Archive through October 14, 2004

 

Anonymous
 
I have a subscribed card from Directv. When I first enabled this service I was able to watch PPV movies(had to select the movies and pretend to buy them) much like with the HU cards. After a very short while I started to receive a message on screen that stated that my card was full and to contact customer service. Does anyone know how to clean the card.
Thanks
Tee
 

addios amigos
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anon,You can't clean the card.DTV has not been hacked and programmable yet.

Kenneth and bjkidd,I'm leaving because this forum can NEVER change due to the lack of a required registration.There will always be kids faking and disguising to be other posters here.It' can't be helped or stopped.Ignoring others daily and constantly is impossible,it's just not human nature and its irritating.So why put up with it.I'm leaving for sure.Why put up with it when you don't have to? This is not a war,its just aggravating and why put yourself through that,when you don't need to.There are many other good sites out there,with rules and info that are friendly but have control,unlike here now.Home is where you lay your hat,not where you began.We all changed homes in our lives at some time,for various reasons.

You mentioned that "registered" sites are "too hot",not true.They always had hacks and good info with the HU cards and do now with Dish,Bev and FTA.This site has a registration too (but not required,so what makes you think this site is "cooler,and not "too hot".

Hope to see you and everyone elsewhere, where we can actually converse/exchange info, without the obstacles and irritation here from the kids and fakes and imposters.
 

applebee is a teenager punk
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THIS C&P REFLECTS WHAT REALLY HAPPENED HERE...

American Eagle
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Posted on Saturday, October 02, 2004 - 11:35 pm:

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I totally agree with addios anego ... when I started reading this site 3 months ago it was a good site and I did learn much from the talented and well mannered people that posted here.
But then a joker arrived and the site started to decline...and since 2 weeks ago a group of evil teenager punks have raised hell and turned this site into a horrible nightmare.
Why their joy for chaos and destruction ? Can't they understand that they are causing a great damage to many people and also to themselves ? Teenagers will drive America to its ruin .
 

Bronze Member
Username: Martin

Ontario Canada

Post Number: 83
Registered: Jul-04
so go we are here for card info not the other crap
 

007
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I sure hope applebee hasnt changed his username to Billy Hill Joe...soumnds like the same looser Im sure...these guys are so juvenille......bunch of 14 yr olds. Oh hi martin hows dennis
 

Anonymous
 
one of applebee's other usernames is Benny HillJoe , not Billie ...so its definitely not him...
 

THE-TRUTH
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*************** DEBATE BETWEEN KENNITH "KERRY" DAVID vs: APPLEBEE "W. BUSH" ****************

1.- KENNITH says home is where U started, while applebee says home is where U can lay your hat...HAH...nobody wears hats anymore...only bald peepz and old farts...

Both are wrong...HOME IS WHERE YOUR HEARTH IS...
So nobody gets any points...ZERO...NADA...

2.- KENNITH says the HACK will appear on a "cool" site as this one...while applebee says it can appear on "any" site...

Both are wrong...THERE WILL NEVER BE ANY HACK...
So nobody gets any points...ZERO...NADA...

3.- Now, this sire is not like your HOME....its more like your BAR or PUB. So if some teenager punks come to terrorize, what would U do ?
KENNITH would stay and fight back...while applebee would run away like a scared dog...

Both are wrong...BULLIES AND COWARDS ARE STUPIT PEEPZ...but at least cowards dont get "hurt"...
So applebee (What a chicken) gets ½ point...

Sorry news, but The Truth is The Truth...




THE TRUTH
 

Silver Member
Username: Jmill1948

Chester, Va Usa

Post Number: 334
Registered: Apr-04
i will release information on nfl site..........peace....jmill
 

Trainwreck
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Anyone have the web address for the freetv49 website? Thanks.
 

Bronze Member
Username: Bjkidd

Post Number: 14
Registered: Jun-04
now how can i get to the nfl site and
keep reading real stuff like what happened
to Walter and his dave issue
 

Go There ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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http://nflguy2003.proboards19.com/index.cgi?board=general
 

rt
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THE TRUTH it would be nice if you'd drop by and give us an update.....please....one of the good guys
 

rt
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oh btw... u guys are blaming everything on poor applebee.....applebee.... is the voice aka peckerhead... but dsskid....is the impersonator...aka WHITEFOLKS....sorry to set it straight for all u applebee wannabee's....in god we trust...all others pay cash
 

applebee
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rt....... U dont know what you're talking about...

 

Bronze Member
Username: Wantedman

Post Number: 46
Registered: May-04
i registered on the nfl sight when it was first started but now it wont let me in, a little help please. thanks
 

Silver Member
Username: Deaf

Post Number: 111
Registered: Aug-04
Calvin is your user name and password correct, did you check the box, that says stay logged in? email freetv49@hotmail.com if problem still exists
 

Lets Go-Go
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Now everybodyz goin to the nflguy's

place....... :-O ...........Yay !!

 

Silver Member
Username: Deaf

Post Number: 112
Registered: Aug-04
For those that are interested.....the doors are open at the nflguy's site for registration.....won't last too long....peace
 

applebee
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deaf.........can U endorse me so I can get in there ??

 

New member
Username: Appiebee

Post Number: 4
Registered: Sep-04
Yeh Right....maybe if u were the real applebee
 

Life is good
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HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!
Every few days I pass by to read the posts. I see that most people here are getting real annoid by the trouble maker here. Personally, reading the trouble makers posts makes me feel good about myself. WHY? Cause it reminds I have a good life, unlike the trouble maker. I feel sorry for the guy. Being an A$$HOLE here is obviously the best his life gets. The poor guy spends all his time here all day long on all the threads typing away, WHAT A LOSER. People, think about how pathetic an individual this guy is and how bad his real life has to be. Man, if I had nothing better to do and decided to spend my entire day at Ecoustics EVERY SINGLE DAY, I think I wuld kill myself. The guy has proven he must not have any real freinds to occupy his time, tragically his happiest moments in life happen to be when he acts stupid here. So by reading the countless idiotic posts from this guy, I realize just how much better my life is than some people. In conclusion, I expect our trouble maker freind will retaliate and continue to act like an idiot, as I said, being here is the best this guy's life gets. As human beings we all have to do things we enjoy to make it through the day. So my message to you my trouble making freind, eventhough spending your entire day here is pitafly pathetic, its what makes you happiest. What makes me happiest is getting laid which is what I'm going to do now and oh yeah, its something I know you know NOTHING about (sucks to be you).


Try jerking off a little more or something. Atleast your hands should be in shape from all the usless typing you do here. LOL

Just my 2 cents
 

tanker
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There is not 1 trouble maker here,which you would know if you read the posts as you stated.There are at least 10 and they ALL impersonate each other.This is Disneyworld here.

If your life is so good,then why did you spend the time to write a BOOK,instead of a simple post.Maybe you need to do a reality check yourself.
 

Not a Troublemaker
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Well.... I am the lonesome pathetic dude that lives here at ecoustics.....and the reason Im always here is cause Im jobless... and my wife kicked me out of the house... and my kids dont even talk to me... and even my dog barks at me..... and my friends dont call me cause I dont have any money.... its only me and my computer living in the streets....

 

THE-TRUTH
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************* THE --NFLGUY'S-- SITE ***************


OK Guys......Since all the regulars and intelligent peepz here are moveing to ...... http://nflguy2003.proboards19.com
I decided to go there and check it out....and this is the disgusting recount of what I saw.....

... I saw all those fat ...flat-assed old farts ...all just in their underware....drinking beer and looking at CHILD P0RN.....I saw one jacking off and even one of them was giving the nflguy a blowjob ...
What a disgusting scene....I was about to throw up...
Of course they knew shit about the hack... they just get together there to do all their perverse and filthy deeds.

So I've decided to stay here at ecoustics.com....
You see,... I rather be here among you retarded idiotic morons than in that degenerate shithole site.

This is THE TRUTH and nothing but THE TRUTH



THE TRUTH
 

Applebee3
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That warms my heart...
 

Bronze Member
Username: Hamtec

Post Number: 57
Registered: Jun-04
Well I guess we will never hack the p5/p4 card with all this shet going on. If anyone whats to hack these card talk to me. I think there is a lot of other sites for these idiot to chat on this site is for the hacker.
 

Anonymous
 
Things that make me puke .....Spinning around and around, or smelling something really gross, like someone else's puke, EWWW, or reading the posts on this site, UGH !!


 

Bronze Member
Username: Hamtec

Post Number: 59
Registered: Jun-04
Just a thought! For hacking p4/p5 we need a subbed Camid and zkt codes that let Dave know we are athurized for the video packets then the ASIC on the card will decode the ecrypted signal. If this is true and the camid and zkt codes are embedded into the card why can we not Clone subbed camid and zkt code before the card ( spoofer board ) to fool the data stream into thinking we are authorized then the ASIC will then decode the ecryped signal. Meaning if we answer the athorization question before the card all we need from the card is the ASIC to decode the signal there for we have a hack. Or this will show how stupid I am.
 

sabre tooth
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Some one mentioned in a post awhile ago that you needed p4 cards that start with 12 or 13 to have a chance of hacking them. Some one also said some of the earlier cards had some loop holes in them.

The 2 cards i have start with 5 and 6 does anyone have a guess or an idea if these cards will be any good?
 

Anonymous
 
13 and under are all good
 

applebee is gone
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I miss my nfl today
Unregistered guest
A p4 card running wide open in the newmarket area, lasted 7 days, They are having trouble unlooping the card , but say they will get it soon. They also say that when they get it right it will be almost impossible for dave to ecm.
 

Anonymous
 
Yay !
 

yes thanks sathouse
Unregistered guest
guys just www.sathouse.com.pa has a activation fix out there a little backed up but they will if your a little patient deliver the goods and you will watch dave tv.
YES this is good for Canadians
 

Anonymous
 
SCAMMERS
 

thanks sathouse
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Yes thnaks again sathouse.com.pa you guys are awesome thanks
again
 

Yahoooooo
Unregistered guest
Horray im finally watching dvae from sathouse.com.pa
thanks
 

im really H O R NY
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i KNOW IM SORRY
 

Punjabi Da
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so why dont you jerk off and stop bitching
 

THANKS SATHOUSE.COM.PA
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yA I DONT KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEM WITH APPLEBEE IS HE JUST CANT STAND PEEPS TO WATCH DAVE, HES GOT TO TRY AND DISCREDIT ALL SITES INCLUDDING this one)sathouse.com.pa) with no proof whats so ever.
Peeps go to the site were 9000 memebers stay. Read the post on there forums to back up claim they have a activation fix right now. There very very busy with all the orders but if your a little patient the BIG GUY will get to you.
 

Anonymous
 
what kind of site is this?you all sound like a bunch of PANLEIROS!!GROW UP!let's stick to the game plan!
 

yes finally
Unregistered guest
yA I DONT KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEM WITH APPLEBEE IS HE JUST CANT STAND PEEPS TO WATCH DAVE, HES GOT TO TRY AND DISCREDIT ALL SITES INCLUDDING this one)sathouse.com.pa) with no proof whats so ever.
Peeps go to the site were 9000 memebers stay. Read the post on there forums to back up claim they have a activation fix right now. There very very busy with all the orders but if your a little patient the BIG GUY will get to you.
 

yes finally
Unregistered guest
yA I DONT KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEM WITH APPLEBEE IS HE JUST CANT STAND PEEPS TO WATCH DAVE, HES GOT TO TRY AND DISCREDIT ALL SITES INCLUDDING this one)sathouse.com.pa) with no proof whats so ever.
Peeps go to the site were 9000 memebers stay. Read the post on there forums to back up claim they have a activation fix right now. There very very busy with all the orders but if your a little patient the BIG GUY will get to you.
 

OK THEN
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yA I DONT KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEM WITH APPLEBEE IS HE JUST CANT STAND PEEPS TO WATCH DAVE, HES GOT TO TRY AND DISCREDIT ALL SITES INCLUDDING this one)sathouse.com.pa) with no proof whats so ever.
Peeps go to the site were 9000 memebers stay. Read the post on there forums to back up claim they have a activation fix right now. There very very busy with all the orders but if your a little patient the BIG GUY will get to you.
 

the real applebeee
Unregistered guest
FU...another SCAM...go ahead,give them your money,but don't come whining when U get nothing in return!
 

the real applebeee
Unregistered guest
scam
 

god
Unregistered guest
It's really a shame....how the most popular thread on the internet......has turned into the worse thread on the internet....wonder if we could change that?.....is that too much to ask for?....god
 

applebee
Unregistered guest

yes.... even I'm ashamed to post here anymore ...


 

dumb $hit
Unregistered guest
So stop FUCK_FACE
 

Fucken_ fed_up
Unregistered guest
People the key to getting rid of that Fucking_Fag Applebitch and any other retard is just ignore, ignore, ignore, ignore, ignore ................................................................................ ............
 

Anonymous
 
o.k. people the only way to get rid of these idiots is to completely ignore their posts!!!see,they feed off the people who respond,they are the worst human form,they are leeches!!so,remember ignore!!eventually they leave.And yes,I must agree,what was the best thread site on the net has turned into the worst!Remember,ignore!!I still believe we can restore the integrity of this thread,we can bring it back to be the most informative thread.Let's not give up people!!....peace
 

Anonymous
 
APPLEBEE"S NOT THE PROBLEM>>>>>U..ARE
 

Anonymous
 
THIS IS WHAT I MEAN!!!YOU PEOPLE STILL RESPOND TO THESE IDIOTS!! I G N O R E !! OR YOU ALSO BECOME THE PROBLEM....peace
 

Punjabi Da
Unregistered guest
I aint answerin to those idiots no more !!!
 

Bob Dylan
Unregistered guest

I aint goin' to Maggie's farm no more....


 

I love daVE
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I DONT KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEM WITH APPLEBEE IS HE JUST CANT STAND PEEPS TO WATCH DAVE, HES GOT TO TRY AND DISCREDIT ALL SITES INCLUDDING this one)sathouse.com.pa) with no proof whats so ever.
Peeps go to the site were 9000 memebers stay. Read the post on there forums to back up claim they have a activation fix right now. There very very busy with all the orders but if your a little patient the BIG GUY will get to you.
 

can't take this anymore
Unregistered guest
Ok I'm ignoring the f'kn idiots, would like to ask one question with an honest answer,where do we stand on this fix? What has been acheived, and what has not, are we any closer than we were 2 months ago,someone please fill us in?
 

scam man
Unregistered guest
not on this site
 

Paulops
Unregistered guest
Whats new
 

Paulops
Unregistered guest
Whats new
 

can't take this anymore
Unregistered guest
Ok then let us know on the nfl site
 

hello stay away
Unregistered guest
Go home then to your sissy site nfl,whatever.
 

can't take this anymore
Unregistered guest
I went to the nflguy site to check it out....and this is what I saw......... I saw all those fat ...flat-assed old farts ...all just in their underware....drinking beer and looking at CHILD P0RN.....I saw one jacking off and even one of them was giving the nflguy a blowjob ...
What a disgusting scene....I was about to throw up.........Of course they knew shit about the hack... they just get together there to do all their perverse and filthy deeds
 

fido
Unregistered guest
There is NO public hack available on ANY site now.
 

Mr. Bean
Unregistered guest
So will the Black Sunday bootstrap work with a subbed card or not?
 

cork
Unregistered guest
nope
 

THE-TRUTH
Unregistered guest
What's there to say? Unfortunately, NOTHING. This will be my last post (the last couple of retarded posts as "THE TRUTH" were not from me). As everyone should know by now there is NO DAVE HACK. I know many of you come to the forums hoping to hear word of a fix, but tragically there will be no fix for a long time. It is being worked on but we are still LONG AWAY FROM OUR DESTINATION (DAVE HACK). If you're waiting for the fix with no TV, you're going to be TVless for a long while. If you don't want to believe me, whatever, you'll see. Every major dealer (as well as the large dealer I have refered to in previous posts) say they have no expectations of a fix any time soon. I am aware that no one wants to hear this, but at the same time you need to know the truth. If you feel the need to test, switch to Charlie or Bev, Dave is a no go unless you're subbing from him. Unless the hacking community gets lucky again (as we did with the insider info from NDS about gliching into the HU), we are still 6 months to a year (in my educated opion) away from good news. Insider hacking info is not likely going to be leaked, so that means the hacking community definately has its work cut out for itself to say the least.


I hope that my posts here at Ecoustics have helped. I'm sorry that there's no good news to speak of, but what can you do. I wish all you guys luck, be smart and don't let yourselves get scammed. It's time for me to go back underground, but I promise I will return here to Ecoustics and inform everyone of the fix when we have it.





THE TRUTH



 

the real applebee
Unregistered guest
TRUTH..Long post but nothing really said,that we don't already know..but again,as I have stated here a few times,I believe we are closer to a public hack than many realize..Its been hacked for sure!...and wide open for 17 days,then looped (IVAC)and that was 4-5 months ago..so in time,and less than you might think,we will see it..its just a matter of "tweaking" it,then making it PUBLIC in the right manner,places and time to avoid prosecution and reap the rewards..
 

THE-TRUTH
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SORRY.......I WAS JUST KIDDING......LOL








THE TRUTH
 

THE-TRUTH........ lies
Unregistered guest
What a pile of horse manure....My dealer says the hack will be out in two weeks ...
 

Good-Bye..........!!
Unregistered guest
GOOD-BYE TO THE-TRUTH !!

Good-Bye !!!!......and Thank You for your guidance and your helpful insight...
We also wish you the best of lucks and that you have a happy life....
We will miss you and always remember you with affection and respect....
So, farewell and "Vaya con Dios, amigo"....

The P4&5 programing Thread
.....

 

ya right then
Unregistered guest
DONT KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEM WITH APPLEBEE IS HE JUST CANT STAND PEEPS TO WATCH DAVE, HES GOT TO TRY AND DISCREDIT ALL SITES INCLUDDING this one)sathouse.com.pa) with no proof whats so ever.
Peeps go to the site were 9000 memebers stay. Read the post on there forums to back up claim they have a activation fix right now. There very very busy with all the orders but if your a little patient the BIG GUY will get to you
 

Osamabinladen very low
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GIVE US A BREAK FROM UR BULLSHlT........THE GAMES OVER
 

satellite_molestor
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people the outlook is grim. THE TRUTH knows his sh1t and other forums and web cites are reporting the same thing. i dont think i can wait another 6 months watching a black screen. charlie sucks and is a b1tch to test but its better then nothing. never thought i would see the day, but i now see the time has come. RIP dave.
 

RIP OFF
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if your getting an email Mr sengs imports cocerning the p400 don't answer, don't call, or even try to trace it. Reliable sources (gov employees I used to work with) inform me it is a trap site being used by Dave. Uses acompany of webheads that track any hits on the site. even if it is just to tell them not to send any more mail. Some how it's a blind send, just to see who answers. My buds told Dave's lawyer to take a hike, and suggested they needed to shut down, they were slightly illegal. Boy was that a relief. So, hi folks.
 

The President of DIRECTV
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WHY A P4 HACK IS IMPOSSIBLE

First, the background:
To watch a particular channel, the receiver needs to receiver a DES key, 80 bits in length, every 8 seconds.
Random data, generated (from a strong random source) at DTV headquarters, and sent to a card with all the tiers at dave headquarters. The result from that golden card is used as the DES key -- Even DTV can't predict the key. The tiers are added to that card through local communication -- not on the public stream.
The core of the encryption is the ASIC, which implements a seeded psuedo-
random number stream in hardware. Only a few designers know how this works.
When a new generation of card is added, DTV runs those cards in PARALLEL, takes the XOR of their results, and sends that in the compatibility packets (CMD7F) - so there is no relation between the ASICs in each generation.


So.. how to attack this:
The IRD?
The IRD is worthless from the hacking perspective. It just relays packets to and from the data stream to the card. Without the card, the IRD has no way of knowing what a golden card would return.
Note that one DBS board, iso reader and subbed card, along with (unwritten?) software could give you an IRDless setup.
Finally, many different manufacturers make IRDs. Anyone who can talk a good story could probably get the specifications under NDA from DTV.

DTV itself:
There is a reluctance to this, as most people like to consider collecting signals as not a moral offense, but actually intruding into a foreign system with intent to acquire data is a different story. That said, there has been at least one court document which detailed the security precautions taken by DTV with access card data. These precautions, assuming they are followed, include air gaps between sensitive systems and internal machines. If you were capable of getting into DTV's internal network, you would also be capable of finding much more lucrative targets with more of a chance of reward...

That leaves the card....

The obvious target is the ASIC, which historically has been designed by NDS. NDS is a company with a large degree of cryptographic experience. Adi Shamir, one of the fathers of public key cryptography (and the S in RSA) is one of the founders of NDS. Since the H card, the ASIC has never been compromised -- not even with attacks discovered after their designs, such as Kocher's timing attack. And that's even if I can GET at the ASIC.

So, what about the old standbys...

First, software attacks. Dishnet has been very susceptible to these, as was the H card. During the design of the HU card, DTV instituted line-by-line code reviews, and common error handling via Trap #9. These resulted in COMPLETE success -- no exploitable software bugs were found in the HU card even after a complete disassembly.
Conclusion - there is unlikely to be any exploitable software bugs in the P4 family...

Protocol Weakness...

The next question might be, is there something in the protocol that can be repeated, dropped, or otherwise missused. DTV's protocol has been very strong from the beginning -- using Zero Knowlege tests for the CAMID and public key encrypted and digitally signed packets. The card swap mechanism was strongly designed to avoid weaknesses -- and,even if there were holes, the liability would be limitted. Nor does the card have any concept of a "channel" -- its all in the encrypted packet which results in the DES key. Finally, the P4 card will disable itself through a write-once area if you sent too many bad packets to it.

Information extraction (using passive means)

Timing, power analysis, or even "listening" to the card reveals nothing except for possibly ZKT information (if you wanted to scam people with a CAMID/ZKT pair....). Getting timing information from the ASIC requires executing code on the card -- and there are techniques to prevent this, such as random loops, redundant calculation and normalization (always do the operation and then throw away the results that aren't needed).
So, that doesn't help.

Glitching... our old friend..
Glitching will be defined as ANY attack which varies any physical parameter of the card, be it the old standards (power, clock) or new (light, targeted magnetic fields) or absurd (alpha particle bombardment).
There are three defenses to overcome....
1. a capacitor provides for a steady current -- nix the voltage glitching and there are detectors should you bypass (fib edit) or destroy the capacitor. So even if you COULD bypass the capacitor on your card -- how do you package a very expensive FIB (focused ION beam) machine with every loader?!...
2. An internal clock so no clock glitching, and synchronizing your glitches is very, very tricky...
3. Finally, the last measure of protection -- software tricks against glitching... even with the ROM dump, these tricks are hard to get around, as was seen with the Hu. With the P4, these are improved. Examples include reading a random number from a hardware RNG, dividing it by a constant (variable amount of time), and remultiplying and checking the result. Since each divide/multiply takes a random amount of time, based on the random number, you won't know how to time a glitch to get past the jump on the incorrect result -- and if you glitch early, you muck up either the divide or multiply, and the software has caught you!

Together these defenses make glitching into this card practically impossible.
(if you know a good way around the divide/multiply method.. please let me know)

Physical security...
So, giving up on all the non destructive attacks, lets say I rip apart my card, take out the chip, remove layers with incredibly hazardous chemicals (shortening my lifespan in the process). Northsat did this on the Hu, and DTV doesn't make mistakes twice. For the P4 and later, there are physical tamper protections. There are thin wires in the protective metal layers above the processor which, if dissolved, result in the card not powering up. Manually patching all of these will be tedious. FUrther, the P4 has light sensitive areas, so you have to do all this in the dark! Finally, the core layout of key chips is spaghetti because of cell-based design and better layout software (poor mask designers...) so you'll need a electron microscope (or better) and a laser voltage probe to even figure out what is going on.. and a lot of time, patience and money..

So the most accessible approach is to make very good friends with the janitor at a well equipped college campus, or sleep with a very well connected DTV employee and con them out of the documents...

Assuming that you get the complete ROM dump (by either means) and you have the Opcodes, and you find, miracle of miracles, an unchecked buffer overflow. Glitching still won't work, so this is your only chance.

Now, the parts that make this really tough:

Non-executable EEPROm -- (can anyone confirm?) This means that even if you found a bug, you have to apply your patch every time the card resets. This means an interposer or IRD modification to send down the exploit. On the other hand, it means that dynamic updates are less likely..

Less safe space to store code --
Since the P4 is split into multiple cores, there is very little general purpose RAM for a complicated 3M -- copying code from eeprom (assuming you can find space) into ram is going to make writing any sort of code for this card a real nuisance.

fatal ECMs:
Since glitching is impossible, the first ECM you get hit with is the last. Since the supply of new P4s is still limitted, 3M writing is going to be like breakdancing in a minefield...Activation and PPV wipes will be tough to hit, although anything out of the ordinary - like incorrect dates, unknown tiers, or corrupted group keys, and you have another ice scraper.

...

And, the final reasons why no one would bother with any of the above:
The internet:
As soona s you start selling a means to do this, it will be ripped off. Unless you program every card individually (high, high risk), you'll find out how quickly a serial logger can open "encrypted" WinExplorer scripts. And as soon as someone figures out your bug, it will be on EVERY dss site within an hour. If you make custom hardware, it will be reverse engineered, since your security budget is less than DTV's....

and ... the long arm of the law..

If someone decided to be a hero, and hacked the P4, and found a bug, and released the activation, and got jackshit for it... well, you'd have free TV until someone turns you in for a hefty reward (contact signal integrity for details of the reward program), ruins your life with court cases, jail and restitution.. And the bahamas do have extradition treaties with the united states..

The conclusion of all this --
Enjoy dish while it lasts. The sun is setting on the pirate era, and soon you will be paying even more for less.



 

OK RIGHT
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Ya ya ok there Punjabi....we really believe someone from a foreign country. Contact Bigguy if you have a problem at sathouse.com.pa and he will fix you up. You probably put one of those F U C K E D up ex sub cards in your ird
 

Anonymous
 
Don't argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference.
 

New member
Username: Applebee

Post Number: 1
Registered: Sep-04
BULLSHlT
 

Go away applebee
Unregistered guest
You should know all DAVE's plan's you mole. Applebee i'm really getting tired of all your negativety......just get lost man. Peeps even if a fully open 3m surfaces this mole will post as scammers without(well maybe) fully checking out. Applebee will really hate whena fix does come out othere than the activation they have over a www.sathouse.com.pa.....Oh by the way is working many satisfies peeps already ansd pretty soon half the testers will have it. Applebee's going to look VERY VERY stupid once the word spreads throughout the testing world that sathouse.com.pa has a activation and is WORKING. No this is not just a sub the site payed BIG BIG money to obtain this technology(software) and is working.

Nows He anominous give me a break


as you can see the mole is at it again. This dam DAVE EMPLOYEE ......APPLEBEE WONT GO AWAY.
 

listen here
Unregistered guest
The site is temporarily down with server problems in Panama. They will be up shortly they are very busy,trying to keep up to all orders they've been swamped with so bare with them peeps.

Oh when this applebee or whatever hundred alias's he uses comes on after me to discredit sathouse.com.pa pay no attention. He is payed by dave to discourage you from joining any site that has any sort of p4-5 fix or act. It is his job ...it bothers him and dave when people get free dave tv.
later peeps
 

Pass the 7
Unregistered guest
MORE BS SATHOUSE MOLE
 

from sathouse.com.pa
Unregistered guest
heres a C@p from the site its back up

OK ... SATHOUSE, GUYS AND DOLLS;

This is meant for new as well as existing subscribers

Were finally at a point, that we need to re-address this activation system and our options..

First let us, apologize to all of you that have waited patiently and to those of you that didn't also.we fully, understand your frustrations and concerns.

When we first put all this together, we had tested it and found it to be not only workable, but easy for the purchaser to receive and use. Like all things that are made by humans, there will be built in bugs and problems..we just didn't now how many or how persistent and problematic they would turn out to be.

Add to that, "DAVE" began jumping into the middle of it by capturing the Cam I.D.'s that were kicked out, the uplink having problems, the servers going down, the last mile of fiber optic cable serving our servers in Panama being damaged..boy, is this "MURPHY'S LAW" at work or what ?

What we do have is still a great value for only a "BUCK A DAY" and it includes the TOTAL CHOICE PREMIERE DTV PACKAGE, you'll get all the benefits of having the best package. That's over 210 channels - with all of the great base programming and the most comprehensive movie channel lineup, plus a variety of sports.

Add to that:

HBO - 7 HBO channels.

STARZ Super Pak - 12 distinct movie channels, including 4 STARZ! channels, 2 Encore channels and 6 Encore theme channels.*

SHOWTIME UNLIMITED - 5 SHOWTIME channels, 2 channels of The Movie Channel, 1 FLIX channel and 1 Sundance Channel.

Cinemax - 3 Cinemax channels.

SPORTS Pack - Over 25 specialty and regional sports networks, including Fox Sports World, The Outdoor Channel, NBA TV, FUEL, CSTV: College Sports Television and TVG, The Interactive Horseracing Network. (Blackout restrictions apply)

Also add to that, these sports packages (when in season)

NFL SUNDAY TICKEY a $219.00 Value
NBA LEAGUE PASS a $169.00 Value
ESPN GAME PLAN a $119.00 Value

If you had to subscribe to all of these your cost would be staggering, and not the simple "BUCK A DAY" that we charge.

Now for some of the less than great news.

As for PPV's, we have struggled with keeping them up and for some reason we cannot at this time..this is a tough break, but it's not forever. We will keep working on them and when we get them, you'll get them.

Until then all we can say is what you get is what you get.some will get some and some will get none.and some more than others for some reason, we haven't figured that out yet, but we will.

We do have a PPV wiper that we will send to anyone that wants to try itas long as you are a paid Instaload Subscriber...it has worked for a few and not for others.if it works for you, great, if not, hey you tried. This is NOT to shared with your friends or non members of Sathouse, to do so will violate the TOS and your account and sub will be cancelled.

As soon as we resolve the PPV issues and can get them to stay on the cards, You'll be the first ones to get it. If someone modifies or gets the PPV wipe that we are passing out to work, then we'll share that with you.

Next, for the cards, DAVE has been modifying his system and is now collecting the CAM's that are kicked out of the system (not trace them, but collect them and tag them so their unusable)..thus making each card a single use card.

This has been one of the main reasons for our slowness in getting a lot of your cards redone or for our delay in hitting your second card.we were trying to solve this situation, and have come to the conclusion that this is the situation that we'll have to deal with for the time being and work on it as time passes.

This doesn't mean that the card will "NEVER" be good again, but until something changes it will not work in the near future.So if your card gets any error message "AFTER THE INITIAL ACTIVATION" attempt, you will need to get a new card and it should be a "VIRGIN" card to give you the best chances of getting some PPV's and for longevity. IF you choose to use a previously sub'd card, we cannot be sure what will occur, it may work, and it may not.but its your choice.

These seem to be large changes but keep in mind the overall picture here.we are still offering a huge package of DTV for a real small fee of only a "BUCK A DAY" and considering all that you get, that's a real bargain. We will of course continue to work on resolving all of this, but if it never gets resolved you are still getting a real value for that "BUCK A DAY"

We will be submitting only (10) cam's a day in order to keep a tight control on this, and we'll be giving you a date for activation as we do this.. The time from acceptance to turn on will be a max of 96 hours or sooner. You will be given a link to a page that is specific to, either NEW subs, or for REPLACEMENT cards. Once the form is filled out and submitted you will be given a time frame in which you will be activated, this will occur in 96 hours or less. Once you submit the form, any additional emails, will only slow the process down, so give us a chance to do our jobs.

We will only be offering this to "SATHOUSE" members until all have received the offer, and if the group of members that receive the offer in a given week, don't act upon the offer, it will be withdrawn and then offered to a waiting list of persons that have asked for the opportunity for activation.

If we find your card not acceptable in the system we will contact you and you can then locate a "VIRGIN" card to replace it with. "WE DON'T SELL CARDS" .WE have checked and these cards are available on Ebay from about $19 to around $40..

If you use a newer receiver and when you put the card in the receiver the card # and the receiver # comes up on the screen, we will need both those numbers in order to activate you. Yes this will work with TIVO. Older receivers are actually better for this, but the new ones will work too.

WE know this a bit of a change for some of you, but in the bigger picture its great to have DTV back again .
We don't mean to be rude, but at this time, we are the only site that has brought out something for the P4/P5/D1 cards, and even with its minor faults, and it's limitations at the present, its a bargain at only a "BUCK A DAY"

We will be contacting those subs whose cards have been hit and were rejected in the system, and of course those of you that have a card that has any of the error messages at all after the initial activation, will know that you'll need to acquire another card, preferably a "VIRGIN" card, otherwise we cannot be sure it will be accepted in the system..

When you do have the new card, be sure to use the appropriate form provided for that information, so we can get you into the que and get you activated. We will adjust start dates for all the subs that have problems, so you will not loose time you've paid for.

NOTE** THE ACTIVATION FORM IS NOT ACTIVE AT THIS MOMENT.TEMPORARILY, YOU WILL NEED TO SEND THE INFORMATION TO INSTALOAD@SATHOUSE.COM.PA DO NOT SEND ANY OTHER INFORMATION OR NOTES TO THIS ADDRESS, IF YOU DO, THE EMAIL WILL BE DELETED AND YOU WILL DELAY YOUR ACTIVATION. WE WILL JUMP ON THESE AS SOON AS THEY ARE RECEIVED..AND YOU WILL BE GIVEN A TIME FRAME OF ABOUT 72 HOURS OR LESS FOR ACTIVATION.

INFORMATION FOR NEW STARTS:
IN THE SUBJECT LINE OF YOUR EMAIL, PUT YOUR FORUM NAME AND THE WORD "NEW"

YOUR EMAIL ADDY
YOUR FORUM NAME
NEW OR VIRGIN CARD CAM I.D. #
RECEIVER I.D. # IF IT COMES UP ON SCREEN
MONEY ORDER I.D. #
AMOUNT OF MONEY ORDER

FOR REPLACEMENT CARDS:
IN THE SUBJECT LINE PUT YOUR FORUM NAME AND THE WORD "REPLACEMENT"

YOUR EMAIL ADDY
YOUR FORUM NAME
YOUR OLD CARD CAM I.D. #
THE REPLACEMENT "VIRGIN" CARD CAM I.D. #
RECEIVER NUMBER IF IT COMES UP ON THE SCREEN





We know these differences will not set well with some, and it will do fine for most. The bottom line is this is what we have at the moment, and of course as I said before, we'll keep working on it to make it better.

Thanks for your support and patience from the crew of Sathouse.com.pa

Sniper, Bigguy, and JB
 

Punjavi Da
Unregistered guest

Sathouse is a big RIP-OFF.....I sent them the money and they promised me 6 months guarantee..... and after watching dave for 1 month the screen went 721 and that means a black screen and I called them again and again and again and they dont do shit.....so people stay away from those low life scammers .....so you dont feel like an idiot like me....
Also they are a STUPID LIERS ....and they dont answer my e-mail .... so how can domebody trust them .....they are a son of a bitch.....
I am telling the truth peoples .... dont buy from that thiefs... they are going to HELL..


 

its here boys
Unregistered guest
hEY PUNJABI YOU WINER..just contaxct the site and they will fix you up you bs'er...you make me sick you dave mole.

OK ... SATHOUSE, GUYS AND DOLLS;

This is meant for new as well as existing subscribers

Were finally at a point, that we need to re-address this activation system and our options..

First let us, apologize to all of you that have waited patiently and to those of you that didn't also.we fully, understand your frustrations and concerns.

When we first put all this together, we had tested it and found it to be not only workable, but easy for the purchaser to receive and use. Like all things that are made by humans, there will be built in bugs and problems..we just didn't now how many or how persistent and problematic they would turn out to be.

Add to that, "DAVE" began jumping into the middle of it by capturing the Cam I.D.'s that were kicked out, the uplink having problems, the servers going down, the last mile of fiber optic cable serving our servers in Panama being damaged..boy, is this "MURPHY'S LAW" at work or what ?

What we do have is still a great value for only a "BUCK A DAY" and it includes the TOTAL CHOICE PREMIERE DTV PACKAGE, you'll get all the benefits of having the best package. That's over 210 channels - with all of the great base programming and the most comprehensive movie channel lineup, plus a variety of sports.

Add to that:

HBO - 7 HBO channels.

STARZ Super Pak - 12 distinct movie channels, including 4 STARZ! channels, 2 Encore channels and 6 Encore theme channels.*

SHOWTIME UNLIMITED - 5 SHOWTIME channels, 2 channels of The Movie Channel, 1 FLIX channel and 1 Sundance Channel.

Cinemax - 3 Cinemax channels.

SPORTS Pack - Over 25 specialty and regional sports networks, including Fox Sports World, The Outdoor Channel, NBA TV, FUEL, CSTV: College Sports Television and TVG, The Interactive Horseracing Network. (Blackout restrictions apply)

Also add to that, these sports packages (when in season)

NFL SUNDAY TICKEY a $219.00 Value
NBA LEAGUE PASS a $169.00 Value
ESPN GAME PLAN a $119.00 Value

If you had to subscribe to all of these your cost would be staggering, and not the simple "BUCK A DAY" that we charge.

Now for some of the less than great news.

As for PPV's, we have struggled with keeping them up and for some reason we cannot at this time..this is a tough break, but it's not forever. We will keep working on them and when we get them, you'll get them.

Until then all we can say is what you get is what you get.some will get some and some will get none.and some more than others for some reason, we haven't figured that out yet, but we will.

We do have a PPV wiper that we will send to anyone that wants to try itas long as you are a paid Instaload Subscriber...it has worked for a few and not for others.if it works for you, great, if not, hey you tried. This is NOT to shared with your friends or non members of Sathouse, to do so will violate the TOS and your account and sub will be cancelled.

As soon as we resolve the PPV issues and can get them to stay on the cards, You'll be the first ones to get it. If someone modifies or gets the PPV wipe that we are passing out to work, then we'll share that with you.

Next, for the cards, DAVE has been modifying his system and is now collecting the CAM's that are kicked out of the system (not trace them, but collect them and tag them so their unusable)..thus making each card a single use card.

This has been one of the main reasons for our slowness in getting a lot of your cards redone or for our delay in hitting your second card.we were trying to solve this situation, and have come to the conclusion that this is the situation that we'll have to deal with for the time being and work on it as time passes.

This doesn't mean that the card will "NEVER" be good again, but until something changes it will not work in the near future.So if your card gets any error message "AFTER THE INITIAL ACTIVATION" attempt, you will need to get a new card and it should be a "VIRGIN" card to give you the best chances of getting some PPV's and for longevity. IF you choose to use a previously sub'd card, we cannot be sure what will occur, it may work, and it may not.but its your choice.

These seem to be large changes but keep in mind the overall picture here.we are still offering a huge package of DTV for a real small fee of only a "BUCK A DAY" and considering all that you get, that's a real bargain. We will of course continue to work on resolving all of this, but if it never gets resolved you are still getting a real value for that "BUCK A DAY"

We will be submitting only (10) cam's a day in order to keep a tight control on this, and we'll be giving you a date for activation as we do this.. The time from acceptance to turn on will be a max of 96 hours or sooner. You will be given a link to a page that is specific to, either NEW subs, or for REPLACEMENT cards. Once the form is filled out and submitted you will be given a time frame in which you will be activated, this will occur in 96 hours or less. Once you submit the form, any additional emails, will only slow the process down, so give us a chance to do our jobs.

We will only be offering this to "SATHOUSE" members until all have received the offer, and if the group of members that receive the offer in a given week, don't act upon the offer, it will be withdrawn and then offered to a waiting list of persons that have asked for the opportunity for activation.

If we find your card not acceptable in the system we will contact you and you can then locate a "VIRGIN" card to replace it with. "WE DON'T SELL CARDS" .WE have checked and these cards are available on Ebay from about $19 to around $40..

If you use a newer receiver and when you put the card in the receiver the card # and the receiver # comes up on the screen, we will need both those numbers in order to activate you. Yes this will work with TIVO. Older receivers are actually better for this, but the new ones will work too.

WE know this a bit of a change for some of you, but in the bigger picture its great to have DTV back again .
We don't mean to be rude, but at this time, we are the only site that has brought out something for the P4/P5/D1 cards, and even with its minor faults, and it's limitations at the present, its a bargain at only a "BUCK A DAY"

We will be contacting those subs whose cards have been hit and were rejected in the system, and of course those of you that have a card that has any of the error messages at all after the initial activation, will know that you'll need to acquire another card, preferably a "VIRGIN" card, otherwise we cannot be sure it will be accepted in the system..

When you do have the new card, be sure to use the appropriate form provided for that information, so we can get you into the que and get you activated. We will adjust start dates for all the subs that have problems, so you will not loose time you've paid for.

NOTE** THE ACTIVATION FORM IS NOT ACTIVE AT THIS MOMENT.TEMPORARILY, YOU WILL NEED TO SEND THE INFORMATION TO INSTALOAD@SATHOUSE.COM.PA DO NOT SEND ANY OTHER INFORMATION OR NOTES TO THIS ADDRESS, IF YOU DO, THE EMAIL WILL BE DELETED AND YOU WILL DELAY YOUR ACTIVATION. WE WILL JUMP ON THESE AS SOON AS THEY ARE RECEIVED..AND YOU WILL BE GIVEN A TIME FRAME OF ABOUT 72 HOURS OR LESS FOR ACTIVATION.

INFORMATION FOR NEW STARTS:
IN THE SUBJECT LINE OF YOUR EMAIL, PUT YOUR FORUM NAME AND THE WORD "NEW"

YOUR EMAIL ADDY
YOUR FORUM NAME
NEW OR VIRGIN CARD CAM I.D. #
RECEIVER I.D. # IF IT COMES UP ON SCREEN
MONEY ORDER I.D. #
AMOUNT OF MONEY ORDER

FOR REPLACEMENT CARDS:
IN THE SUBJECT LINE PUT YOUR FORUM NAME AND THE WORD "REPLACEMENT"

YOUR EMAIL ADDY
YOUR FORUM NAME
YOUR OLD CARD CAM I.D. #
THE REPLACEMENT "VIRGIN" CARD CAM I.D. #
RECEIVER NUMBER IF IT COMES UP ON THE SCREEN



 

Q
Unregistered guest
SORRY BUT CAN GET MY OWN SUBBED CARD.....SCAMMERS
 

fido
Unregistered guest
This thread reminds me of when we were 12 years old,sitting around telling lies about how we got laid...well I see some of those 12 year olds are still telling BS and lies.

what is truth is that NO site has any P4 hack or HONEST DTV subscription to sell..but some ofvthe youngsters are pushing it...they might not be young in age,but young and dumb in the head!
 

KingDave
Unregistered guest
I give all DTV sub peons the movie channels from Oct 15 thru Oct 17, fully free. Yes, totally free HBO, free Showtime, free Sin_the_max, and free Movie channel. Ain't that something? Yes, it's magic, I'm great, I have the codes and I will make it happen. I guarentee it.
 

wise to you
Unregistered guest
Free Preview weekend by DTV
 

sathouse is a winner
Unregistered guest
OK ... SATHOUSE, GUYS AND DOLLS;

This is meant for new as well as existing subscribers

Were finally at a point, that we need to re-address this activation system and our options..

First let us, apologize to all of you that have waited patiently and to those of you that didn't also.we fully, understand your frustrations and concerns.

When we first put all this together, we had tested it and found it to be not only workable, but easy for the purchaser to receive and use. Like all things that are made by humans, there will be built in bugs and problems..we just didn't now how many or how persistent and problematic they would turn out to be.

Add to that, "DAVE" began jumping into the middle of it by capturing the Cam I.D.'s that were kicked out, the uplink having problems, the servers going down, the last mile of fiber optic cable serving our servers in Panama being damaged..boy, is this "MURPHY'S LAW" at work or what ?

What we do have is still a great value for only a "BUCK A DAY" and it includes the TOTAL CHOICE PREMIERE DTV PACKAGE, you'll get all the benefits of having the best package. That's over 210 channels - with all of the great base programming and the most comprehensive movie channel lineup, plus a variety of sports.

Add to that:

HBO - 7 HBO channels.

STARZ Super Pak - 12 distinct movie channels, including 4 STARZ! channels, 2 Encore channels and 6 Encore theme channels.*

SHOWTIME UNLIMITED - 5 SHOWTIME channels, 2 channels of The Movie Channel, 1 FLIX channel and 1 Sundance Channel.

Cinemax - 3 Cinemax channels.

SPORTS Pack - Over 25 specialty and regional sports networks, including Fox Sports World, The Outdoor Channel, NBA TV, FUEL, CSTV: College Sports Television and TVG, The Interactive Horseracing Network. (Blackout restrictions apply)

Also add to that, these sports packages (when in season)

NFL SUNDAY TICKEY a $219.00 Value
NBA LEAGUE PASS a $169.00 Value
ESPN GAME PLAN a $119.00 Value

If you had to subscribe to all of these your cost would be staggering, and not the simple "BUCK A DAY" that we charge.

Now for some of the less than great news.

As for PPV's, we have struggled with keeping them up and for some reason we cannot at this time..this is a tough break, but it's not forever. We will keep working on them and when we get them, you'll get them.

Until then all we can say is what you get is what you get.some will get some and some will get none.and some more than others for some reason, we haven't figured that out yet, but we will.

We do have a PPV wiper that we will send to anyone that wants to try itas long as you are a paid Instaload Subscriber...it has worked for a few and not for others.if it works for you, great, if not, hey you tried. This is NOT to shared with your friends or non members of Sathouse, to do so will violate the TOS and your account and sub will be cancelled.

As soon as we resolve the PPV issues and can get them to stay on the cards, You'll be the first ones to get it. If someone modifies or gets the PPV wipe that we are passing out to work, then we'll share that with you.

Next, for the cards, DAVE has been modifying his system and is now collecting the CAM's that are kicked out of the system (not trace them, but collect them and tag them so their unusable)..thus making each card a single use card.

This has been one of the main reasons for our slowness in getting a lot of your cards redone or for our delay in hitting your second card.we were trying to solve this situation, and have come to the conclusion that this is the situation that we'll have to deal with for the time being and work on it as time passes.

This doesn't mean that the card will "NEVER" be good again, but until something changes it will not work in the near future.So if your card gets any error message "AFTER THE INITIAL ACTIVATION" attempt, you will need to get a new card and it should be a "VIRGIN" card to give you the best chances of getting some PPV's and for longevity. IF you choose to use a previously sub'd card, we cannot be sure what will occur, it may work, and it may not.but its your choice.

These seem to be large changes but keep in mind the overall picture here.we are still offering a huge package of DTV for a real small fee of only a "BUCK A DAY" and considering all that you get, that's a real bargain. We will of course continue to work on resolving all of this, but if it never gets resolved you are still getting a real value for that "BUCK A DAY"

We will be submitting only (10) cam's a day in order to keep a tight control on this, and we'll be giving you a date for activation as we do this.. The time from acceptance to turn on will be a max of 96 hours or sooner. You will be given a link to a page that is specific to, either NEW subs, or for REPLACEMENT cards. Once the form is filled out and submitted you will be given a time frame in which you will be activated, this will occur in 96 hours or less. Once you submit the form, any additional emails, will only slow the process down, so give us a chance to do our jobs.

We will only be offering this to "SATHOUSE" members until all have received the offer, and if the group of members that receive the offer in a given week, don't act upon the offer, it will be withdrawn and then offered to a waiting list of persons that have asked for the opportunity for activation.

If we find your card not acceptable in the system we will contact you and you can then locate a "VIRGIN" card to replace it with. "WE DON'T SELL CARDS" .WE have checked and these cards are available on Ebay from about $19 to around $40..

If you use a newer receiver and when you put the card in the receiver the card # and the receiver # comes up on the screen, we will need both those numbers in order to activate you. Yes this will work with TIVO. Older receivers are actually better for this, but the new ones will work too.

WE know this a bit of a change for some of you, but in the bigger picture its great to have DTV back again .
We don't mean to be rude, but at this time, we are the only site that has brought out something for the P4/P5/D1 cards, and even with its minor faults, and it's limitations at the present, its a bargain at only a "BUCK A DAY"

We will be contacting those subs whose cards have been hit and were rejected in the system, and of course those of you that have a card that has any of the error messages at all after the initial activation, will know that you'll need to acquire another card, preferably a "VIRGIN" card, otherwise we cannot be sure it will be accepted in the system..

When you do have the new card, be sure to use the appropriate form provided for that information, so we can get you into the que and get you activated. We will adjust start dates for all the subs that have problems, so you will not loose time you've paid for.

NOTE** THE ACTIVATION FORM IS NOT ACTIVE AT THIS MOMENT.TEMPORARILY, YOU WILL NEED TO SEND THE INFORMATION TO INSTALOAD@SATHOUSE.COM.PA DO NOT SEND ANY OTHER INFORMATION OR NOTES TO THIS ADDRESS, IF YOU DO, THE EMAIL WILL BE DELETED AND YOU WILL DELAY YOUR ACTIVATION. WE WILL JUMP ON THESE AS SOON AS THEY ARE RECEIVED..AND YOU WILL BE GIVEN A TIME FRAME OF ABOUT 72 HOURS OR LESS FOR ACTIVATION.

INFORMATION FOR NEW STARTS:
IN THE SUBJECT LINE OF YOUR EMAIL, PUT YOUR FORUM NAME AND THE WORD "NEW"

YOUR EMAIL ADDY
YOUR FORUM NAME
NEW OR VIRGIN CARD CAM I.D. #
RECEIVER I.D. # IF IT COMES UP ON SCREEN
MONEY ORDER I.D. #
AMOUNT OF MONEY ORDER

FOR REPLACEMENT CARDS:
IN THE SUBJECT LINE PUT YOUR FORUM NAME AND THE WORD "REPLACEMENT"

YOUR EMAIL ADDY
YOUR FORUM NAME
YOUR OLD CARD CAM I.D. #
THE REPLACEMENT "VIRGIN" CARD CAM I.D. #
RECEIVER NUMBER IF IT COMES UP ON THE SCREEN


 

Punjavi Da
Unregistered guest

I am not applebee you fuckface ...... and u are a sathouse dog ......no....you are the CRAP of that dog......and now everypeople knows sathouse is A BIG SCAM ....and they stole my $180 american dollars .......and they hide and tell you bull shit and LIES and laugh at you ........SO PEOPLE DONT BE STUPID AND BUY ANYTHING FROM THOSE THIEFS.........YOU ARE ONLY GOING TO LOOSE YOUR MONEY AND FEEL LIKE YOU WERE MUGGED AND FEEL LIKE A STUPID IDIOT AND SAY....... WHY DID I SENT THEM MY MONEY !!!

 

YA RIGHT PUNJABI
Unregistered guest
OK ... SATHOUSE, GUYS AND DOLLS;

This is meant for new as well as existing subscribers

Were finally at a point, that we need to re-address this activation system and our options..

First let us, apologize to all of you that have waited patiently and to those of you that didn't also.we fully, understand your frustrations and concerns.

When we first put all this together, we had tested it and found it to be not only workable, but easy for the purchaser to receive and use. Like all things that are made by humans, there will be built in bugs and problems..we just didn't now how many or how persistent and problematic they would turn out to be.

Add to that, "DAVE" began jumping into the middle of it by capturing the Cam I.D.'s that were kicked out, the uplink having problems, the servers going down, the last mile of fiber optic cable serving our servers in Panama being damaged..boy, is this "MURPHY'S LAW" at work or what ?

What we do have is still a great value for only a "BUCK A DAY" and it includes the TOTAL CHOICE PREMIERE DTV PACKAGE, you'll get all the benefits of having the best package. That's over 210 channels - with all of the great base programming and the most comprehensive movie channel lineup, plus a variety of sports.

Add to that:

HBO - 7 HBO channels.

STARZ Super Pak - 12 distinct movie channels, including 4 STARZ! channels, 2 Encore channels and 6 Encore theme channels.*

SHOWTIME UNLIMITED - 5 SHOWTIME channels, 2 channels of The Movie Channel, 1 FLIX channel and 1 Sundance Channel.

Cinemax - 3 Cinemax channels.

SPORTS Pack - Over 25 specialty and regional sports networks, including Fox Sports World, The Outdoor Channel, NBA TV, FUEL, CSTV: College Sports Television and TVG, The Interactive Horseracing Network. (Blackout restrictions apply)

Also add to that, these sports packages (when in season)

NFL SUNDAY TICKEY a $219.00 Value
NBA LEAGUE PASS a $169.00 Value
ESPN GAME PLAN a $119.00 Value

If you had to subscribe to all of these your cost would be staggering, and not the simple "BUCK A DAY" that we charge.

Now for some of the less than great news.

As for PPV's, we have struggled with keeping them up and for some reason we cannot at this time..this is a tough break, but it's not forever. We will keep working on them and when we get them, you'll get them.

Until then all we can say is what you get is what you get.some will get some and some will get none.and some more than others for some reason, we haven't figured that out yet, but we will.

We do have a PPV wiper that we will send to anyone that wants to try itas long as you are a paid Instaload Subscriber...it has worked for a few and not for others.if it works for you, great, if not, hey you tried. This is NOT to shared with your friends or non members of Sathouse, to do so will violate the TOS and your account and sub will be cancelled.

As soon as we resolve the PPV issues and can get them to stay on the cards, You'll be the first ones to get it. If someone modifies or gets the PPV wipe that we are passing out to work, then we'll share that with you.

Next, for the cards, DAVE has been modifying his system and is now collecting the CAM's that are kicked out of the system (not trace them, but collect them and tag them so their unusable)..thus making each card a single use card.

This has been one of the main reasons for our slowness in getting a lot of your cards redone or for our delay in hitting your second card.we were trying to solve this situation, and have come to the conclusion that this is the situation that we'll have to deal with for the time being and work on it as time passes.

This doesn't mean that the card will "NEVER" be good again, but until something changes it will not work in the near future.So if your card gets any error message "AFTER THE INITIAL ACTIVATION" attempt, you will need to get a new card and it should be a "VIRGIN" card to give you the best chances of getting some PPV's and for longevity. IF you choose to use a previously sub'd card, we cannot be sure what will occur, it may work, and it may not.but its your choice.

These seem to be large changes but keep in mind the overall picture here.we are still offering a huge package of DTV for a real small fee of only a "BUCK A DAY" and considering all that you get, that's a real bargain. We will of course continue to work on resolving all of this, but if it never gets resolved you are still getting a real value for that "BUCK A DAY"

We will be submitting only (10) cam's a day in order to keep a tight control on this, and we'll be giving you a date for activation as we do this.. The time from acceptance to turn on will be a max of 96 hours or sooner. You will be given a link to a page that is specific to, either NEW subs, or for REPLACEMENT cards. Once the form is filled out and submitted you will be given a time frame in which you will be activated, this will occur in 96 hours or less. Once you submit the form, any additional emails, will only slow the process down, so give us a chance to do our jobs.

We will only be offering this to "SATHOUSE" members until all have received the offer, and if the group of members that receive the offer in a given week, don't act upon the offer, it will be withdrawn and then offered to a waiting list of persons that have asked for the opportunity for activation.

If we find your card not acceptable in the system we will contact you and you can then locate a "VIRGIN" card to replace it with. "WE DON'T SELL CARDS" .WE have checked and these cards are available on Ebay from about $19 to around $40..

If you use a newer receiver and when you put the card in the receiver the card # and the receiver # comes up on the screen, we will need both those numbers in order to activate you. Yes this will work with TIVO. Older receivers are actually better for this, but the new ones will work too.

WE know this a bit of a change for some of you, but in the bigger picture its great to have DTV back again .
We don't mean to be rude, but at this time, we are the only site that has brought out something for the P4/P5/D1 cards, and even with its minor faults, and it's limitations at the present, its a bargain at only a "BUCK A DAY"

We will be contacting those subs whose cards have been hit and were rejected in the system, and of course those of you that have a card that has any of the error messages at all after the initial activation, will know that you'll need to acquire another card, preferably a "VIRGIN" card, otherwise we cannot be sure it will be accepted in the system..

When you do have the new card, be sure to use the appropriate form provided for that information, so we can get you into the que and get you activated. We will adjust start dates for all the subs that have problems, so you will not loose time you've paid for.

NOTE** THE ACTIVATION FORM IS NOT ACTIVE AT THIS MOMENT.TEMPORARILY, YOU WILL NEED TO SEND THE INFORMATION TO INSTALOAD@SATHOUSE.COM.PA DO NOT SEND ANY OTHER INFORMATION OR NOTES TO THIS ADDRESS, IF YOU DO, THE EMAIL WILL BE DELETED AND YOU WILL DELAY YOUR ACTIVATION. WE WILL JUMP ON THESE AS SOON AS THEY ARE RECEIVED..AND YOU WILL BE GIVEN A TIME FRAME OF ABOUT 72 HOURS OR LESS FOR ACTIVATION.

INFORMATION FOR NEW STARTS:
IN THE SUBJECT LINE OF YOUR EMAIL, PUT YOUR FORUM NAME AND THE WORD "NEW"

YOUR EMAIL ADDY
YOUR FORUM NAME
NEW OR VIRGIN CARD CAM I.D. #
RECEIVER I.D. # IF IT COMES UP ON SCREEN
MONEY ORDER I.D. #
AMOUNT OF MONEY ORDER

FOR REPLACEMENT CARDS:
IN THE SUBJECT LINE PUT YOUR FORUM NAME AND THE WORD "REPLACEMENT"

YOUR EMAIL ADDY
YOUR FORUM NAME
YOUR OLD CARD CAM I.D. #
THE REPLACEMENT "VIRGIN" CARD CAM I.D. #
RECEIVER NUMBER IF IT COMES UP ON THE SCREEN


 

Silver Member
Username: Jmill1948

Chester, Va Usa

Post Number: 341
Registered: Apr-04
Punjavi Da
WHY DID I SENT THEM MY MONEY sathouse is A BIG SCAM ....and they stole my $180 american
p..........hey dude i can feel for you if you speak the truth....if this company ripped you off let me see proof,............show me emails.cancels bills anything to prove you right....
sathouse if you have documentation let us know........we do not like thieves on this site.... jmill
 

SATELLITE GURU
Unregistered guest
WARNING PEOPLE. THE PEOPLE FROM SATHOUSE ARE LYING TO YOU. I'm not that Fag_Applebee, I'm definately not those pushy scammers from Sathouse, I'm just a guy who understands alot about the Satellite indestry. Sathouse has never ripped me off, and never will because I will not let that happen. What Sathouse is offering WILL GET YOU TV. Others have pulled this scam in the recent past. All they are doing is paying Dave for a real sub. They wait till about 6 to 8 people have paid and given their info and then put them all under the same made up address under the same account. Sathouse pays $90 to Dave (platnum package) for the month while 6 to 8 of you have paid Sathouse $180 for that same month (big profit). So yes your TV will get Dave. The scam part is after the first month (maybe two, depends on how long they want to collect more money for their scam) Sathouse calls Dave and cancells the account. So in the end you end up paying $180 for a month of Dave, two months if you're lucky. Sathouse is pulling the EXACT SAME SCAM THAT 3M OFFSHORE WAS PULLING BACK IN APRIL OF THIS YEAR. I WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED IF THE SCAMMERS FROM SATHOUSE WERE NONE OTHER THEN THE GUYS FROM 3MOFFSHORE. If you buy from Sathouse I PROMISE YOUR PROGRAMMING WILL GO TO A PLEASE CALL EXT 721 WITHIN LESS THEN 2 MONTHS AND THEY'LL NEVER ANSWER ANOTHER E-MAIL OF YOURS. The only reason Sathouse needs all your info card #, Reciever # is because they need that info to call Dave to order your Sub. If you're willing to watch Dave though a legal Sub, JUST DO IT YOURSELF WITH A NO 745 BOARD, OR EVEN WITHOUT ONE, ITS THE ONLY WAY YOU'LL NEVER GET SCAMMED
 

Pass the 7
Unregistered guest
Sat Guru...This is what I've been saying for weeks now, doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out....check out their site....3 scum bags waiting for their prey...sniper, just browsing, and big guy...check out their forums....lol
 

The Watcher
Unregistered guest

Yes....this fraud works by the "pyramid sysrem" ( ask about it if you dont know ) ....that is ....the many new ones pay for the first few ones, until the bubble bursts.......by then, all the money is gone.....and no one gets any DTV !


 

A very dissappointed member
Unregistered guest
What the hell happened to this site???????????????
I thought this was for DSS and FTA discussions. DAMN! This place went to the dogs without a doubt. I need good FTA information, not BS kiddie crap conversations and arguing about stuff that doesn't have a thing to do with DSS OR FTA. I can't believe that the moderators have let this place get to this point! There were maybe 3 or 4 posts on the whole mess here that were interesting and on the subjecct in any way. Something needs to be done. The kids can go create their own forums to post crap to each other and feud all they want to.
 

sabre tooth
Unregistered guest
I know this question has been asked and answered before but I can,t remember the answer please help

do you need to switch lnb's to get bev from a dave dish or just change the angles?

thanks
 

Silver Member
Username: Deaf

Post Number: 114
Registered: Aug-04
Sabre the dave dish will work fine for bev, just change the coordinates...
 

Dhammersmith
Unregistered guest
I am from Winnipeg, and I have already got wind of two people selling the same subscription set up that sathouse has. It is $100 for 3 months and that gets you $150 in PPV. So it pays for itself just there. So it is out, it does work, and you should not have to go to any web site to find it. If you live in a reasonably large City, someone will have it there. Talk to people and you will find it.
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