Archive through January 28, 2005
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New member Username: HampersnowPost Number: 10 Registered: Dec-04 | thank you ,Maurice ,for your imput. it remains at the top of my list. |
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Latino_spink Unregistered guest | If you watch more than 4 hrs I'm pretty sure you'll use up the bulb within 5 yrs. I've also noticed that a lot of those bulbs burn out prematurely as well. |
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Latino_spink Unregistered guest | Anyone have an opinion on the Toshiba 44NHM84 versus the Samsung HLP-4663? Right now at Best Buy they're both at $2999.99 CDN and they both include free stands. Anyone have a recommendation and why? Thanks |
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splashusn Unregistered guest | Help!!! I have been looking for a 50" or 52" DLP TV for about a month. The 3 TV's I've looked at so far are the 50" Panasonic DLP, the 52" Toshiba (52hm84) or the 52HMX94, and I just left a Sound Advice store in South Florida and they tried to sell me a Mitsubishi 52" WD-52725. I'm leaning more towards the Toshiba. It seems to have the best Picture out of all of them, plus I can't stand the shiny screen on the Mitsu. Should I spend the extra $400 to $500 for the 52HMX94 with the HDTV Tuner, or is the 52HM84 good enough? I subscribe to Adelphia Digital Cable, as far as HDTV is concerned. Are there any other brands I should be looking at? I appreciate any input any of you might have. Thanks |
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Silver Member Username: Mr_lynchSeattle, WA Post Number: 334 Registered: Sep-04 | I think the Toshiba would be an excellent choice. If your getting HD though your cable company you don't need the built in tuner. It is only good for OTA HD, and you would need to install an antenna too. Save some money and get the m84. I probably would have chosen the m84 myself if my wife wasn't sensitive to rainbows. We ended up getting the JVC DiLA. Out of all the DLPs, we did like the Toshiba the best. |
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splashusn Unregistered guest | Question: What exactly is the difference between 52HM84, 52HM94, 52HMX94. I seem to be confused between these 3 sets. Thanks, |
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tnbubba Unregistered guest | tacp.toshiba.com can help some. the hm94 has as mr lynch explained the built in tuner. the hmx is the cinema series. it has a better speaker system, and black border around the screen. it also has 2 hdmi inputs. that's about it. |
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Bronze Member Username: EdaudiyocomPost Number: 25 Registered: Nov-04 | Has anyone seen or know where in Canada that carries the 46HM84? Can't seem to located one in Montreal. |
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CSchneider Unregistered guest | My opinion - I was all set to by the Toshiba 46HM84 and thought I'd like to see a DVD played on it. Well I'm sorry but for whatever reason DVD's do NOT look as good on this TV as on others. Don't know why but picture was not clear especially for smaller details (faces at some distance...). I bought the Samsung HLP5063 and couldn't be happier. Got the upconversion Samsung HD841 DVD player. And yes I saw Toshiba with the Toshiba HDMI DVD playing so I don't think there is anyway it can touch the Samsung for DVD picture. The same goes for SD picture too, better on Smasung. Toshiba HD picture is great and HD2+ chip is supposed to be better (better contrast ratio) than Smasung HD3 chip. But I like the wobulation picture of Samsung. It is very film-like with no pixelation. I really wanted to buy the Toshiba but this is my story. Be sure you compare Toshiba DVD picture with other projection before you but. |
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Bronze Member Username: Sound4bargainPost Number: 18 Registered: Oct-04 | I agree go with an open mind and eye buy what you like - I went for the JVC LCOS and got the Toshiba - the Samsung was wery close but the to me the Toshiba was sharper (and I never benhmarked a DVD) just HD and SD digital (later realized the Toshiba is horrible for regular SD - no experience with others). The feature I like the most about the Toshiba is its anti glare screen which in a room with ambient light is critical, most TV showrooms do not have real life conditions so the clear bright screen of the Mits shines over the Toshiba bring it home and the shine is the reflection of a window or a lamp. If you plan to invest nearly 3K on a TV create a an enviornment like your home, take a lamp or florecent light for the big window. Also don't get hung up on technology - I got myself 3 DVD players the Samsungs DVI, a Pioneer and a Sony and hooked all three to my TV. Set the same movie in all 3 and benchmarked them. Both the Sony and Pioneer blew the Samsung away (progressive or with the TV doubling). The Sony was marginally better than the Pioneer on progressive and same with TV doing the doubling. I opted for the Pioneer as it configured better with my complex hookup (easy to use for kids and complicated set up with features for me). So DVI (HDMI) by default does not mean better quality lots of other factors come into play. |
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New member Username: DennisfLouisville, KY USA Post Number: 1 Registered: Dec-04 | I am interested in a DLP TV but do not yet own one, mainly due to concern about fan and color wheel noise. I know this is a minor concern for most people; but constant noises, even at low levels, aggravate my tinnitus and hyperacusis (noise sensitivity). I have seen Toshiba and Samsung in the store, but this environment is too noisy to evaluate the fan noise (I must use earplugs here). Would someone with one of these sets turn the sound off in a quiet room and tell me if the set makes noise audible from about 10ft away? Thanks. |
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Bronze Member Username: HampersnowPost Number: 15 Registered: Dec-04 | a question for owners of toshiba DLPs. in the samsung threads i read alot about an audio -sync problem. i will not be using the Toshiba's built in speakers ,and assume that most of you are not.is anyone having an audio sync problem with these sets? it is one of my main concerns. |
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Bronze Member Username: Sound4bargainPost Number: 19 Registered: Oct-04 | Answer to both audio questions No fan noise from 10 feet - can hear from 5 feet, not a hum of a fan but a woosh of air flow most noticeable when you switch off the TV and it goes into standby for about five minutes to cool the bulb before complete shutdown. Normally do not notice it even when muted but I am not the most sensitive to ambient noise. No audio sync problem at all - I use both the TV's audio and a surround system and have no sync problem when using one or the other or both at the same time. For source I have a digital cable box and a DVD player both component input and anolog audio to TV and digital audio to Receiver. |
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Bronze Member Username: HampersnowPost Number: 16 Registered: Dec-04 | thank you ,Vic |
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New member Username: DennisfLouisville, KY USA Post Number: 2 Registered: Dec-04 | Thanks, Vic. I would greatly appreciate hearing from anyone else to see if their experience is the same regarding my 12/20 post. |
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Dubious Unregistered guest | Anyone had problem on their Toshiba DLP? I just bought a 52HM94 last thanksgiving and it only worked for about a week. The picture just went haywire and there was a hissing sound. Did not seem to be a lamp problem. After waiting for about two weeks for an authorize repairmain to look at the problem, I was informed by Toshiba that the part that needs to be replaced is back ordered until late Feb of 2005. Anyways, I still complained that it was too long for a wait and was asking Toshiba to just replace the unit. It's been a week now and I have not receive a call that they promised. If you are a potential buyer of a Toshiba DLP think again. |
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New member Username: Doclaw64Post Number: 10 Registered: Jul-04 | I have had mine since August and I have not had a problem at all. These boards are good to know if there are problems but you only get problems of this brand or that. So here is one from the other side. The Toshiba is great and have not had a single problem. and no I am in no way affiliated with Toshiba, but they should pay me for this.  |
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Bronze Member Username: Sound4bargainPost Number: 20 Registered: Oct-04 | I have had my TV since late summer with no problems but I am sorry to see that Toshiba is not responding in a professional manner and taking care of the consumer. Large screen TVs are not comodity price items and one would expect better service. If you put all these manufacturers TVs together the difference is minor and the buying descion close consistently bad reviews on quality and service do infulence my decsion to buy. One should not have to wait 3 months (2 weeks after purchase) for warranty service. This is the first time in my life I bought an extended service contract (requires the item to fixed within 2 weeks) and had lots of second thoughts about it. Also did not buy on internet but a local store on credit card just gives you more ammo in case things go wrong. "Dubious" I don't know your options but I would just take the TV back to the store call the credit card company and put the item under dispute - let the store fight it out with Toshiba they are a recognised reseller in my case |
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BDCC88 Unregistered guest | SHould I get the 56" Samsung Pedistal HLP5685W, or the 62" Toshiba 62HM94? |
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Chip Majors Unregistered guest | Does anyone know if the HDMI port on the Toshiba 62hm84 is compatible with the Samsung DVD HD-841 DVI port? I'm using a Monster cable 400 2M HDMI-DVI cable. Selecting the HDMI video on the TV really seems to freak the TV out. I'm only getting a flashing black screen with occasional flashes of unrecognizable blocks of colors, almost like the TV is not processing or decrypting the digital video signal from the DVD player. Of course, the DVD player is set to output to DVI (P-Scan and DVI) and the Toshiba is set to video 6 (HDMI). I've googled all over the Internet and cannot get a definitive answer if it is not compatible. As a matter of fact I've found indications of just the opposite. I have tried so many different combinations of settings and sequences of turning on and turning off components, the only thing I have left is to think the TV's HDMI port is not functioning or not compatible. I don't think it's an HDCP issue with the DVD player since I use the same DVD player with the DVI port on a 50" Samsung HPN5039 plasma manufactured in early '04 with no problems. I'd hate to have to exchange this big TV to find out it is compatibility and not malfunction. Anyone using the ??HM84 series Toshibas with the HD-841? Frustrated!! |
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Anonymous | Brought home my new 52HMX84 from Video Only in Tukwila, WA, for $3245 - out the door. Here's what I got for the money: the tv, base, 5 year warranty, and no tax. In fact, I bought the Samsung 50" HLP5085W from Circuit City and returned it for this model from Video Only. The pedestal design is nice on the Sammy but to hold my a/v equipment I would have to shell out another $400 for the extra shelf. I would have paid (tv)$3499 + (a/v rack)$400 + (4 year warranty)$579 + (tax)$392 = $4870. I saved almost $1625 dollars and get an additional 1 year warranty! By the way, the CC Sammy extended warranty runs concurrently with the provided one year warranty. So you're really paying for only 3 years. I'm not a techie kind of person but I can tell you I did my research, visited as many stores, and bugged the hell out of the salespeople. So, with everyone having provided all the "techie" opinions here are my personal "laymen" reasons why I chose the Toshi: 1) Picture quality - for the most part similar but the nod goes to Toshi because my eyes didn't seem to get tired from watching the Toshi. In SD signal the Toshi did a better job. The color seems balanced versus the Sammy being too "vivid" particularly in red. Maybe it's just me. 2) Sound - although mine is hooked to my a/v system there are times I don't turn them on and just need the sound from the tv. The sound from the Toshi is nice and full. The Sammy sounded to much like "crystal" without enough hint of bass. 3) TV/base height - the Toshi is just the right height. I feel the pedestal on the Sammy is a couple of inches too tall. But, then again, I'm only 5'7". Don't know if this would bother someone else. The big plus for me is the Toshi base swivels about 15-20 (not exact) degrees side-to-side - the Sammy's pedestal is permanently affixed to the tv. On the Toshi you can remove the tv from the factory base and incorporate into in-shelf or wall style entertainment systems. 4)Remote control - the Toshi has full button functions and it lights up! 5)No glare - my tv faces daylight all day and I can watch without any glare/reflection annoyance. 6)Audio - no audio sync problem whatsoever. 7)Rainbow - I noticed this problem only when playing my "Bourne - Supremacy" movie. Not on anything else. Not sure if it's the movie or my player. My brother has the 50" Pana and I can tell you my Toshi beats his hands down. I hope this helps at least one soul out there. |
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HDTV as Chrismas gift Unregistered guest | I just got the 62HM94 as my christmas present. On the manual, Toshi put big bold text said "The HDMI input on this TV is NOT intended for connection to a personal computer". Does this mean that I should not connect pc to this TV at all? How about thru component video cable (any side effect) ? Thanks in advance for any advice |
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meps1968 Unregistered guest | I have 52HM84 toshiba dlp and i have a dumb question. Should i turn on progressive scan on DVD if TV already has progressive scan. PS-Great deal at Leon's (not where i would usually purchase TV) but was to hard to pass up $2999.99 (stand included)...that is correct, stand included! Great PIC |
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Anonymous | Sounds like a decent deal at Leon's, but don't know if it beats the deal above at Video Only. $245 more and he got a 5 year warranty and the higher up cinema series model. But then again most people porbably don't live neat a Video Only or a Leon's. |
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GrandMaster Unregistered guest | I got my 52hm94 for $2618 shipped to my door! Has a few options the 84 model doesn't, but both are great sets. And yes, you need to turn on progressive scan on your DVD player and use Component (Red, Green and Blue) cables to achieve a Progressive Scan picture. You can still use the red and white wires for sound, but I'd go with an optical audio connection if your reciever has optical inputs. |
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Bronze Member Username: Sound4bargainPost Number: 24 Registered: Oct-04 | To have progressive you have to use component (Red, Green and Blue) connector you then have the option to set the DVD to progressive or not. If you set it to progressive the DVD does the line doubling and sends a 480p signal to the TV you will have to set picture size to 1 or 2 - if you leave it at 0 you will have both vertical and horizontal bars. If you leave the progressive off on the DVD player the TV does the progressive scan and you can leave the picture size at 0, 1, 2. The TV has reasonabley good progressive scan as good as the better mass market DVD players, but no where in comparison to the high end DVD plyers. - Got a great DVD player set its progressive on. - Dont want to strech the 4:3 programs and not adjust the pictrure size every time you shift sources leave the DVD progressive off. - Otherwise makes no difference. |
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About to Buy Unregistered guest | To add to Xmas Gift's post: I also am looking at hooking a PC up to HDTV. I also noted the warning in the manual about the HDMI port. Anyone had any success or horror stories in hooking PCs up to the Toshi DLPs? Any input would be appreciated. |
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Tire Kicker Unregistered guest | I've seen a few messages here about the Toshiba 44nhm84. This is an interesting, small DLP that appears to have little in common with other Toshiba DLPs. In this case, appearances are correct. The 44NHM84 is a LG manufactured set. Even all of the LG service manual codes work the same as on the LG-branded 44" DLP. The Zenith 44" is also the same LG, except that the Toshiba version employs the HD2+ chip. Not sure Toshiba had much of anything to do with the design of it. |
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Unregistered guest | I like the Toshiba 52HMX94, I have the money and am ready to buy, but I do have a concern about how well it will display a SD analog siglal via cable, this is important to since all or most viewing will be done SD cable. Comments please. Pip |
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meps1968 Unregistered guest | If most viewing will be with Analog, dont buy big screen...Toshiba no better or worse than any other, but TV's are built for HD and digital sources (DVD). HDTV on Toshiba DLP is Awesome! |
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Unregistered guest | Thanks meps, I have also been considering a Sony 36" CRT, they are down to about $800. For me that may be the way to go for now, at least until they get the big screen SD analog to look to look as good as a CRT or at least close. Pip |
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CptD Unregistered guest | Was going to CC to buy the HL-P5085W. Then read a post about Toshiba 52HMX94... HD2+, cable card, built in HD... changed my mind. Anyone used the "Digital Media Inputs" yet? Also anyone know for sure 6 or 7 color wheel? |
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CapD Unregistered guest | See above... That wound be the Samsung HL-P5085W. By the way.. anyone have any thoughts about is it better to buy from a local store vs buying over the web?? Also the warranty, better from local store? |
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Ego Unregistered guest | Tire kicker... The Toshi is 44NHM84 is NOT, let me repeat that, is NOT an LG. I know the service manual codes are the same. The toshi 44" is made for a buyers group called NATM. The set is not widely available. Also, the Toshi 44 has proprietary features not found in the LG and IS a better picture. educate before you participate! |
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Anonymous | Has anyone has linked a pc to the 52HM84? |
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LKY Unregistered guest | I bought the Toshiba 52HM84 the day after Thanksgiving. Got a great deal, free delivery and a 30 day exchange. I sit about 10' away from the TV in a small apartment. Everything was cool until I watch a NFL game on HD. That experience convince me to go for the 62". I am glad I did. Big screen TVs are great for sports. Some great features on the Toshiba: No motion artefacts that I can detect. No Color bars I can detect. Great bright picture. Blacks are very good. On HDTV, I can't imagine it looking better. Performance on DVDs are also beautiful - HD liked. On SDTV, excellent. Much better than 2003 models (the reason I didn't buy in 2003). DIRECT TV SD is very watchable. I spent Christmas holidays with a VIDEO ESSENTIALS DVD to try to calibrate this set. I use both BONA HDMI cable and BONA COMP VIDEO cable from my DENON all region 2910 Universal player. I calibrated both the HDMI and HD1 inputs on the Toshiba. I found that colors were exellent but the brightness was very hard to adjust. After cailibration, I ran into the latest copy of the PERFECT VISION in which the author compared the Toshiba with a SONY 3 LCD panel RPTV. His conclusion was pretty much the same as mine. Brighness tracking on the Toshiba was tough to achieve, He also ementioned that the gray scale tracking was poor and the color was also on the cool side of the D6500 standard. Note that this did not detract my enjoyment of this TV. My family and I are absolutely spoil. My wife now refuses to watch any program, unless its HD. However, I do find it necessary to crank up the brightness a bit so I can get better resolution on the dark scenes. Now here is the question I have for you pros on this forum. The DENON 2910 has gamma correction features as well as its own brighness, contrast and sharpness settings. Has anyone tried to correct the shortcomings of the TV using these capabilities on the DVD players? |
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LKY Unregistered guest | One additional item.., I bought the Toshiba with a friend of mine. He also bought a Toshiba - 52HM84 to be exact. We compared the Toshiba to: JVC D-ILA - Very nice colors. But we were concern about the LCOS technology not being around in a few years. DLP seemed more main stream. The JVC also costs much more than the Toshiba at the time. MITSUBISHI - Price was a few hundred more than the JVC. The reflective screen however, was totally not acceptable. Plus it was black vs Silver. Wife wanted silver. Picture was very good though when you get pass your own reflections. OPTOMA RD? - Too ugly even to be considered. PANASONIC - forget it. The picture was simply not up the par. No comparison to the Toshiba even though at the time, we could have gotten it for several hundred less. SONY - Great. Except the blacks looked bluish. Price was also good. Samsung - motion artefacts too obvious. Plus it costs several hundred more. Too many problems reported on the net for me to feel comfortable. Toshiba had a better appearance to me...at least. |
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newbuyer Unregistered guest | LKY, my 52HM84 is coming in a couple weeks. You touched on something that I haven't been able to get a straight answer from anywhere here on two different Toshib threads concerning SD. I will have an HDTV reciever, but as you know half of general programing is still not HD. You seem to maintain that SD on the TV is quite watchable. That's good news, because I've heard many varied opinions ranging from: a) SD isn't spectacular but still pretty good. b) if you don't stretch it across the whole widescreen it's OK or C) any way you cut it SD sucks on this DLP. I seem to have settled for the middle, brushing off the latter opinion coming from people who cannot accept anything below HD. Do you agree? |
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Dave374 Unregistered guest | EGO: How can you be so sure? Where do you get YOUR information? You give a reply like that, but no proof. I would be curious too if all the specs are the same as the LG, the service menu access is the same, and Toshiba.ca's website doesn't list the 44nhm84 having TALEN or other Toshiba propietary stuff. |
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LKY Unregistered guest | Newbuyer: The Toshiba is better than SONY LCD RPTV, the HITACHI (50V500A) and the SAMSUNG DLPs in SDTV, Most of the time, the answer is A. If the signal is good, B is also a good answer. However, a poor SDTV signal will not yield as good a result when you stretch the picture. So for the best SDTV, I agree with A. You will be happy with this TV for SD. LKY |
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newbuyer Unregistered guest | great. Thanks. Listen, I'm a novice when it comes to hook-ups. what do you reccomend for HDTV and DVD connections? All I have is a standard component connection (is that red, white and yellow cables?) for my DVD,a nd whatever the cable guy will use to hook up the HD reciever. Is either good enough? Should I upgrade to Monster or anything else? Is it worth it? |
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Sean1234 Unregistered guest | I am so sad. We just returned our 2nd JVC 52" DLP. Both broke in three weeks. Different problems, so I just can not see getting another. Unfortunately, its picture was so nice we can not find another we like. |
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Jim777 Unregistered guest | I recently purchased a Toshiba 52HM94 DLP and wanted to find the best DVD player I could. In the process I returned 2 Samsung 841's. Both had the "black crush" problem in the HDMI mode, the first one I thought was just defective because it did not enable me to adjust the black level in the HDMI mode. Wrong. Its poorly designed. Component input was not bad however. Returned it and I got the Toshiba SD V592 combo. HDMI also was not good, too dark with greenish tinge and component input only went to 480p on "copy writed disks". Then got the Toshiba 5970. It too had a dark HDMI input which could not be adjusted. You would think that Toshiba products would be better with a Toshiba product. Wrong. Returned it and got HK DVD 22. It does not upscale and uses its own special 480 progressive technology. However, this unit's video outperforms the 4 other units which had the HDMI connections hands down. Colors are perfect, contast and brightness are perfect. Sharpness is near HD quality. I would recommend highly. |
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LKY Unregistered guest | newbuyer: Try to avoid cheap cables but don't spend a fortune on designer cables either. www.cablemegastore seem to have a decent selection of cables at reasonable prices. I drive my 62HM84's HDMI input using the DENON DVD2910 player, HD1 COMP VID input is driven by my Samsung STB for OTA, HD 2 COMP VID input will be driven by a satellite or cable receiver if I ever get there. Right now my DIRECT TV STB is driving one of my TOSHIBA's S-VHS inputs - this is something you should avoid. My CAMCORDER drives the side S-VHS input. If I ever decide to buy the last VCR, I will use the third S-VHS input. God forbid if I ever need to drive the Toshiba with a PC.... The MONSTER cable stuff to me, is not worth the money they charge. I use all BONA cables: HDMI and COMP VIDEO. |
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Anonymous | I just purchased a 62HM84. The HD is great, but normal channels look very grainy. I have comcast and if the station is not available in the 800's, which is the HD channels for comcast, the picture looks horrible. Like I said, the HD stuff is outstanding. What am I missing? Can anyone suggest how to attack this? TJH |
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New member Username: DutchdaveHolland, MI USA Post Number: 6 Registered: Dec-04 | Just got the cable card installed on my 52HMX94. The ESPN HD channel is awesome! (Bring back the NHL.) I'm not sure if I'll be able to watch those other non HD channels now. I love it! |
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New member Username: ForeverblueToronto, Ontario Canada Post Number: 1 Registered: Jan-05 | New owner of 52hmx84 Any of you out there know which is the best or recomendation setting for this model in term of Picture Mode = ? Brightness = ? Constrast = ? Color = ? Tint = ? Sharpness = ? Or should I stay with Factory Setting ? Also How come I can not get to MTS ( in Audio Setting)? I want to set the TV to Stereo Mode. I tried to read the manual but not quite clear what is said " The MTS feature is not available when TV is in Video mode" ? I did not set my TV to Video mode.........! Please help. |
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Murph2 Unregistered guest | Anyone had any problems with the 44inch Toshiba DLP? We purchased ours about 1.5 mths ago. Absolutely love it, but one day it just wouldn't turn on???? Store thought it might be the bulb so we brought the bulb into the store but it worked in their TV. So they gave us that TV with our original bulb in it. About a week or two later, same thing, it wouldn't turn on. We had the bulb replaced this time. About a week later, AGAIN, it wouldn't turn on. Tried again about 1/2 hr later and it came on. A few days later same thing. It makes a "zzzt" sound when it won't turn on. Sounds like a power problem. Store gave us a special power bar but again last night (after a week) it wouldn't turn on and same "zzzt" sound. ANYBODY have any ideas???? Sorry I'm not very technical, but I'm extremely frustrated. We love this TV but obviously for this kind of money we are not satisfied with it. |
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LKY Unregistered guest | Murph2: Did you check the AC voltage levels on your outlet? Its could be running too high (therefore blowing your TV) or too low (not enough current to start the circuits). What kind of problems did the store find on the TV you returned? Or you could just have a terrible string of bad luck. |
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Murph2 Unregistered guest | LKY The store resold the TV and hasn't heard any problems. Apparently there is one other person that they sold to having the same problems. Toshiba just keeps sending new bulbs, thinking its a bad batch of bulbs. How does one check the AC voltage levels and if it is running too high or too low what do you do about it. Like I said the store gave us a Monster power bar which I would have thought would take care of any voltage problems. Also if it is a power problem it is strange that it works for a couple of weeks and then dies??? Any thoughts welcomed |
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Anonymous | A surge protection won't protect you from voltage irregaularity. You need a UPS with AVR to ensure stable voltage. Does your area known to has a lot of power problems? Do you live in the city? You best bet is to ask a technician (under warranty) to come to your house while you TV is zzzzzzzt to find out the cause. Whethe it is a flaky circuit board or bad DMD or human error. |
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Murph2 Unregistered guest | We live in the suburbs. The other person having the same problem lives in a different suburb about 20-30 minutes away. What I can't figure out is why it will come back on the next time we try it? For example, it wouldn't come on Monday night or Tues morning and when I tried it Tues night at first it wouldn't come on but I tried it again immediately and it came on?????? Its very flaky. Also, everything else, ie. computer, works fine in our house. |
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Petro Unregistered guest | OH MY GOD!! Murph2, I'm having the exact same problem with mine, and it's about 2 weeks old. Same zzzzzzt sound, same "sometimes it comes on 1/2 or so later", everything!! The techie I spoke to over the phone said the same thing your guy did, that's its probably the bulb. I told him no deal, if it was the bulb, then why did it sometimes work, sometimes not? I have a technician supposedly coming by the house tonight to take a look, I'll let you know what he says if he makes it out. |
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Murph2 Unregistered guest | Awesome Petro. Can't wait to hear. Misery loves company! |
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Petro Unregistered guest | Well, wish I had more to report, but the tech guy never made it out last night. Probably a good thing as the unit was working perfectly. Unless I can get them out when it's on the fritz I doubt they'll be able to tell me much. |
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Anonymous | Murph2 and Petro, can you move the 44NHM84 startup problem discussion to here? Be sure to keep us posted about the problem. https://www.ecoustics.com/electronics/forum/home-video/109367.html |
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Unregistered guest | I just purchased a Toshiba 46HM84. I am watching TV through digital cable and i am unhappy with the picture quality. Does the picture quality only look great with HD programming? I keep reading positive reviews of picture quality, but when i watch a citcom on most channels the picture is fairly poor. A good word to use would be "grainy". Is that normal? If not, what should I check? The tv looks much worse than my standard panasonic picture tube TV. Why??? |
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Silver Member Username: Mr_lynchSeattle, WA Post Number: 402 Registered: Sep-04 | New2DLP- To fully enjoy your new TV you should really try to get HD programing. Standard def programing is not going to look all that great on any rear projection digital TV. Grainy is very normal. If you get close to your old CRT set I bet is looks just as grainy, you just don't notice it as much because it is much smaller. The larger screen is going to magnify the flaws of standard definition. |
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New member Username: DutchdaveHolland, MI USA Post Number: 7 Registered: Dec-04 | New2DLP - I purchased a 52HMX94 two weeks ago. I experience the same thing with my TV using digital cable. Some channels just plain suck. The larger the screen the more it is noticeable. On the other hand some cable channels look pretty good. The HDTV channels look spectacular! The DVD signal is also superb. My conclusion is that as long as I have digital cable I am going to have to deal with the good and bad channels. I don't think there is anything wrong with the TV. |
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Jim777 Unregistered guest | New2DLP- I have the 52HM94 for 2 weeks. HD and DVD's are phenomenal. SD basic cable is not as good, however so far I have found the following which can improve it: 1. Use the Movie Mode as this will soften the picture so that the imperfections will be muted. 2. Calibrate the TV using the Digital Video Essentials or Avia CD's. I have not yet completed this but will be working on it over the week end. The contrast and sharpness will need to be lowered for SD. 3. If you are using a cable box, split the signal before it goes in and attach the cable to ANT 2. By bypassing the box you will get a better signal for the SD channels. Digital and HD channels will only be able to be viewed through the cable box connection. But SD basic cable should be better. 4. Put the TV as far away as possible. The further away the better the picture. 5. I have found that the cablecard slot use on the 94 version definately improves SD reception as compared to using the cable box. I had both and compared. 6. Even so there a good SD chanels and not so good. Hope this helps |
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Bronze Member Username: Sound4bargainPost Number: 26 Registered: Oct-04 | Jimm777 I found your point 3 interesting because for me it works quite differentlty. I have cablevision and when you opt for digital cable (includes HD) they seem to up all the channels to digital and the SD channels from the cable box are much better than without. The quality really improved once I got the cable box. I have not tried the ANT alone after I subscribed to digital cable and now I will to do a compare. Maybe it depends on the cable box (like you said the cable card improves SD). Also though SD on my TV still looks a bit rough it is much better than what it is on my old 32" Toshiba CRT. That runs without the cable box - I am going to hook it up and see if that improves. |
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Unregistered guest | HDLP and others: In the review of the 52HM84 by William Becker (see DLPTVreview.com), he suggests: with the bulb set to HI BRIGHT CONTRAST = 65 BRIGHTNESS = 67 COLOR = 48 TINT at R2 In the PERFECT VISION's review of the 52HM84, the reviewer mentioned that the standard settings are a good compromise. Previous articles in the PERFECT VISION suggests going to MOVIE and/or CINEMA's to reduce enhance artefacts. The Toshiba has several default settings. Some have setting sfor various parameters set to 100%. There was one where the defaults are at 50%. I believe that is the one recommended. In my 62HM48, I used VIDEO ESSENTIALs DISK, low bulb settings. My results are pretty close to Beckers recommendations. Brightness = 62 in my case and CONTRAST = 0. Tint = R9 if my memory serves right. Keep in mind there set to set variations means you really have to tweak your set. As far as SDTV goes, I find that it depends on the quality of the signal. I bought my TV to watch sports, HDTV and DVDs. In this application, I am more than satisfy even sitting at 10' away. My family loves the TV and they refuse to watch SDTV anymore. My wife and I do agree that the TOSHIBA, compare to all of the last years DLP,LCD and LCOS sets is a million times improvement when it comes to watching SDTV. |
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Jim777 Unregistered guest | Vic I also have Cablevision and definately found by-passing the cable box better for the SD Basic cable channels (1 -100). I don't know if its because the 52HM94 will accept a cable card as well as a cable box (I didn't have the cable card at the time). I also can say that use of the cable card which I had installed yesterday makes an improvement in the SD basic cable as compared to just bypassing the box before, to the extent that SD is now of very good quality. |
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TommyO Unregistered guest | Hi, Does the cable card also improve quality from a digital satellite feed? I am technically inept. Also, can anyone answer the question regarding hooking up a pc or gaming console to the toshiba? Finally, is there a consensus as to the best dvd-player and sound system for this tv? thanks. great thread! |
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tvdude Unregistered guest | A cable card is a little descrambling unit. It does nothing to improve signal quality. However, it is possible that if you replace your cable box with a cable card analog reception might improve a little--just because the signal passes through one less external device... |
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Jim777 Unregistered guest | HDLP and others: My initial calibration using high lamp, medium color temp: contrast 65 brightness 55 color 45 tint r6 sharpness 50 I found contrast very hard to adjust and used William beckers setting. |
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Jeff S Unregistered guest | I just bought a Toshiba 52HMX94 and will take delivery and set it up tomorrow! I'm happy to find this forum.. btw, the X94 was $2895 at RC Willey's here it Utah. Pretty good for this feature-packed set! I'll let you know how it goes.. and probably be asking some questions. Jeff S |
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Jeff S Unregistered guest | I just bought a Toshiba 52HMX94 and will take delivery and set it up tomorrow! I'm happy to find this forum.. btw, the X94 was $2895 at RC Willey's here it Utah. Pretty good for this feature-packed set! I'll let you know how it goes.. and probably be asking some questions. Jeff S |
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New member Username: SharonfLake Havasu City, Arizona USA Post Number: 3 Registered: Jan-05 | New2DLP : I have a Toshiba 62Hm94. The picture looks superb on HD Channels, excellent on DVDs, very good on digital channels and just ok on a couple of the analog channels. I have digital cable through Cablevision but all channels are not digital. I discovered, for instance, that if I turn on regular HBO it looks pretty good but not as good as I'd like it. If I choose one of the HBO digital channels the picture will be much better. I went through the whole list of channels just to check everything out. |
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LKY Unregistered guest | Jim 777 and others.. Do you folks notice a significant difference in adjusting the contrast control in your sets with HDMI and COMP VID inputs? |
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New member Username: PilotctPost Number: 1 Registered: Jan-05 | Can someone comment on the 52HMX84 for watching sports? I am particularly concerned about fast moving action and pixelation. Thanks. |
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New member Username: MmagnusPost Number: 4 Registered: Jan-05 | Greetings all, The text below is pasted from my original message in a thread about the Toshiba 5970 dvd player. Since the issue now isn't the player I've decided to jump into this thread. I've inserted the old message to get everyone up to speed on my issue -- <<<<old>>>> Answer me this then: I just bought a brand new Toshiba 52HMX84 and have the 5970 hooked up to it (through the HDMI cable that came with it) and the picture is absolutely horrible. How can this be? I'm seeing so much graininess in the picture that I actually thought the tv was bad. Then I took the same movie (Spiderman) to BB and had them hook up the same dvd player to one of their Tosh 52s and saw the same crap. I honestly don't think the tv is bad and that it must be the dvd player/cables. Any help on how to clean up this picture would be greatly appreciated. <<<<<end>>>> Okay, so my original thought was that it was the dvd player/cables/etc. but I was wrong... Last night I bought a Denon 2910, Audioqest:Cinemaquest HDMI cables, and a Monster surge protector/power filter... all to test out my tv's quality (as I've begun to doubt it). After skimming the manual of the 2910 (and being severely overwhelmed with its tuning features) I hooked it up to my set and crossed my fingers. I couldn't believe it. The picture was still grainy. I tried 720p and 1080i to no avail. I even tried the 480p, zilch. Still grainy. I'm at a loss now and think my only option is to return the television unless anyone out there has any other ideas as to why the picture is grainy. Let me include that I've only tested the dvd quality and not HD (I did see the 1080i signal loop they broadcast in BB on all their sets and it looks great). I don't have cable and just want to watch movies (for now)... and want them to look good! So, are there any new Toshiba DLP owners out there that have any tips on making the picture as great as what I've read it should be? Is there something I'm missing here? Thanks in advance -Tosh52 |
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Bronze Member Username: Sound4bargainPost Number: 27 Registered: Oct-04 | Try hooking up component cables (3 Video + 2 audi) and set the 2910 to 480p if you use the 5970 set it to 480i see if its better. Also set the TV to Movie mode (not default) and you may have to play with picture settings (I left all mine at default). If it still stinks return the TV expect better from something that cost 3K. I have heard issues with HDMI before and stangely my NEC LCD monitor works better with VGA with one computer and DVI with the other so the fact if its digital to the end does not make it better depends from device to device |
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hopeless Unregistered guest | hi everyone, i'm thinking of possibly picking up a 52hmx84, and was hoping somebody might be able to help with a few questions: (1) Is there still an issue with ghosting using the hdmi inputs on this set? i had read previously about users complaining about issues with the hdmi, so I'm wondering whether this issue has been resolved yet. (2) Is a 52" too big for a viewing distance of about 8 feet? (3) Is $2200 a fair price for this set? thanks for your help! |
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Silver Member Username: Mr_lynchSeattle, WA Post Number: 430 Registered: Sep-04 | 1) I personally have no idea, hopefully someone will know the answer. 2) 52" would be pushing it. It would come down to personal preference, but I think the 46" would look better from 8ft. 3) $2200 is a damn good price. |
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hopeless Unregistered guest | thanks mr. lynch. yeah, i think you're right about 52" being too big. but the price is very tempting. too bad the store doesn't carry the 46" models. seeing as how the mrs. had an issue with the size of the 50" samsung dlp that we used to own, i'll probably have to pass on the 52hmx84 (sigh). on another note, i've just read about the "game mode" which apparently eliminates delays in the video signal, but that this only available on the 94 models. is this something that is an issue only with 480i signals? i have an xbox, which mostly runs 480p games through component video, so i'm wondering if i can get by with the 46hm84 without the game mode. |
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New member Username: LedgeroniPost Number: 2 Registered: Jan-05 | commenting on the distance. 52 would be pushing it unless you have a spare set of eyes or would be watching primarily DVD or hi def programming. we have the 62" set and sit from between 12-17 feet from the screen with the primary seat about 15 feet. When watching hi def, it truly feels like you are in the picture. Discovery channel in HD is now my favorite channel. |
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hopeless Unregistered guest | thanks kim. i've went ahead and orderd the 46hm84, thinking the 52hmx84 would be too big for my setup. i just hope everthings works out with this tv, as i've read some complaints about ghosting with the hdmi, and dithering issues when the camera pans quickly. i orderd it from costco.com, which provides a nice return policy (they even refund shipping and handling) if it doesn't work out. |
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Bronze Member Username: FtdPost Number: 12 Registered: Dec-04 | Hopeless, I am at the 8 to 10' range for the 52" screen and I think the other 44" was a better choice. Don't make my mistake. Hello All, I just got a Toshiba 52HM84 after returning my 44" 44NHM84 model to upgrade. I have it connected via component cables; I do not have HDMI cables yet. I got to tell you, so far, I am disappointed. I was expecting at least the same picture quality as the 44NHM84, if not better. To be honest, so far the picture quality was better on the 44". This 52" has better features and all, but the bottom line is always picture quality. I did have the 44" connected via DVI cables, so to give the 52" full benefit of the doubt, I will connect via HDMI and then conclude on which gives better picture. Can anyone give me advice on preferred settings for the Toshiba 52HM84. |
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hopeless Unregistered guest | thanks Frank. wow, i maybe should rethink my decision to go with the 46hm84 over the 44nhm84. the thing is, the 52hmx84 looked significantly better than the 44nhm84 at the local video only store, which made me decide to go with the 46hm84 (since it's basically a scaled down version of the 52hm84/52hmx84). the 44nhm84 seemed to have a softer and noisier picture, with colors that weren't quite as vibrant. hmm, what to do. would love to hear your experience after you get the 52hm84 hooked up through the hdmi. the tv's at video only were all connected with component video, and at least with component, the 52hmx84 looked noticeably better than the 44nhm84 (both to me and my friend who was comparing the sets with me). |
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New member Username: SharonfLake Havasu City, Arizona USA Post Number: 6 Registered: Jan-05 | I have had my Toshiba 62HM94 for a couple of weeks now.My cable company doesn't have cable cards yet so I am using their Motorola 6208 DVR. I am going to change to the 6412 as soon as the company gets them in. Here is what I've tried and what has worked for me. I have everything hooked up via component cables. I tried a HDMI to DVI cable but I found the picture to be too dark and a little grainier. I have a splitter with one end of the cable going to the cable box and the other end going diectly to the TV. The SD channels look a lot clearer this way. I purchased the DVE disk but was having a hard time using it, so I mainly set everything to how it looked to my eyes. Then I rented a DVD with the THX Optimizer in it (Monster Inc.) and tried using that to help tweak my settings. I didn't have the THX glasses but the blue filter form the DVE disk worked just fine. I just had to make a couple of small changes to my settings after using the THX Optimizer but it made a noticeable difference. Even the SD channels looked pretty good. I even watched Monsters Inc. all the way though and it looked great! The settings that I am using for most channels: contrast 65 brightness 35 color 55 tint 0 sharpness 42 I use brighter setting for the HD channels but these setting seem to work the best for other channels. There are exceptions because some channels just seem to look different than others. The thing that made the most differnce for SD channels was turing the brightness and contrast down. Now here is my biggest discovery. I ordered a Motorola signal booster and it arrived yesterday. I hooked it up and it really made a difference. All digital channlels look almost HD quality and even the SD channels look a lot better and have a stronger picture. It's the best $40 I've spent! |
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Bronze Member Username: Doclaw64Post Number: 12 Registered: Jul-04 | Where did you put the signal booster? Before the cable box, before the tv... TIA I've been meaning to get the DVD to make the settings. Just yesterday my tv looked like crap I had no greens. I spent a good 2 hours trying to fix the settings. Then I looked at the back of the cable box and the red component wire was loose, dooh lol |
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New member Username: SharonfLake Havasu City, Arizona USA Post Number: 7 Registered: Jan-05 | doclaw64 I had that happen once too. All of a sudden the colors had a red cast when they had looked fine before. In my case one of the coax cables was loose. When I tightened it up everything returned to normal. I hooked the cable booster up this way: Cable from the wall goes to the signal input on the booster, cable from signal output on the booster goes to splitter, one cable from the slitter goes to the cable box and the other one goes to Ant 1 on the TV. Then there is another cable connecting the booster to a power source. Two cables are included. It was very easy to install. |
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jesse01 Unregistered guest | can anyone comment on the bulb? Is it something a fairly knowledgable person could do if they ordered the part. this is for the 52hm94? Thanks |
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Bronze Member Username: FtdPost Number: 13 Registered: Dec-04 | Sharon, Thanks for your help. Can you tell me more about the "DVE disk"? I also used the THX Optimizer (I do not have the glasses, I wonder where you get those). DVDs look great but I need to change those settings for SD and HD broadcasts. My HD box is also Motorola and it has DVI out, so I was going to buy the DVI to HDMI cable, but I see you don't recommend it. What's all this hype I've been reading about HDMI ? I use a Radio Shack cable amplifier, which sounds like your Motorola signal booster, and it helps. What quality component cables are you using and what setting do use on your TV lamp? Hopeless, I saw a lot of HDTV's before I picked the 44nhm84. I have nothing but praise for that TV, it had a great picture. Sure it lacked a couple features that the 46" 52" and 62" units offer, such as, better sound, lamp adjustments, auto aspect ratio, and POP with HD1, HD2 and HDMI , to name a few. But for that price range it was tops in my books. I am having doubts about taking it back for the larger screen. I am planning to move the 52" to a larger room; I have no choice, because my current TV room is just too small for this unit. You can get lots of good info about the 44" and the 46" models on this string https://www.ecoustics.com/electronics/forum/home-video/109367.html |
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New member Username: SharonfLake Havasu City, Arizona USA Post Number: 8 Registered: Jan-05 | Jesse01 The bulb is pretty easy to change. We had to have our first set returned because it was damaged in shipping. Toshiba at first thought it was the bulb and sent us a new one. My husband changed it pretty easily. The instructions are in the manual. |
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New member Username: SharonfLake Havasu City, Arizona USA Post Number: 10 Registered: Jan-05 | Frank, I still haven't had a whole lot of luck with the DVE but I'm going to give it a try again. I found the THX Optimizer easier to use. The glasses can be ordered from here if you don't have a blue filter: http://www.thx.com/mod/products/dvd.html They're only $2. I use low power on the lamp. I have Monster component cable going from the TV to the receiver (husband bought, grrr) but my other component cables are much less expensive. I just got them at Radio shack. I also thought the HDMI was supposed to be the best which is why I bought a cable to try. Over at the the AVS forums they have been reporting a lot of ghosting issues with HDMI. I didn't notice any ghosting but I didn't have the cable hooked up very long either. The picture just wasn't as good as with the component cables. If you haven't already seen it there is a long thread on Toshiba DLPs here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=438276 |
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Anonymous | Sharon, how's the Monster component cable compare to the cheaper component cable? |
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Bronze Member Username: SharonfLake Havasu City, Arizona USA Post Number: 11 Registered: Jan-05 | Anonymous, The Monster cables are very heavy duty and work very well. Still they are way overpriced. You still need good component cables but you can find them a lot cheaper than Monster's. My other component cables are good quality ones from Radio Shack and they work just as well. I asked my husband to pick up some more component cables and he came home with Monsters. That's why we have them. I wouldn't have paid that much for cables! |
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newbuyer Unregistered guest | I posted this on the other DLP thread, but I'm repeating here because I know each thread has its unique visitors. besides my TV is more relevent here.. Okay. My TV came tonight. Not much to tell because I don't have cable hooked up and I'm going to get a DVD player tomorrow. In the meantime, I need some help with choosing the specs of the DVD player and various hook-up options. I'm a real novice when it comes to this type of stuff: 1. DVD: is progessive scan a really big deal? (Seems the toshib 52 dosn't allow screen size options for 720p anyway) What's my best option to hook-up. Components? Are Mosters essential or do 50 dollar RCAs do the job too? 2. HDTV: I'm geting HD this weekend. Anyone know what Rogers (cable company) includes (standard AV?). Should I upgrade to componenet for the HD box too. IF I HAD THE CHOICE of using componenets for either DVD or HD reciver, and keeping the other on regular AVs, what's the better bet? 3. HDMI: what is it really? I've heard and read it has issues. Is it better for DVD or HD? Or am I better off justing using components for both DVD and HD and ignoring HDMI? 4. I also have a S video laying around here. I've heard they really don't do much in comparison to regular AVs. Is that true? If not, should I use on DVD or HD box? I know this is a lot, but just wondering if you guys have any advice for the best combination of DVD, HD box and their hook-ups in terms of the above scenerios. Thanks.. |
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Bronze Member Username: SharonfLake Havasu City, Arizona USA Post Number: 12 Registered: Jan-05 | newbuyer, Yes, you want a progressive scan DVD payer. Use component cables (red,green, blue) for your connections, not composite or S Video. You don't have to buy Monster cables. You can get good component cables at a fraction of the cost of Monster cables. I got mine at Radio Shack. I tried a HDMI to DVI cable but found that the picture looks better via component. What all are you hooking up? Are you going through a receiver? |
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newbuyer Unregistered guest | No.. HD receiver and DVD both into TV on their own. I guess I'll go with components for each of them. Thanks Sharon |
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jesse01 Unregistered guest | thanks Sharon for the input...you're great! |
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newbuyer Unregistered guest | One last question before I buy the DVD. I don't have a whole lot of money left. So I was wondering how the picture on a progressive DVD that only does 420i and 420p is with a good set of components. Is a DVD that is capable of 720p and 1080i really that much superior over the middle-of the road progressives DVD with a good set of components? Doesn't the toshib upscale eveything to 720p anyway? Thanks |
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Anonymous | I recently purchased a Toshiba 44NHM84 dlp set from future shop.I have set the T.V at what would be considered a normal height on a T.v stand I had.I have noticed when I sit at my usual position the picture is almost too bright and the color looks saturated!,when I sit only a couple of inches higher it looks perfect! Does anyone know if this is a common problem with this technology? or is it something that can be adjusted? any imput would be appretiated. |
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New member Username: DmillBellevue, WA Post Number: 1 Registered: Jan-05 | Anon - Maybe not the correct fix, but you could always "wedge" (tilt) the back of the TV to give the same effect as sitting higher. The correct fix would be to adjust the brightness settings. Don't ask me how, as I haven't picked up my 44NHM84 yet ... ;) |
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Unregistered guest | Question to anyone out there owning a Toshiba 52HM84 DLP, - I just purchased mine and noticed a lighter color spot in the upper-middle section of the screen while the TV is off. I got the unit replaced but it the same thing. What could it be??. Is it supposed to be like this |
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hopeless Unregistered guest | Amar, i think what you might be seeing is an internal reflection from ambient lighting, which is normal. i experienced something similar with a samsung dlp tv. if you only see this when the screen is off, then i wouldn't worry about it. |
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Jim777 Unregistered guest | Newbuyer: The TV will not automatically upscale anything unless your DVD player sends an upscaled signal. I am using the Harmon Kardon DVD 22 which uses a special 480 progressive output which is exceptionally good. I compared it with the current Samsung and Toshiba upscaling DVD players which use the HDMI connection and found the HK which uses component connections far better. |
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Silver Member Username: Mr_lynchSeattle, WA Post Number: 442 Registered: Sep-04 | Jim- The Toshiba, like ALL fixed pixel displays, will scale (upscale 480i/480p, or downscale 1080i) every signal to its native resolution. Which in the case of the Toshiba is 1280x720. If you give it a standard DVD signal of 720x480, the TVs processor will upscale it to 1280x720. It doesn't matter if you do this on the DVD player side, or the TV side, what matters is the quality of the scaler. |
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