P3 death / P4 birth
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JINUN Unregistered guest | Who the hell is Dave???? |
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bootylicious Unregistered guest | isn't dave the guy from wendys? |
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bootylicious Unregistered guest | hey you guys, can u help me out here. which card should i get??? |
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Bronze Member Username: BluezPost Number: 65 Registered: Dec-03 | for the newbies and jss direct tv = Dave bell expressvu= Bev dishnetwork = Charlie it just what we refere to them as |
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guest Unregistered guest | i havent seen it myself, but i have heard the p4 has been cracked, in the ky area. i have my fingers crossed |
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Anonymous | I am in the louisville ky area and there is no fix on P-4 all old cards are dead pre p-4 I wonder is there a device sort of like the boot strap where you could feed into your pc with the card and control the clock speed with the cpu and out of the pc to the reciever with like fire wire? whould this carry the speed load required for the cpu to give control to a software to snip information? Hell some one talk to the guys that send all the pop ups to my pc ;) Sure miss the free tv help guys |
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Googler Unregistered guest | Ya know, if there was a way to kill just the glitch/PLL circuitry on the P4 ASIC, you could get in and look around. (Kinda like with a microscope, a tiny needle and a burst of voltage). Does anyone know what encryption is used on this thing (DES, DDES, 3DES, RSA, ECC) and what keylengths? The answer is in the stream - not on the card |
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crystarslair Unregistered guest | [link removed] im running 200 channels from these guys |
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Missing the HU Unregistered guest | What type of hardware do we need for this hack?? Maybe you want to elaborate more on the hack. Do you get free ppv with your hack?? What software are you using?? |
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New member Username: TrapsPost Number: 1 Registered: May-04 | I have over 300 p4 cards in stock and am selling them at a low price, $650 for 10 and less for bigger lots. I am also selling them on ebay right now for more. I pay for overnight shipping to the lower 48 states USA only. Contact me, Rick. |
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Bronze Member Username: BluezPost Number: 66 Registered: Dec-03 | hu is back with limited channels in the 500's |
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Anonymous | will pay 50,000 for p4 hack by 5/14/04 |
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Anonymous | you're running 200 channels on a p4 with no bootstrap, bullshit. |
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why do ppl scam? Unregistered guest | i see crystarslair is spamming a scammer here too... this site ripped off images from a respected site then ripped off a members avatar then linked to the site he stole from then hosted his site in the USA on a FREESERVER then would not offer proof of his claims to anybody... etc etc... scam or sting... take yer pick... |
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joe718 Unregistered guest | Your right that as is a scam he has the site on geocities which is a freeserver on provided by yahoo. Last time I checked it was illegal to even sale direct tv hacks in the u.s. thats why legitamite sites are from Canada or through email |
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skureg Unregistered guest | Has anybody given any thought to XP Home..... Does Bill Gates have anything to do with the new cards???? Do the P4 & P5 cards use an XP Home environment ????? Just a question from a very stupid person |
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skureg Unregistered guest | Again I did it............. XP Media Center edition 2004 |
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Anonymous | any lawers out there given thought to federal law stating if it is broadcsated thru the air and penetates your home and you build something to decode like a scanner you can rieceve it cable is hard wire so cant mess with box and some sats are a lease deal so they own equip so you cant modify so if i own equipment and it penetrates my home i can rieceve it other whys it is trespassing in my home and dave and all the others owe me rent we can thank clinton for passing the law to get rid of our rabbit ears and make us all pay for commericals why we watch our shows |
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jrewfhijsafhijsvhg Unregistered guest | Not if the signal is encrypted. It is illegal to decrypt any encrypted satellite broadcast. |
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mfgfbeuf Unregistered guest | Lots of mis-information on this site  For facts and truth check this place out.. |
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pissed of in so cal Unregistered guest | if it enters my home with out my consent it is ielagal entry encrypted our not federal rule no bigbrother herewhen you buy a phone cordless read the fine print it may tarnsmit that others may get and must be able to riecev signals that may cause interference its a complied consent if i use there encyption thats 1 storie but if i use my own technology its mine if its in my home its mine i can do as i wish with what ever is in i repeat in my home if you get a package in the mail address to you that you did not order it is yours for free they cant bill you after the fact read the fine print learn the laws if there is something in my home that some else put there and i dont want it it has to go the only thing you cant control is emegency transmissionsget a scanner and listen to high speed transfer of data from computers cell phones police calls you dont see law suits for beartcat scanners if dave or any one else is beaming somthing at me and i dont want it dave is responcible for protecting me from it we all thought asbestos could not harm you lead paint now dave his signal could be the cause of my cluster headaches and millions of migraine suffers around the world didnt see a lot of migraine pills on the market till sattelites went up my house is mine and i will defend it former military and trained to defend and attack if needed if i cant play with toys in my own home than they can take there signals out of my house i was here before dave put out the signals and i did not get the chance to vote or chose to have random signals that no body tested to see it it could harm anything bottom line in my home its mine if i sign a contract or vote for somthing then its the law and ill abide by it i didnt ask for dave and the others so they can kiss my southern end and stop invading my home |
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Anonymous | if it enters my home with out my consent it is ielagal entry THIS GUY'S FUNNY |
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mr.? Unregistered guest | any luck on the p4 yet? |
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Mort Unregistered guest | Without an insider to open the door, knocking just ain't going to cut it.............. |
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anyonewhocares Unregistered guest | I am just curious how do Dave know we steal his signal? |
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I think I care... Unregistered guest | DAVE has "vehicles" around to check who is receiving the signals, at least in the US. As long as you have the minimum DTV package they can't come in for you. They can only check if the signal is entering, not which channels you are receiving. |
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Unregistered guest | I can't believe that... |
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temp1 Unregistered guest | That is total crap. You are getting cable and dtv confused. |
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Anonymous | They are getting close to finding a fix for the P4. A reputable web site that I have used for over a year for my HU Cards is now just launching a new loader. No Price or info... but why would they be showing a picture of the new Omega III??? This means most likely that new hardware will be required. Hence why the delay for the fix. They need to get the hardware out into the hands of those who want it. With out the hardware the fix is useless and it why would tip their your hand to DAVE? Dave is getting over confident again... they are starting to include the cards in the boxes again. Time will only tell... Has anyone heard about version diffenrences between P5 Cards yet? I have heard of possible security updates on a newer run of the P5 cards. Something to do with the serial numbers on the cards. |
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miko99 Unregistered guest | JSS: Send me a chip for free, and i will get you over 100 customers from up here in my town alone. Email me Miko0909@hotmail.com |
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Anonymous | Your right the p4 hack is close ;) but any sites you know wont have it. You'll see it when its ready. |
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Anonymous | Mid June is what I have been told today. That is only a few weeks away. What I am told new hardware (Programers) are needed. Get them while they are still on the cheap side! |
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Anonymous | it will release sooner than mid june as my source says.... he knows more about the p4 than anyone else... guarunteed |
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cardp4 Unregistered guest | if you want to subbed here is a speaical offer code (that dtv gave me )you will not have to pay anything up front just actvatie your receivers you can actvatie up to 5 tvs i know because i just signed up and got a dtv tivo with a 4 room setup for $99 just call dtv at 1 800 341 4388 tell the op you are calling about directv friends referral program special offer code: jim martin 28871814 |
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JSS Unregistered guest | Here we go! We are finally ready to unlease our new technology! Please order from The cost is $79usd or $179usd installed plus shipping and handling. Thank you. JetSetSattelite. c/o J. Peters |
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Anonymous | LMFAO that site doesnt even work and what technology? The P4 HAck? LMFAO You don't have it yet ;) When it is ready and is released you all will have VIDEO confirmation of it working. |
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BLAH BLAH Unregistered guest | JSS=A$$BAG ive been in here for a few weeks now reading and reading other forums, this guy is a freeeak!! Doesnt even know the domain name for his "technology" If this were even true i wouldnt trust someone elses shaddy hardware!! Stay tuned to happinings on REPUTABLE websites.. Good day to you all and keep pluggin ;) |
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New member Username: Chaotic1Post Number: 1 Registered: May-04 | Seems to me that the signal is being received regardless of the access card, it's just a matter of the receiver having the right key to allow the decryption of the signal. All this information is processed within the receiver as there is no way for the unit to transmit. I may be stating the obvious, but if everything is done internally it seems there would have to be a solution withing the programming on the receiver to either bypass the code, trick it into accepting any code, or simply bypass the verification process all together with a few jumpers. I have about four extra receivers that I can play around with and three or four disposable cards. If anybody has any ideas for accomplishing the above, e-mail me or post. (e-mail's better) white_trash6969@hotmail.com Also, anybody know where to get schematics for the receivers? That would probably help. |
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InquiringMindzWannaKnow Unregistered guest | NoSir - the answer is not in the receiver - readup on PKI - Public Key Encryption, private keys, public keys, etc. In short, they're sending down a video stream encrypted with a key (seed) that rolls over every several seconds or so. The card does the rest of the work (112 bit-triple DES) and passes the video off to the receiver. You can trick it into accepting a specific code, but there's a lot of computing to get that code (we won't live that long in todays computing power). That suckerz pretty tight (Infineon ECO2000 processor SLE66), but they're giving it a working over. Are you interested in the SPECS? You'll $hit your pants when you see them. |
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Anonymous | sorry to disapoint you all, but i worked for dtv for 5 years now and there is no fvckin skeleton key code it is done with preprogramed cards. thats the only way to test it..(recievers) P.S. crack the p4 and hurry |
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Anonymous | Does anyone know how to program a Fortec reveiver, or where to find out info on how to program one? |
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oompah Unregistered guest | June 15th would be NICE - I'm not bettin the farm on it tho. It's a new card so all the advantages are in their court. ECM's - black Friday - Fuse Byte - here we go... |
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Anonymous | if anyone can find a way to hook up a receiver to a computer with xp , they will be on the way to getting all the answer |
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Anonymous | You are forgetting that recording the communication between the card and the IRD is useless. The packets sent back and forth between the IRD and the CARD are digitally signed and it changes every so often so that is useless. Just wait patiently the hack will be out soon I promise you... With my sources where they are feeding the info that I need it will be out sooner than you think. |
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Blah Blah Unregistered guest | This may be an utterly useless question but is it possible to filter the code in such a way that when it is received it can be changed in anyway via pc program or something of that nature so that the card can read it at all times ( like a pre programmed code? ) kinda hard typing this out i prefer drawings ;) ) |
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Anonymous | no because you are forgetting something also. not only is there security on the card but there is also some in the stream.... Inside the packets of the stream is a small security feature that im not going to mention but when altered will cause the card to ECM itself. Any tampering with the stream would screw your card if you could even think about emulating the stream. |
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New p4 solution? Unregistered guest | so. nothin yet on the p4? I hope we get the fix within 6 mos or so. |
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New member Username: FugawaBayou Self, LA. USA Post Number: 1 Registered: Jun-04 | P4 card for sale $ 140.00 U.S. Postal money order I pay postage. If unterested email or post your address |
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New member Username: FugawaBayou Self, LA. USA Post Number: 2 Registered: Jun-04 | Anonymonus if anyone can find a way to hook up a receiver to a computer with xp , they will be on the way to getting all the answer You can hook up a computer to a receiver now, it's called EMULATION |
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Anonymous | "Anonymonus if anyone can find a way to hook up a receiver to a computer with xp , they will be on the way to getting all the answer You can hook up a computer to a receiver now, it's called EMULATION" You are a moron... You cant see the communication between the card and the IRD!!!! even if you could it would be useless. The packets the card and the IRD send back and forth are digitally signed and the digital signature changes for each packet with an Algorythm. Without one of the super computers like they use either your not going to crack the algo's so just forget it. Just be patient. I have many of the answers and the p4 hack will be released as soon as possible so be patient. |
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guest Unregistered guest | N/A ............ P4, $140.00......... selling for around $40.00 on ebay,maybe cheaper ......what gives................................??? does this include vasoline??? |
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New member Username: FugawaBayou Self, LA. USA Post Number: 3 Registered: Jun-04 | Guest, No it does not include Vasoline. Buy off E Bay and they give you the vasoline. |
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Keeper Unregistered guest | After my hu cards went down i called DTV to reativate my system, They sent me new access cards in the mail. Five days later i had them upgrade my system so i could get local channels, They sent out a kid to do the install and he left all the old equipment with the new cards they just sent me. I have 5 new P4 cards. |
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BLAH BLAH Unregistered guest | i thought they stopped issueing p4's last year, they went to D1's didnt they? SO when did you get these p4?? |
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wishfull- n- buffalo Unregistered guest | i signed up to dave after the big crash and they had sent me old cards in the mail(p4) iasked about using them and they said after 30 days they would be useless if not activated and they would have to send out new cards! will this play out in the hack at all? |
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Racer X Unregistered guest | I don't know who told you that but they're wrong. Dave can activate the card whenever he chooses, hopefully we'll be doing the same in a bit. |
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WISHFULL-N-BUFFALO Unregistered guest | A DAVE REP TOLD ME THAT! THEN THEY WENT TO THE TROUBLE TO SEND ME 2 MORE NEW CARDS TO ACTIVATE BECAUSE THE OTHER 2 HAD EXPIRED. THAT WAS THE 2ND DIFFERANT REP TO SAY THIS IN TWO DAYS! |
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Racer X Unregistered guest | For starters, Dave's reps don't know sh|t. If they don't tell you what you want to hear phone back till one does. P4 cards don't expire, Dave can do just about anything he wants to the card in the IRD. Not trying to start an argument, but that is the plain and simple truth. |
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whats taking so long Unregistered guest | mid June & still nothing? I hear when HU came out it took 3 months to break. I think this is going to take longer |
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Waiting In Canada Unregistered guest | The Word on the street is end of June. They must have hit a road block. Lets hope we have something soon! I would love just to be able to clone cards. Worry about PPV later! |
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Bronze Member Username: PawnmasterCanada Post Number: 66 Registered: Jun-04 | P4 has already been here for 2 years, nothing is going to happen with it, nor the P5 and the soon to be released P6 cards, which deactivate the minute it is removed from the reciever. Time to switch to Dish or Bell! If you doubt that this is true, read my post on P4 2 years old today. |
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BLAH BLAH Unregistered guest | Magicusertoo, your profile says you registered on the 8 of this month , what name did you go under b4 so we can read this 2 year old post, and i do believe that the p4 came out in 03 did it not?? This p6 talk is a bunch of poo where is there a place to see these infamous p6 AKA gold card??? And btw Everything in this world is hackable just some things you wouldnt want to hack IE banks and high level gov. |
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Anonymous | Tell that story to the people using sky over in europe. Their cards have been out forever and not one person has came up with ANYTHING that is capable of hacking it. And whats this about a P5 and P6. There is no P5 or P6. The card you call a P5 is a D1 im tired of hearing everyone call it a P5. The period cards were made by NDS the D1 card was made by directv hence the name D1. It is very simular to the P4 and still has much of the code NDS made for the P4 but was made and programmed by DirecTV. As for the hack for the P4. It will be out soon. Are there any dealers on here who would like to have a conversation with me regarding this issue? Please drop me a line with your email address or ill drop you a line back where you can reach me on the internet and we will talk some business. |
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Bronze Member Username: PawnmasterCanada Post Number: 75 Registered: Jun-04 | How do you drop an Anonymous, uregisterd guest a line? |
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Racer X Unregistered guest | "And whats this about a P5 and P6. There is no P5 or P6. The card you call a P5 is a D1 im tired of hearing everyone call it a P5. The period cards were made by NDS the D1 card was made by directv hence the name D1. It is very simular to the P4 and still has much of the code NDS made for the P4 but was made and programmed by DirecTV" First off it is the period 5 card meaning the 5th card in succession.The D1 is just a nickname for it like p3/hu/football Secondly The cards are so simmillar (4/5) that nds sued dtv for c.r. infringement. Dave found a security whole (wish we could) and had problems with hd compatability, hense the new card. It doesn't matter now anyway since nds and dave have a puppet contract for 5 years sense they are both owned by murdick. |
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Anonymous | Ok Racer X Its clear to me now you are a moron. I was thinking you were pretty knowledgable from your posts on other sites but know your stupid is showing. The D1 is not a nickname for the HU. D1 is the card that came out after the P4 card. The D1 and the P4 are very much the same except the D1 has more security features than the P4. The D1 was developed not just for the reason of the holes but because DTV and NDS were in lawsuits because NDS would not give DTV the keys to the card. Instead the keys were programmed into the programming software that DTV was given. So instead DTV took NDS's code and improved upon it blocking a known hole and the birth of the D1 came. Now as for the P6. It is not in existance yet but just like in the past there will be more card swaps that is obvious but lets not worry about the next card just yet lets crack the P4 first. |
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Racer X Unregistered guest | What the Fuc|< are you talking about man? I said the d1 is another name for the p5 like p3 was called hu/football. The D1 is the period 5 card end of story. Where'd you find the rest of that info? |
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Racer X Unregistered guest | Ya by the way Calling me a moron without Leaving your nick. Your a real tough guy aren't ya? |
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Anonymous | I always post on this site as anonymous. DTV watches this site. And ok so I misread your post. Excuse me. Anyway The rest of the info im not giving out where I got it from. Don't want to get in any trouble. Like I said they monitor this site. |
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Racer X Unregistered guest | They Monitor all of them. Sorry for flying off the handle, just don't like being called names. That's cool if you don't want to give out the sources. I was just curious. |
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New member Username: Dignon1Post Number: 1 Registered: Jun-04 | Does anyone know the difference between the BLACKBIRD SILVERBIRD SILVER BULLET SATELLITE RECEIVER and the Silver Bullet Enforcer Free To Air TV Receiver? They both look like they have the same specs and functionality. |
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Bronze Member Username: FreekobePost Number: 13 Registered: May-04 | ones black and ones silver |
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BLAH BLAH Unregistered guest | i recently got an iso sc reader and i want to know if i can insert a d1 into it withour writting to it without screwing it up, im relatively new to testing but willing to learn, is there a good site for learning and sharing knowledge? Other than the same ol wait till end of may...wait till june "15" wait wait wait crap. Might as well try for myself this farging dave machine and card aint doing me any good collecting dust , thanks yall!!! |
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New member Username: OzzmanPost Number: 1 Registered: Jun-04 | HU Hacked. good one lol |
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New member Username: OzzmanPost Number: 2 Registered: Jun-04 | HU Hacked. good one lol |
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ANONYMOUS111 Unregistered guest | WOW....no posts in 10 days P4 goin nowhere fast!! |
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lonewolf Unregistered guest | hey anonymous111 there hasnt been a posting here for a while, it wouldnt surprise me if ADMIN just got fed up with all the idiots posting crap here.so they put a halt on all postings.but they r hard at work trying to crack this deal,so hang tight they will all be back. |
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Yoshi Unregistered guest | I'm one of the people, like all of us, that was using the HU card for so very long. I loved it. I had everything setup and went my card went 744/745, I always had a new 3m to load. I was very dissappointed, as we all were, when DAVE decided it was time for us to stop doing that... I have been reading about this issue with the p4/p5 for a long time... Patiently waiting for the new fix to come out and for any word on the crack of the new card. I have a trusted site that I always used for all my HU needs, and now they are only offering DISHNET 3m's. They still have no word on anything for DTV. I hope that they will soon, or someone will, because I miss my channels. I miss waiting to see what will be out next on Pay-Per-View, and taping all my favorite movies from the 500's. Ok... Everyone together now. We must pray... :::God, if you are out there. Please hear our cries of anguish and sorrow. We are tired of watching antenna TV and adjusting it for every channel. We are tired of looking at our Hughes receivers with no light on. We are tired of looking at these football cards that have now become a decoration. If you can hear us, PLEASE CRACK THE P4!!! Amen...::: |
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Anonymous | OK, why can't you use a "no 745 board" load an active "subbed" camid (p4/5)on it with Win 5.0, like you do for the P3 cam and options, and use any p4 card? The receiver would read the camid off the board, send the activation to the p4 and you would be up and running. Dave can hack the P4/5 for us and we don't need to pay for Fixes or loader updates. Anyone given this a try?? If I had a valid P4 camID I would give it a try. This seems to be the method some merchants are selling. |
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TY Unregistered guest | t-bone There are many that claim to be blackbirds. A lot of FTA receivers can be flashed to get Charlie and Bev. A real blackbird is black, comes in an ST-1000 box, costs more but has better support. Silverbirds, and the rest are either Fortec, Coship or Pansat. Some work fine now, some are allready obsolite. Beware when you purchase. If you purchase it "stock" (no spoecial programming) it is legal, if you get one that is programed it is illegal. Remember the dreaded DTV letter, just wait until these dealers get busted. Only the programed ones are illegal, the rest are legal. You can program them yourself it you want to cross the line. Most even send a programming cable with the receiver and the software is all over the net for free. Read many fourms befor you buy. |
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CURIOUS Unregistered guest | THIS IS THE SITE THAT IS RUNNING THE ADD SAYING THEY HAVE THE P4 FIX. IM STILL UNSURE IF IT LEGIT OR B.S. YOUR THOUGHTS. |
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Silver Member Username: TvlonelyPost Number: 124 Registered: Jun-04 | Curious - I can assure you it is a rip off. |
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New member Username: OzzmanPost Number: 3 Registered: Jun-04 | Is it true that they have cracked the P4's and P5's?? Or is it a bunch of BS? |
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Blah Blah Unregistered guest | Ive heard rumors floating around here that people have one working, although i havent seen it personally, but my co-worker is talking to someone this weekend to see if its true and if it is im laughing. Even if it were true i would assume that a public hack would take some time due to the absolute morons who buy these tivos ect, and right aways connect to phone line because thats the thing to do just because they have that option. NEver let anything (info) leave your DAVE BOX. |
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New member Username: TuriPost Number: 1 Registered: Aug-04 | Really really new to the whole direct TV thing, was curious what kind of reader/writer i would need in order to dump data off my P4 card. Linux or windows compatible i run both. |
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adam7777 Unregistered guest | whatever happened to easyloader.net? i used to use it and the website doesnt exist anymore??? |
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Finish 24 Unregistered guest | BRIEF INFO ABOUT THE PRODUCT: If you have a Direct TV satellite dish, then you are able to receive free extra channels with your service. I have P4 and P5 cards available for $150 each. The cards are programmed so that you are able to receive over 500 extra channels FOR FREE, including 96 ppv, 6 adult, HBO, Showtime, Cinemax, NFL ticket and your local stations and music channels. THE PRICES ARE $150 EACH INCLUDING SHIPPING. TO ORDER E-MAIL ME AT finish24@aol.com |
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Silver Member Username: Jmill1948Chester, Va Usa Post Number: 165 Registered: Apr-04 | finish24 is a crook will take tour money then block your email do not respond to the piece of scum........................i have proof. |
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disappointed Unregistered guest | I guess that's it. It ain't gonna get hacked. Sigh. I guess I'll take down my DTV house ornament. |
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lesIie jones Unregistered guest | dont be such a shmuck. I can sell you an all-open P5 for $100 bucks. |
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disappointed Unregistered guest | leslie, how do I get in contact with you? |
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lesIie jones Unregistered guest | Pleae contact me at finish24@aol.com and you'll soon have your DTV. |
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caveat emptor Unregistered guest | jesus wept... |
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a freind Unregistered guest | dont do it DISAPOINTED hes a theif he will take your money and wont send you any thing. |
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james miIIard Unregistered guest | thats not true. I personally endorse Mr. finish24@aol.com and I am one uf his many satisfied customers- |
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Silver Member Username: Jmill1948Chester, Va Usa Post Number: 192 Registered: Apr-04 | i did not write the above.i do not endorse crooks and i am an unsatisfied customer...........finish24 is on my chit list...........peace.jmill |
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mr. Bob Unregistered guest | yup and if you take note that the first post by james is unregistered and teh second one is registered, it was probably the crook himself finish that impostered james. do not trust or buy from finish ever she/he is a crook. also be ware of peopel posting that shoudl be registered but are not as it seems to be happenning alot in here now |
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mr. Bob Unregistered guest | yup and if you take note that the first post by james is unregistered and teh second one is registered, it was probably the crook himself finish that impostered james. do not trust or buy from finish ever she/he is a crook. also be ware of peopel posting that shoudl be registered but are not as it seems to be happenning alot in here now |
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Ionewolf Unregistered guest | Hey Mr.Bob how can anybody trust you if you're also an unregistrated poster. Huh? |
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original lonewolf Unregistered guest | mr.bob well it looks like this imposter is really hard at work using my logon name i know exactly what he is up to, if u read some of the old threads from all the individuals that are knowledgeable at dss testing u will see they have all left. as will i.... all i have done here is pass along some of the knowledge that i have learned to help out those without the knowledge but i have had enough... so good luck all of you and farewell..............i am very dissapointed and saddened by this occurance..good-bye to all. |
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mr. Bob Unregistered guest | Go away you dirty scoundrel who needs you anyway you arrogant little piece of chit ! |
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real mr. bob Unregistered guest | imposter... i am not asking anyone to trust me here, i ask them to trust me at the nfl site where peopel like your are banished, i also recomend everyone intreested to go there and check it out if you are getting sick of poepel like this, who have way too much time on their hands. you are a pathetic loser! |
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mr. Bob Unregistered guest | THAT SITE IS A SHITDUMP THE ONLY REAL BESTEST SITE WE ALL KNOW IS . |
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real mr. bob Unregistered guest | dont you think that it looks a little obvious and stupid that you are pretending to be someone your are not and advertising for dsscentral? obviously you are one of their goons, you woudl look alot better by just comming on here and in a professional polite way inform peopel about dss central, the way you are doing it you are just turning people off of that site and making them and you look stupid |
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Anonymous | the game is over! there is no hack for p4, and there won't be till history repeats itself! dave has fired the insiders that brought to us the good directtv ... it was a great ride! |
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BLAH BLAH Unregistered guest | Ahh Eat it.... The game is never over until dave is no longer in existence!! so take your negative attitude and lack of knowledge and p1ss off!! your bringin me down. |
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BLAH BLAH Unregistered guest | Ahh Eat it.... The game is never over until dave is no longer in existence!! so take your negative attitude and lack of knowledge and p1ss off!! your bringin me down. |
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lonewolf Unregistered guest | THE REAL MR BOB IS A CHILD M0LESTER AND WEARS A TH0NG. . |
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Anonymous | LOL it looks like some one is haveing flash backs |
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aa_bb_228 Unregistered guest | hey...s h i t's over the place.. for useful info...it would be dsscentral.net |
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Anonymous | THAT SITE IS A SHITDUMP THE ONLY REAL BESTEST SITE WE ALL KNOW IS |
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PW-voice Unregistered guest | maybe not the "bestest" but just the best... |
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New member Username: Granferg30Florida, Florida Usa Post Number: 1 Registered: Sep-04 | whats the best direct tv receiver out there u think i should get, and i know people who can activate the p4/p5 card , but they cant programme it , only activate. |
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neutral observer Unregistered guest | the RCA is the "top of the line" ird ....best thing you can do right now is activate and wait 1 month for the coming hack. |
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Curious Unregistered guest | Dear Secure3m users, We are proud to announce that we have run into a group of coders that have a working p4/d1 software. The software is a full 3M for both p4 and d1 cards. We cannot get into details untill the software is 100% finished but are glad for the progress that they have made. Since the release date is set for the end of the month we decided to take pre orders to help pay for such an expensive item. After being leading software suppliers for the p3 software we have held on durring these tough times and hope that the industry can be reborn with the release of the p4/d1 software. Those of you that do not belive us or think this is just another scam then please do us a favor and DONT ORDER. If we were planing on scamming we would not be accepting credit cards. Right now the set price for pre orders (untill sept 10th ) is 189.95. Then it will jump to 239.95. All people that order before th 10th will get INSTANT access to our fourm wtich means they get *Free* dishnet support. untill such time that the p4/d1 software is finished. Thanks to all for being loyal members. What do you all think about this? Is it true!! |
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applebee Unregistered guest | Its spam and scam that we've all received!...all reputable sites have been warning ALL their members of this spam and scam. They're selling something they don't even have yet,by their own admission (not 100% completed)...and the "we wouldn't be selling and accepting credit cards" if we were scammers",why NOT!...credit card is just as good as cash,unless you want to admit you tried to purchase illegal scripts,contact the CC company,write letter of dispute within 30 days and go thru all that hassle.. |
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New member Username: Granferg30Florida, Florida Usa Post Number: 2 Registered: Sep-04 | what is the difference between the p4 and p5 card for dtv , does it makes a difference which one u have and can they both work with any dtv receiver, also does the lnb have any thing to do with the signal strength u receive |
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applebee Unregistered guest | The alignment of your LNB is critical and DETERMINES your signal strength.Yes both P4 and D1 aka P5 work with DTV,and 99.9% of DTV receivers. |
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applebee Unregistered guest | BEWARE OF UNSCRUPULOUS SCOUNDRELS WHO ANNOUNCE AN UPCOMING P4 HACK... 1.-If there was a hack, a P4-ZKT would be posted. if the ROM were already dumped, this would be known. 2. There is no way to recoup the development costs -- the lawsuits have made buying risky, and the voracious free-tv'ers will steal the technology rather than pay for the equipment and time reverse engineering the product. 3. Dtv has learned from the past -- the F didn't have the ASIC -- fixed in the H. The H had software bugs which allowed access -- fixed with the development process and code reviews for the Hu. The Hu was vulnerable to power/clock glitches -- fixed in the P4 generation. Remember, for there to be a viable hack, it has to be packagable -- which if it requires Focused Ion Beam editting to enable glitching, won't be useable by very many testers. Finally, the appeal to time. The Hu was already compromised by the time the H stream was dying. People want to hear that it is hacked, so they believe, but historically, the previous card had always been hacked before the death of the current generation. Dealers can't make money if they don't sell what they have, if they have it. You also have to consider any group that has a hack and is holding it back "for the right moment" risks getting beat to the punch by another group. If it were stable and marketable, it would be out there right now, while the demand is ripe and high. Its nice to say that what man has made, man can break, but breaking and hacking are two totally different things. Think not? Go ask all the peeps who waited forever for a VCII+ hack. Any day now turned into years and still nothing. Primestar was the same way and also made by GI and never ever hacked. It did have a smart card slot which was never used, because it was never needed, because the hardware inside was never compromised. Guess who bought out primestar and that technology? Yep DTV. The H card was hacked well before the F was dead and the Hu hack was public even before the H was dead. Now you have a nearly dead Hu and not a single viable dealer even offering ANY sort of hack for the P4/P5/D1. Would a good businessman/businesswoman wait till everyone has jumped ship and bought a FTA or ran to charlie, then release a hack? I think not. If it were out there and stable folks, it would be available right now, while the iron is hot and panicked peeps are willing to pay the cheeks off their a$$ to get it. Even if it were, an "unglitchable" card will be an icescraper everytime it gets looped, because if you can't glitch into the loop, how ya gonna unloop it? Don't hold your breath folks, because the road ahead is going to get rocky and now that the heat is on charlie, he is going to jump right in and take care of some business too. Everyone keeps saying the dealers have to make their money first, but when no dealer is selling, they are not making any money, because they simply don't have anything to sell at this point. All those promises that it was out there but "not needed at this time" were bullshit. "It would only be released when somebody could make some money off of it." Uh, from reading the forums I see quite a few desperate people out there who can't watch TV right now. The "market" seems pretty damn ripe to me. 2. Not one SHRED of evidence has surfaced that anybody has gotten into a P4. I see a lot of posts that say it's "too unstable" for public release. Since when do hackers care whether something is stable enough for the public...getting all ethical now? Again, I call BULLSHlT. Or maybe they're talking about it being too unstable to SELL. You don't have to prove it's been compromised by posting a working fix. A simple P4/D1 range CAMID and matching ZKT that can be verified is all that is needed to prove it has been compromised. Posted via proxy or whatever other means to protect the poster from the authorities. How about an EEPROM dump? Partial disassembly (reverse engineer) of that dump? We haven't seen it because it's not there. The card has been out for two years and not one single byte of verifiable data has appeared to substantiate that a hacker has seen it's secrets. What do you think? Just by pure chance we should have already seen something...in two years? 3. ...One man can make it, another man can break it. I'm sick of seeing that one. While it's true that nothing can be 100% secure...all DTV has to do is keep you out long enough to make it financially feasible to keep issuing new cards. As long as it takes a few years (3-5) to break into the current card, they're ahead of the game and already issuing new cards. At that point it's OVER. Where's the financial gain in that (for the hackers)? The only people left trying to get in are the few *true* hackers who are doing it because they can't resist a challenge. Then, once all the forums and DSS sites whither up and die, the number of people actively probing the inner workings of the cards goes down drastically. Something else goes down with the number of people and it's the most important of all: KNOWLEDGE. Fewer people with less knowledge means the "attack front" is reduced and with it the threat and probability of compromises of current and future cards. Think about it, if it takes another year for a P4 hack to surface, 90% of all the D*T specific DSS sites will be long gone. Their goal of crushing the piracy market will have succeeded. 4. Anybody who's looked at those leaked specifications will see that the P4/D1 is a kick a$$ card. Now assuming that those documents are not faked (they looked pretty damn offical to me) some things that stand out are: A. The inability to change CAMID's (they're hard coded - not in EEPROM). That one right there kills a LOT of ability. It's surprising they didn't inlcude that ability (or lack thereof) in earlier cards. Sure as hell makes it harder to hack when you can't clone cards. Of course the no ZKT mod would help here, but I would imagine that they will come up with a way of requiring your private key or group keys to be valid for the given CAMID in order to take essential updates. Meaning if you spoof a CAMID using some no ZKT method, there still exists the possibility of still requiring the ID to match other important corresponding data on the card in order for it to function properly. B. A shut down mechanism. The card processor is reportedly to be based on a European smart money card that is loaded with cash and as you buy things, it deducts from the balance on the card. Once the card reaches zero, it's designed to self destruct so that as they are thrown into the trash they aren't scooped up by hackers trying to reload money on them. They are destroyed via code in ROM at the end of their lives. If D*V chose to implement that into the P4/D1 - you're f*cked! Instead of getting looped - your card gets irreversibly KILLED. Quite nasty and quite effective. If I were designing a card I would surely include such a function. C. The specs call for the ability of the card to handle a tier expiration date rollover that occurs some 10+ years from now. Seems they are quite confident that the card will remain unhacked for that amount of time. Why make that specification? 5. Be aware that the people who are designing these cards are not stupid. Yes, they may have overlooked many weaknesses in their designs in the past, but they are learning from them. All the newer cards are implementing more and more encryption capabilities. In case you don't know, public key cryptosystems cannot be broken. Unless someone comes up with a way of efficiently factoring large primes (the basis for PKE), it will remain unbroken. With the utilization of more and more of this technology into smart cards, hacking them starts becoming insurmountable. This new card has TONS of cryptographic functions. And these are ones that go waaaaaay beyond a simple XOR key! Think about the ZKT. It has never been possible to generate your own CAMID/ZKT pair on any of the cards. This just proves it's effectiveness (it's using properties of PKE digital signing). Now imagine using that CAMID/ZKT idea for zeroing out PPV purchases. Instead of using a simple 0, to indicate the obvious zero balance, think if they used the ZKT idea (or digitally signed the PPV's). If the PPV zero balance was digitally signed, it then becomes a special, non-recreateable, non-zero number. How would you get around that? What about tiers? What if the tiers were digitally signed for each card? The possibilites numb the mind! The important part? If implemented, there are no workarounds for them until PKE is broken! So better start looking for any option of a legit DTV service...BEFORE PRICES START GOING UP! |
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Blah Blah Unregistered guest | ahh nutz, everyone is a friggin crap in the bucket, Way to sugar coat it. But hey i bought the crap so selling it on e-bay for 50 bucks aint gonna do me any good, ill wait the 10 years. |
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Anonymous | you can still use the p3 all you have to do is get a special card and slip the card under the p3 and their ya go free tv!! |
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Anonymous | i have been progaming cards for years need a program called joker lol made by me and a bootstrap and a non us cite to go to and saty out of canada they are cracking down with several stings brought down almost all of ga and florida so stay safe and good luck latter and learn encription it helps |
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applebee Unregistered guest | and U learn how to write... SUCKER !! |
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applebee Unregistered guest | Above post is an imposter.. |
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applebee Unregistered guest | Above 2 posts are imposters |
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applebee Unregistered guest | Above 3 posts are imposters. STOP fu_king using my username mother f_ckers. can't get your own username. you can use this. asshole1 asshole2 asshole3 |
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applebee Unregistered guest | ALL OF THE ABOVE ARE FUCKlNG IMPOSTERS PEEPZ WHO KNOW ME CAN TELL THE FUCKlN DIF |
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Punjabi Da Unregistered guest | Why every people wants to be an applebee ? |
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apple bees prejudice Unregistered guest | Apple Bee works for DAVE TV people its his job to put down any claim on this site. |
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jojo49 Unregistered guest | there is nothing free, you pay for it one way or the othere |
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DTV in Canada Unregistered guest | |
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Anonymous | DAVE SITE |
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DTV in Canada Unregistered guest | Annonymous.... ONLY COWARDS HIDE BEHIND ANONYMITY... WHY ARE U AFRAID ? OF WHOM ARE U AFRAID ? DO I HAVE TO TEACH U HOW TO BE A MAN ? WHAT A LITTLE FAGGIT.... UR NOT WORTH MY TIME... |
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Anonymous | only fukkes like u hide behind there screens all day and post BS |
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Blah Blah Unregistered guest | can i use a 3 LNB Dave dish for charlie? or does it have to be a Carlie dish I have Charlie receivers ? |
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BIah BIah Unregistered guest | yes |
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New member Username: OzzmanPost Number: 4 Registered: Jun-04 | yes you can use any LNB Dave dish for any reciever from Bell to Free to Air. (you might need a different dish to get the proper reception though but the LNB will still be good). |
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wizard Unregistered guest | good info |
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wizard Unregistered guest | good info |
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Anonymous | Ok is there a flash for the Xtreme Sureshot(HU)so you can program the Bell ExpressVU Rom10 &Rom11 cards and if so can some one give me a site to go download it |
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Green Day Unregistered guest | jeese just be happy for the hundreds if not thousands that all of you have saved from hacking DTV. If there is to be no P4 or 5 hack than so be it. |
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Anonymous | and how is that answering my question??? |
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tanker Unregistered guest | gladiator or echoloader files will reflash your loader to work as an iso. |
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Anonymous | o\<img> |
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New member Username: OzzmanPost Number: 5 Registered: Jun-04 | 4700 got hit. have been trying to jyfix can someone give me step by step directions please. |
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Anonymous | anyone tried this site they claim to use a pso loader to hack p4/p5 cards? |
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Not Applebee Unregistered guest | Anybody here near downtown Toronto? hereviagra has the following mailing address. Go see who's there: PCS MARKETING 365 Roncessvalles Ave. Suite 107 Toronto ON M6R 2M8 |
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New member Username: OzzmanPost Number: 6 Registered: Jun-04 | Hey I would be VERY leary of these types of Email's ESPECIALLY if you got "the letter"It could very well be dave or one of his legal groups that has set up a website offering bogus dtv hacks and seeing who responds to their ads hoping to find someone else to set up and sue because you responded to their "bait"Do your self a favor just delete these emails they really wreak of a set up.GO look at other web site comments to see what everyone else is talking about. Your best bet is to wait before you purchase. |
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Applebee3 Unregistered guest | I'm not talking about responding to a web site. They've given an address in downtown Toronto to send $ to. I'm just curious as to who is actually at this address. |
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Not Applebee Unregistered guest | Never mind. This is a c&p from another site re:hereviagra: "I also emailed these jokers telling them I was coming down on wednesday morning with some cash for the hack and to make sure somone was there...I got a quick reply telling me that it was a mail box and not an office..I then replied and asked if someone could meet me to take my cash for the hack and once again got a quick reply saying they couldn't due to security reasons..what a joke.......Boy I'd like to run into these coxukers..I'd fricken lose it" |
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Not Applebee Unregistered guest | Now it works Mike |
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super dave Unregistered guest | I am dave hear me roar you can't get passed my locked door!!!! |
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pickledick Unregistered guest | holly crap the p3's are working again all channels don't know for how long? give it a try |
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Unregistered guest | Petra wants to hear vertigo thanks |
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D i C K h e a d Unregistered guest | if your getting an email Mr sengs imports cocerning the p400 don't answer, don't call, or even try to trace it. Reliable sources (gov employees I used to work with) inform me it is a trap site being used by Dave. Uses acompany of webheads that track any hits on the site. even if it is just to tell them not to send any more mail. Some how it's a blind send, just to see who answers. My buds told Dave's lawyer to take a hike, and suggested they needed to shut down, they were slightly illegal. Boy was that a relief. |
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The President of DIRECTV Unregistered guest | WHY A P4 HACK IS IMPOSSIBLE First, the background: To watch a particular channel, the receiver needs to receiver a DES key, 80 bits in length, every 8 seconds. Random data, generated (from a strong random source) at DTV headquarters, and sent to a card with all the tiers at dave headquarters. The result from that golden card is used as the DES key -- Even DTV can't predict the key. The tiers are added to that card through local communication -- not on the public stream. The core of the encryption is the ASIC, which implements a seeded psuedo- random number stream in hardware. Only a few designers know how this works. When a new generation of card is added, DTV runs those cards in PARALLEL, takes the XOR of their results, and sends that in the compatibility packets (CMD7F) - so there is no relation between the ASICs in each generation. So.. how to attack this: The IRD? The IRD is worthless from the hacking perspective. It just relays packets to and from the data stream to the card. Without the card, the IRD has no way of knowing what a golden card would return. Note that one DBS board, iso reader and subbed card, along with (unwritten?) software could give you an IRDless setup. Finally, many different manufacturers make IRDs. Anyone who can talk a good story could probably get the specifications under NDA from DTV. DTV itself: There is a reluctance to this, as most people like to consider collecting signals as not a moral offense, but actually intruding into a foreign system with intent to acquire data is a different story. That said, there has been at least one court document which detailed the security precautions taken by DTV with access card data. These precautions, assuming they are followed, include air gaps between sensitive systems and internal machines. If you were capable of getting into DTV's internal network, you would also be capable of finding much more lucrative targets with more of a chance of reward... That leaves the card.... The obvious target is the ASIC, which historically has been designed by NDS. NDS is a company with a large degree of cryptographic experience. Adi Shamir, one of the fathers of public key cryptography (and the S in RSA) is one of the founders of NDS. Since the H card, the ASIC has never been compromised -- not even with attacks discovered after their designs, such as Kocher's timing attack. And that's even if I can GET at the ASIC. So, what about the old standbys... First, software attacks. Dishnet has been very susceptible to these, as was the H card. During the design of the HU card, DTV instituted line-by-line code reviews, and common error handling via Trap #9. These resulted in COMPLETE success -- no exploitable software bugs were found in the HU card even after a complete disassembly. Conclusion - there is unlikely to be any exploitable software bugs in the P4 family... Protocol Weakness... The next question might be, is there something in the protocol that can be repeated, dropped, or otherwise missused. DTV's protocol has been very strong from the beginning -- using Zero Knowlege tests for the CAMID and public key encrypted and digitally signed packets. The card swap mechanism was strongly designed to avoid weaknesses -- and,even if there were holes, the liability would be limitted. Nor does the card have any concept of a "channel" -- its all in the encrypted packet which results in the DES key. Finally, the P4 card will disable itself through a write-once area if you sent too many bad packets to it. Information extraction (using passive means) Timing, power analysis, or even "listening" to the card reveals nothing except for possibly ZKT information (if you wanted to scam people with a CAMID/ZKT pair....). Getting timing information from the ASIC requires executing code on the card -- and there are techniques to prevent this, such as random loops, redundant calculation and normalization (always do the operation and then throw away the results that aren't needed). So, that doesn't help. Glitching... our old friend.. Glitching will be defined as ANY attack which varies any physical parameter of the card, be it the old standards (power, clock) or new (light, targeted magnetic fields) or absurd (alpha particle bombardment). There are three defenses to overcome.... 1. a capacitor provides for a steady current -- nix the voltage glitching and there are detectors should you bypass (fib edit) or destroy the capacitor. So even if you COULD bypass the capacitor on your card -- how do you package a very expensive FIB (focused ION beam) machine with every loader?!... 2. An internal clock so no clock glitching, and synchronizing your glitches is very, very tricky... 3. Finally, the last measure of protection -- software tricks against glitching... even with the ROM dump, these tricks are hard to get around, as was seen with the Hu. With the P4, these are improved. Examples include reading a random number from a hardware RNG, dividing it by a constant (variable amount of time), and remultiplying and checking the result. Since each divide/multiply takes a random amount of time, based on the random number, you won't know how to time a glitch to get past the jump on the incorrect result -- and if you glitch early, you muck up either the divide or multiply, and the software has caught you! Together these defenses make glitching into this card practically impossible. (if you know a good way around the divide/multiply method.. please let me know) Physical security... So, giving up on all the non destructive attacks, lets say I rip apart my card, take out the chip, remove layers with incredibly hazardous chemicals (shortening my lifespan in the process). Northsat did this on the Hu, and DTV doesn't make mistakes twice. For the P4 and later, there are physical tamper protections. There are thin wires in the protective metal layers above the processor which, if dissolved, result in the card not powering up. Manually patching all of these will be tedious. FUrther, the P4 has light sensitive areas, so you have to do all this in the dark! Finally, the core layout of key chips is spaghetti because of cell-based design and better layout software (poor mask designers...) so you'll need a electron microscope (or better) and a laser voltage probe to even figure out what is going on.. and a lot of time, patience and money.. So the most accessible approach is to make very good friends with the janitor at a well equipped college campus, or sleep with a very well connected DTV employee and con them out of the documents... Assuming that you get the complete ROM dump (by either means) and you have the Opcodes, and you find, miracle of miracles, an unchecked buffer overflow. Glitching still won't work, so this is your only chance. Now, the parts that make this really tough: Non-executable EEPROm -- (can anyone confirm?) This means that even if you found a bug, you have to apply your patch every time the card resets. This means an interposer or IRD modification to send down the exploit. On the other hand, it means that dynamic updates are less likely.. Less safe space to store code -- Since the P4 is split into multiple cores, there is very little general purpose RAM for a complicated 3M -- copying code from eeprom (assuming you can find space) into ram is going to make writing any sort of code for this card a real nuisance. fatal ECMs: Since glitching is impossible, the first ECM you get hit with is the last. Since the supply of new P4s is still limitted, 3M writing is going to be like breakdancing in a minefield...Activation and PPV wipes will be tough to hit, although anything out of the ordinary - like incorrect dates, unknown tiers, or corrupted group keys, and you have another ice scraper. ... And, the final reasons why no one would bother with any of the above: The internet: As soona s you start selling a means to do this, it will be ripped off. Unless you program every card individually (high, high risk), you'll find out how quickly a serial logger can open "encrypted" WinExplorer scripts. And as soon as someone figures out your bug, it will be on EVERY dss site within an hour. If you make custom hardware, it will be reverse engineered, since your security budget is less than DTV's.... and ... the long arm of the law.. If someone decided to be a hero, and hacked the P4, and found a bug, and released the activation, and got jackshit for it... well, you'd have free TV until someone turns you in for a hefty reward (contact signal integrity for details of the reward program), ruins your life with court cases, jail and restitution.. And the bahamas do have extradition treaties with the united states.. The conclusion of all this -- Enjoy dish while it lasts. The sun is setting on the pirate era, and soon you will be paying even more for less. |
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cockhard Unregistered guest | old spice body wash smells gooooood!!!!!! oh ya!!!!! T.V. should smell good too!!!! oh ya!!!! trade your bootstrap for a strap on oh ya!!! |
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analman Unregistered guest | if a could suck my own dick i would would you |
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pickledick Unregistered guest | petra still wants to hear vertigo |
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oh B A B Y Unregistered guest | s u c k my d i c k |
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Go West Unregistered guest | WHY DONT YOU BUNCH OF PERVERTS GO TO THIS SITE.... AND YOU CAN FIND THIS...... (C&P) I went to the nflguy site to check it out....and this is what I saw......... I saw all those fat ...flat-assed old farts ...all just in their underware....drinking beer and looking at CHILD P0RN.....I saw one jacking off and even one of them was giving the nflguy a blowjob ... What a disgusting scene....I was about to throw up.........Of course they knew shit about the hack... they just get together there to do all their perverse and filthy deeds |
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Peckerwood returns Unregistered guest | ********** APPLEBEE'S ENDING ************ Wow......Im so glad applebee has finally been banned from this site and that everything related to applebee has been wiped away... In case any applebee attempts to make a comeback ..... just send them here......http://www.twerked.com/%7Esplice/advice So have a nice day !! |
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Peckerwood returns Unregistered guest | Sorry.....this is the site....lol http:/www.twerked.com/~splice/advice |
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New member Username: GranvillePost Number: 1 Registered: Oct-04 | IM GETTING PICTURE FROM THE P4 CARDS SOME GUY HOOK IT UP WITH THE RECEIVER SOME ACTIVATION THING DONT KNOW MUCH BUT ALL I KNOW IM GETTING PICTURE IS IT TRUE THAT THE P4 CARDS WILL BE GOING DOWN IN 2 MONTHS TIME AND I HEARD DIRECT TV IS COMMING OUT WITH A NEW CARD OTHER THAN THE P5 IS IT TRUE THANKS |
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Bad Applebee Unregistered guest | HUH? |
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a friendly Dave insider Unregistered guest | P4 and P5 are identical cards, except for a few minor hackable flaws on P4 that have been already corrected. These cards are planned to be valid until late april of year 2006, when DIRECTV will be switching to its still under development Dinetra codification. Its still undecided if there will be a P6 card at all. Most probable is this new generation IRD will be a cardless one. |
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Curious Applebee Unregistered guest | Interesting. Someone who seems to know something about something. Who'se going to pay for the new receivers? And if you're an insider, should we be abandoning all hope of a crack? |
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the real applebee Unregistered guest | Don't abandon ANY hope of a P4/5 hack...and rumors is there will be a P6 GOLD card in April,but I don't believe that,and if so it will be short lived..I have been told by a fairly reliable source that DTV already has a cardless IRD,but also that a guy in Ohio has already hacked it.. |
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Curious Applebee Unregistered guest | Thanks real. Hope something happens eventually. Still like to hear more from the "insider". Back to my shared DTV sub and basic rogers cable in Toronto in the mean time... |
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Ya. OK there Unregistered guest | If you were to add the IQ's of the last 20 posters you would get a grand total of about 47. People keep playing in fairy tale world. |
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slasher Unregistered guest | YA.OK -- so what you have to say -if thats it you keep your mouth shut ---fukin pussie |
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New member Username: OzzmanPost Number: 7 Registered: Jun-04 | If Dave switches the cards,the p4/5 has a 128 ecription, thats the same ecription that the government uses for security. So as far as i was told the 128 eription is the highest ecription so it will still be the same. But on the good hand maybe they realized how much money they lost in sales from switching the cards. So maybe they will make the ecription easier to be hacked. |
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CRACK Unregistered guest | Has anyone tried swiping the P4 between your A$$? I have heard this method will kill any type of encryptions that trys to sniff the packets. Try this new crack by swiping your cards between your butt crack... who knows if it doesnt work, you might like it. |
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Tompson Unregistered guest | so what is the best deal??? |
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key largo Unregistered guest | Thre are no deals with Directv (DTV)..U can only subscribe and then "share" it with some buds,thats the best and only DTV deal because there is no P4/5 card DTV hack..anyone selling ANY P4/5 DTV "deal" is a scammmer.. Dish and Bev (canadian DTV equivalent) can be hacked..and FTA is cardless,legal,and can get both Dish,Bev,and other channels but will be down within the year (as will be Dish) when the Nagra2 switch is completed..so U decide,what U want to do..I suggest share a DTV sub for now,while waiting for the P4/5 public hack.. |
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Tompson Unregistered guest | What is the Nagra2 switch and FTA?? |
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missing the HU Unregistered guest | has anyone heard of p4dragon.com If so can you post your review. thanks |
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Anonymous | SCAMMERS for the 100th time!!! |
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Anonymous | Best deal of all: Posted on Monday, November 22, 2004 - 05:45 am: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mr Whitefolks -- You are so stupid. .27 cents is less than 1/3 of a penny. And you don't even know that, but yet you talk about "supplementing income" and "tax write-off's." You gotta be "the mouth." Anonymous -- You gotta be his attorney because you're as dumb as he is. Go Dish. At this addy. Look for it in Google, they'll tell you they can't find it, but then they'll ask if it's a legit URL. Hit the identical "link" addy that they'll post, and you'll get the buy of your life: The whole ball of wax FREE!!! Here it is: Four receivers, four cards, 2 HDTV receivers, 2 digital video tv recorders, 2 remotes, and a satellite dish. Your cost: 0! And installation is free, as well. GUARANTEED!!! And bad credit is NOT a problem! (Must be U.S. address.) Offer ends in three days. Happy Thanksgiving and an early Merry Christmas! Anonymous Posted on Monday, November 22, 2004 - 06:05 am: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sorry. That's 4 remotes, not 2. This company is the largest distributer/affiliate for Dish/Echo Star in the world, and you're in safe hands. I know. I did it! Basic package is $29/mo., 60 channels. The "rest" is easy to add to. Santa Claus. |
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key largo Unregistered guest | Now tell me that these forums aren't Dave and Charlie owned!..its Sooooo obvious! |
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