuming that IDEA is the encryption being used for Nagra 2? The answer is that "this is what the experts" think! Not good enough...we need to be absolutely certain. We need to prove this! The following experiment will help us make sense out of the Nagra 2 encryption being used and also shed some light on the location of the boxkeys used by Nagra 2. Requirements: -a subbed Nagra 2 system -a Nagra 1 system -two dataloggers; one for Nagra 1 setup and 1 for Nagra 2 setup -copy of: "Applied Cryptography", By: Bruce Schneier (IDEA is outlined on page319 / DES is outlined on page270) Experiment: Okay, we know from Nagra 1 that before the card gives the CONTROL words to the receiver for processing, it encrypts them using DES and the receiver's 8 byte boxkey. This is the same boxkey you all enter into your ROM cards, etc. This occurs when a command $13 is issued. It is very likely that Nagra 2 encrypts the CONTROL words using IDEA before it sends them to the receiver. But, what does it use for the boxkeys? The same boxkeys as the Nagra 1 cards? Remember, IDEA requires a keylength of 16 bytes, whereas the original boxkeys we all know about are only 8 bytes long. If we knew what boxkeys are being used for Nagra 2, then theoretically, we could decrypt both the CONTROL words for Nagra 1 and NAgra 2 and compare to see if they are the same! If they are, then we have found the boxkeys used by Nagra 2, confirmed that 16 byte IDEA is being used and are well on our way to decrypting Nagra 2 video. Clearly, the 16 byte boxkeys being used must reside somewhere on the receiver firmware. We can easily dump the firmware and store the hex values in a text file. Now, write a high level C program that implements the IDEA algorithm. See Schneir for the mathematical details -- the coding should be straight forward. Next, write a routine that takes 16 bytes from the firmware dump and tries to use that as the boxkeys for Nagra 2. Try decrypting the Nagra 2 CONTROL words and see if they match the ones we know from Nagra 1. IF they don't match, try different bytes from the firmware dump. Keep trying! Most likely, the boxkeys for IDEA will be near or adjacent to the serial number of the card in the firmware! Also, compare the dumps of 2 different subbed Nagra 2 systems (with the exact same subscription). Where the dumps differ is most likely the location of the boxkeys! Before you can try this, you will need to log the NAgra 1 and 2 streams and tune into the same channel simultaneously. Log a few command $13 packet responses and their corresponding Nagra 2 responses SIMULTANEOUSLY. If someone is willing to do this and post it for us, it would make it a lot easier to proceed with our Boxkey experiment! Feedback from all the experts in this hobby would be greatly appreciated! Good Luck! |
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New member Username: Nyc_alienStaten island, Ny Us Post Number: 2 Registered: Dec-04 | is BlackBird MAX 2000 NAGRA 2 READY better than pansat 2500a? Also whats the difference between them? |
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New member Username: Mangera80Miami, Fl Usa Post Number: 1 Registered: Dec-04 | o.k folks I am a new user and need to know the following: 1) what downloads are required. 2) what site to visit. 3) what hardware is required |
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New member Username: DtvphPost Number: 1 Registered: Nov-04 | John Drake's BS stunt just got Saveandreplay kicked off my site. Good Job Dumb A$$ Admin |
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Anonymous | A pansat 3000 is nagra2 ready not to be confused with being able to now decrypt nagra 2, You best bet is to go to reputable forum's such as And others and read there new's, if someone has a hack for any card you will read about it, you wont get an answer from spam and these sites who look like a 2 year old designed it. |
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Anonymous | IN A NUTSHELL. IS THERE ANY HOPE TO HACK INTO N2 ANYTIME SOON ? |
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Anonymous | IN A NUTSHELL. IS THERE ANY HOPE TO HACK INTO N2 ANYTIME SOON ? |
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Just a note Unregistered guest | I have bought the max 2000 system aswell as john drake and I'm receiving the nfl sunday ticket aswell as too other channels. It works great so far. I don't work for the saveandreplay company or even know what they are about I bought my system on ebay. Because a friend told me that he was getting the sunday ticket. Thats why I got it and the way i figure it is if i get the sunday ticket I'll make back my $250.00. Keep throwing out the ideas all and good luck. |
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no worries Unregistered guest | has a p-4-5 fix right now |
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largo key Unregistered guest | scam...hoax |
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Thief Like all of you Unregistered guest | All I can say, is when Nagra2 is in full force on BEV and DISH, you're all gonna be paying for your TV. Who cares though, 10 years ago everyone was paying for TV. You'll get over it. Nag2 wont be hacked. Just like the P4, everyone thought it was hacked, until the HU stream was shutdown, and they all realized there was no more free TV, and no P4 hack to replace their HU. Until I see some real evidence of a NAG2 hack, I wouldnt believe any posts placed in this little $h!t thread. |
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Anonymous | All I can say, is when Nagra2 is in full force on BEV and DISH, you're all gonna be paying for your TV. Who cares though, 10 years ago everyone was paying for TV. You'll get over it. Nag2 wont be hacked. Just like the P4, everyone thought it was hacked, until the HU stream was shutdown, and they all realized there was no more free TV, and no P4 hack to replace their HU. Until I see some real evidence of a NAG2 hack, I wouldnt believe any posts placed in this little $h!t thread ================================================= To come up with predictions like that, I think you smoke crack mixed with $h!t !!! |
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Bart Simpson Unregistered guest | hes bitter cus he dont get any xmas presents |
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Anonymous | p4/p5 is hacked, so is nagra2. Have seen it with my own eyes. unfortuanatly, the person who cracked it is unknown to me, and I cant get any more info besides the fact that I seen them both working fully opened, which leaves the hope that something public will pop up soon. |
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Try This ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Unregistered guest | Joey Smith Registered guest Posted on Monday, December 27, 2004 - 09:50 pm: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Don't let an "anonymous" jerk mislead you. I have been using the files and programmer from for almost two months and they have worked flawlwessly. Now I can watch all my favorite PPV movies and all NFL games, and even the nudie channels !!! Finally theres something that really works. |
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Anonymous | GET LOST WITH UR ZYWORLD BS> SCAMMER |
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Anonymous | No P4 or Nag2 Hack anytime soon....time to sub. I'll miss my po-r-nos  |
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fashizzle Unregistered guest | i dont know, something is brewing over at satspies with a ppv wiper. |
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Bronze Member Username: No_bserPost Number: 19 Registered: Aug-04 | nothing is going on over at satspies with a ppv wipe, guaranteed. and this nagra2 is a hoax. you peeps that spend your $ on this site, i wish you all the best because you deserve to lose it. |
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Anonymous | i have skystar2 dvb card and i watch satelite on my pc. is there a way to watch channels with nagra2 ? please tell me |
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Anonymous | Hi Guy, I am new at this. I would like to purchase a Fortec Lifetime Ultra, but before I do that I would like to be sure about a couple of thing? At the moment I am on Bell express vu, I know that the NFL channels as well as the Plyboy channel are running on Rom 102, and that every subscriver to bell express vu will be receiving a new card, if not already done. I would like to know if the people using the mention above receiver with the bell express vu channel receive all NFL channels as well as the Plyboy Channel. The plyboy channel (780 and venus preview 749) are the last 2 channels that bell put on rom 102. This can be an indication if this system really works. I would really appreciate a feedback. Thanks. |
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Bronze Member Username: TestbabyPost Number: 14 Registered: Aug-04 | Anyone that say's they have a a Nag2 fix working or has seen it are fucking retards. There is no fix for Nag2 or DTV...so fuck off people and quit saying there is...go play with your noodles until the fix comes out...lol |
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Bronze Member Username: TestbabyPost Number: 15 Registered: Aug-04 | Anyone that say's they have a a Nag2 fix working or has seen it are fucking retards. There is no fix for Nag2 or DTV...so fuck off people and quit saying there is...go play with your noodles until the fix comes out...lol |
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Bronze Member Username: TestbabyPost Number: 14 Registered: Aug-04 | Anyone that say's they have a a Nag2 fix working or has seen it are fucking retards. There is no fix for Nag2 or DTV...so fuck off people and quit saying there is...go play with your noodles until the fix comes out...lol |
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abdul Unregistered guest | testbaby, are you retarded? retarded? retarded? |
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Smeagal Unregistered guest | Such optimism!!!!!!! |
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Bronze Member Username: Knee_growDetroit Post Number: 14 Registered: Jan-05 | Stupid Idiots summed it up pretty good....no fix for Nag2 yet fucko's...get over it |
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largo key Unregistered guest | The present Nagra1 system and the card image on the ROM cards is what FTA IRDs use for duplicating the decryption process. This is done by copying the ROM image to the FTA unit's EEPROM, very much like writing to a card. BUT, because the IRDs EEPROM can only be accessed by the serial port connected directly to a computer, that means that the EEPROM code cannot be changed through the stream like what happens when DN sends down an ECM and screws up the card. This makes FTA units very stable and less prone to ECMs and TV just keeps going and going. What's important about Nagra2 is that it's more secure of a card and harder to access. However the Nagra2 ROM image can still be used on an FTA IRD, providing that the IRD has adequate memory and hardware functionality to support the new Nagra2 system. The good news is that Nagra2 has been hacked. This guarantees that FTA will be around a long time. I am not 100% certain what this means to all present FTA IRD owners. In the case of Pansats, the 2500 will need a minor chip replacement, which shouldn't be more than $100 to get the 2500 Nagra2 capable. The chip will be ready when Nagra2 is ready and Nagra1 is no longer in the stream. I believe that the older 2300 IRDs may not even need this mod to be capable of dealing with Nagra2. The new model 5000 won't need any modification and based on what I believe is good information, Dave will be in for a surprise very soon too and there won't be diddly he can do about it except to change out all the cards once again. The new Model 5000 will be capable of decrypting either Dave or DN but not both as I understand it. The days of hashing are going to be a thing of the past. It may take a little time to tweak the bins written to the IRDs but it won't be long until Dave runs out of options. My theory is that the ASIC HAS BEEN CRACKED. I can't see any other way of doing it. But, if I really knew for sure, I'd be in jail now. Just stand by. The coders are the best in the world. Nagra2 is absolutely hacked. I have that from the very people that have done it and are watching nagra2 now. I hear there are some small issues but nothing big, like a few SOBC msgs or the like because I think they are testing with the 2300, maybe the 5000HC. For all I know they were using plastic in a card slot someplace, but who cares? |
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FuBevNChrle Unregistered guest | It is no longer a matter of ______ or ______ the new Nagra cards but with a little help from friends in the east there is a way to make a whole new card using the same nagra encryption that is now being used by the sat companies ? with of course 1 exception the ability to examine the contents of the card Well the card was ordered with that exception ( a perk so to speak ). |
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Anonymous | You people that are and will be out of pornosexo channels when N2 is final,Just what will you miss the most? those big big juicy dripping uncut DickcocksRods-? yum yum I know I sure will miss them too,but you can find lots of big hard juicy uncut -PetercockRods- right around your own town if you look around a little.As far as (PussyholecuntDrippers-),well thjere's lots of (-PussycuntHoles-) on the regular channels just no BIG giant hard juicy uncut (%HarddickcockNuts$)! oohh well I will and you too,find the BIG hard juicy uncut (&DickHardcockCum#) elsewhere. |
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LK Unregistered guest | Mods!...do U call these posts INFO,as U advertise on your home page ads "INFORMATIVE" DSS message boards?...CLEAN it up,or lose members..and posters buying from your sponsors! |
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mikey the guest Unregistered guest | anyone seen this? whats your thoughts thanks. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem%26item%3D5746926388 |
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No Nag2 FTA Unregistered guest | largo key, I have to disagree w/ your above post on Fta and Nag2. Even if the card was fully compromised as you say the fta's still won't work. Reason being is the asic. But the asic has been hacked you say. The H card asic still hasn't been cracked yet and it was made almost a decade ago. The new asic designs are much tougher to crack. And if it were to be cracked, it mould take a much more powerful processor than what's in these recievers now to decode it in real time. Another problem with this is channel tiers. The fta stores it's channel tiers in the eeprom. As most of you know the eeprom on these recievers has to be updated via the serial cable connected to the pc, That's why these recievers can't be ecm'd. Nagra 2 channel tiers must be updated constantly in order for you to keep your channels. Channel updates come from the data stream, since fta's eeprom can't take datastream writes you'd have to update the tiers manually (serial cable to pc) I believe the nag 2 hack will come in the form of an emulator with an aux card. The pc will handle the calls to the bin (channel authorization) and the aux card will handle calls to the asic (video decription). But for any of this to happen the card must be dumped to see how it ticks. |
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Ballsdeep! Unregistered guest | Now were talking! Nagra 2 is alot closer to being comprimised then P4/p5. On nagra 2 there are many scripts and readers,etc that can change things on the nagra 2 cards.P4/P5 you can not.There is a future for Nagra 2. |
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LK Unregistered guest | FYI..Kneegrow is Stupid idiots aka testbaby |
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yes he is Unregistered guest | yes its true |
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DTV customer service rep. Unregistered guest | Folks, I just want to let you all know, Nagra 2 has not being hacked 100%!!. Among us debate here are people from end users, scammers, DTV's employee. You all better watch out for the scammers !! |
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New member Username: CarelectronicsPost Number: 4 Registered: Jan-05 | I have come accross a Great Deal for Atmega 128 Cards. I can offer the Following Deal: 1 x Atmega 128 + Programmer + Files & Software for the Amazing Low Price of $44.99 USD Shipped to your Door. Beneath, I am posting up a link. All you have to do in order to purchase an Atmega 128 + Programmer + Files & Software for 44.99 Through PayPal, is COPY & PASTE the following link in the Address Bar of your internet borwser. HERE IS THE PAYPAL PAYMENT LINK: http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclick&business=GiacDS@sympatico.ca&item_name=1--AT--RG&item_number=103&amount=44.99 *** VERY IMPORTANT *** LEAVE THE MESSAGE BOX ON THE PAYPAL PAYMENT PAGE EMPTY ! YOU MUST LEAVE THE MESSAGE BOX EMPTY OR YOUR TRANSACTION WILL NOT BE PROCESSED ! I REPEAT, DO NOT WRITE ANY TEXT IN THE MESSAGE BOX ON THE PAYPAL PAYMENT PAGE ! CONTACT e-Mail: carelectronics@sympatico.ca THANK YOU |
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T-1000 Unregistered guest | COME WITH ME IF YOU WANT TO WATCH. |
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kelso70 Unregistered guest | You Bet, Use Pay-Pal to buy testing equiptment! Then Pay-Pal turns over any records to both Charlie & Dave. They work together! ANY THING FOR A $$$$$ |
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kelso70 Unregistered guest | You Bet, Use Pay-Pal to buy testing equiptment! Then Pay-Pal turns over any records to both Charlie & Dave. They work together! ANY THING FOR A $$$$$ |
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Anonymous | oohh johnny pie.Nigra is broked with Little jiffy TV watcher 4227 and can you buy some for $14.95 plus ship in truck or nice airplaane is aweful fast way to get Little Jiffy 4227 when your dickie get hard and want see big one dickie working in skin flicks see juice drip out from big johnny rods again,order your Little Jiffy TV watcher 4227 today on Ebay. |
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Anonymous | Do NOT buy the MAX 2000 from saveandreplay It is NOT Nagra 2 ready. I ordered a MAX2000 with forum support from this seller, I got the receiver but after several email requests no response from this seller so I have no software. I ended up with a receiver with no decrypting software. It's too late to find out they are scammers but I hope other people won't step into their traps. |
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LK Unregistered guest | they are known SCANMMERS for a long time...its been posted here for months,had U read ...shame on you,should ALWAYD do your homework before U buy ANYTHING from ANYWHERE! BTW...report them to www.satscams.com ...they expose all scammers and annoy them too ..also U can dispute the charges if on a credit card...just say U never got the product AND never ordered anything AND never heard of them.. |
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Player69 Unregistered guest | anyone that claims there is a working nagra2 hack is a fookin' liar and they just want your money because they offer no proof whatsoever...as we near the end of piracy in north america...ie...usa..canada..we'll see more and more claims because they want to squeeze as many last dollars from us that they can all you newbies that are just getting into this..if you spend anymore money than it costs for an atmega card $25 and its programmer $12..then you are an idiot and should be judged as one....if you use any kind of plastic..ie...credit..debit cards...to buy dss pirate ANYTHING..you deserve to get your self a nice lil' demand letter because you are too stupid to be doing this to begin with ive been into this about 7 years now...just reading about it of course,and the end is trully near and all the praying and wishing will get you nothing ive read countless of posts about how someone saw this or that but it always ends up with them saying they dont know who to contact about the hack and all that horse sh it....... i attribute these types that want your last dollar akin to the ones that drive their pickup trucks filled with water jugs to natural disaster area and sell a gallon of water for $10 or more..they are leeches who only want your money and give you little or nothing in return now..for you old timers...hitec...that fookin' loser..is in the process of giving depositions right now up in british columbia and he is ratting out all his admins,mods,and anyone that used a credit or debit card to buy anything from him in order to save himself and the new home he built with proceeds from piracy the testing community was never about "family" it was always about unbridled greed and the extent anyone would go to to make a dishonest dollar..i understand his estranged lover...gs2..will be testifying against him and has already given law enforcement former emails and pm's the two shared that will be sued against him when this goes to court..gs2 has avoided jail because his middle name is RAT and got/gets immunity deals if he doesnt go to court and you dont hear the results of the outcome,its because they both made deals to rat others out to save themselves |
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Anonymous | man so many sad people whos life depend on nothing better than watching free tv is like a crack addiction to you all. maybe its not the card thats the problem but the reciever. the card may only be a key with all the firmware updates forced on every reciever with no change to programing except the new stream sort of makes sence that maybe just maybe some on should look in the box and not the card. Maybe its all a big smoke screen and now all the programing is in the eprom chips and the card is the key to the eprom |
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Tato's Unregistered guest | I just subscribed to bell for the first time in 5 years haha.. free came to an end for me.. I will pay for it until there is a sure crack for Nagra 2.. i can wait, summer is coming.. As long as it is cracked before the NHL and NFL start up in 2005 im good to go. then it will be call bell and put me on the lowest plan till my 12 month subscription is up time lol |
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Anonymous | get the key fix here |
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Anonymous | ya whatever thats just a site to get real tv not the hack stuff. |
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Unregistered guest | I am new to this sort of stuff but was wondering if someone could tell me what channels are affected by the Nagra2 on Bell |
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phouque U Unregistered guest | the end is near fellas...sorry to admit it but its true. the only way to crack it is if some disgruntled employee walks out of chuck headquarters with a disc in his jacket.... |
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satguy Unregistered guest | The claim of cemu running nagra2 is not true the only thing you can do with it is use a rom10 image to spoof the rom102 atr in hopes to log some of the commands. It will put you in the nagra2 stream and you will get the preveiw channels and possibly the music channels but that is all you will get right now. You would have to have a full dump as well as the encryption and op codes inorder to do a full emulation of rom102. Which many have stated here we do not have access to yet. So all claims to having a working nagra2 hack is fake and a scam. |
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Unregistered guest | forgive me, i perhaps am just dumb, and i am not compleatly certian what the nagra2 encryption is, i assume its the card swap currently being held my BEV which also leads me to beleave that i will be screwed with my 2700 soon. However, with all the card readers, system checkers, and the incredably vast working knowlage of the system hardware, should it not be reletivly easy to reverse engioneer the system? i mean really, if its a 16bit encryption, that should make it easy enough, but that aside... wouldent the currently owned systems (ligit and not alike) hardware have to be able to decrypt it with reletive ease, only software updates to the eprom right.... could you not simply check out a ligit system, see the new software, and reverse engioneer it from there? I am sure this has all been tryed, and i am way out of my elemit, but i am just hopeing beyond hope that my tv programing is not lost to the tyronts of the corprate world... trying to stay Constructive, not destructive Sirius Darkamber "No beer and No tv make sirius sumthin.... somthin" |
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sabre tooth Unregistered guest | I have heard that dish will be using N1 for at least 6 more months. I have bev at the moment and only can put up one dish at my condo. If I want to get dish with some ppv and stuff what Sat should I aim at and what will I lose not having the other dish? Is there a list of channels on the net somewhere or can anyone out there help me? Thanks S.T. |
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LK Unregistered guest | Obviously U haven't bothered to READ for 10 minutes ANYWHERE!...If U're too lazy to READ,then don't bother!...U're questions are answered HERE 1000x already and they're posted everywhere HERE and OTHER sites.. DISH aim...110-119 SATELLITES FOR DISHNETWORK! channels....GO TO lose?..depends on your 1 dish and how many/type LNB's |
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sabre tooth Unregistered guest | Lk Who died and made you king of the a$$holes if you think i,m lazy shut your yap and don,t answer my post dichead. there are thousands of posts on the site and I just asked a simple question so again buzz off loser S.T. |
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sabre tooth Unregistered guest | Lk Who died and made you king of the a$$holes if you think i,m lazy shut your yap and don,t answer my post dichead. there are thousands of posts on the site and I just asked a simple question so again buzz off loser S.T. |
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look who's talkin' Unregistered guest | sabre tooth LK is the most knowledged guy on this site and he's one of the few that helps peeps here. so you fu*ck off azzhole |
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LK Unregistered guest | sabre...IF U COULD READ,I even gave U the info that U wanted and seeked (along with a little hobby advice)...so YOUR WELCOME ...U inconsiderate ungrateful little LAZY mouthy weasel!...a baby who can't take constructive advice and wants to be SPOON FED!...nest time ask your mom and pops for the help while they probably do your school homework for you and then throw U $20 for putting gas in their car.. |
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sabre tooth Unregistered guest | look who,s talking Well he may Know whats going on, but there was no need to be rude to me because I asked a question. If he did not want to answer it he should have kept his big fat yap shut. Lt If you are any kind of descent human being you will apoligize to me. S.T. |
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LK Unregistered guest | Kid...U have your morals and values backwards...I help U...U bash me...now U expect an apology from me...well here it is...BITE ME!...spoiled lazy little snot! |
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Anonymous | knowledged .= .Familiarity, awareness, or understanding gained through experience or study. |
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Cumbia King Unregistered guest | Hey LK...... ignore the little brat . he aint worth it. If we could we go over there and kick the son of a biitches azz |
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