Archive through September 08, 2004
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Silver Member Username: ElgringoviegoPost Number: 276 Registered: Jun-04 | applebee -- Some habits are hard to break, including that of signing your posts. But I won't bust you on that. You did say that all of the "applebee" posts here are yours, right? Your refusal to respond to any of my questions is a big enough cigar for me. Direct me to the post hereat that proves me wrong. It doesn't exist. If you really want the "war of words" to end, as you so wisely suggest, then stop being so presumptuous and bashing every post that isn't to your liking. I won't include my own because you know I'll be all over you the moment you attack. Go about your business in your newly found woebegone home. Straighten us all out. Patiently, Ken |
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Rodney King Unregistered guest | Why Can't We All Just Get Along ???? |
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original omen Unregistered guest | SEEMS GUY IN RED TRUNKS WAS ONLY GOOD FOR 1 ROUND....  |
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New member Username: OmenPost Number: 3 Registered: Sep-04 | if you were the real omen u would be registerd but ur not so k |
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J. Roo Unregistered guest | J Roo- JoRonn_4@msn.com I am not a scammer. I buy and sell on ebay, but I could not offer them for $5.00 each there. You have to pay a fee when you list an item and also when it sells. J Roo |
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real omen Unregistered guest | omen ...if U "WANT TO BITE THE DUST" just GET IN LINE.. |
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Bronze Member Username: DeafPost Number: 54 Registered: Aug-04 | and the torture never stops....lol..by Frank Zappa |
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Anonymous | deaf... What does Frank Zappa got to do with "satalite" TV......J/K  |
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Silver Member Username: Jmill1948Chester, Va Usa Post Number: 238 Registered: Apr-04 | the beating of the drum is getting louder...........starting to hear it better everyday.....till then.......peace.jmill |
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Bronze Member Username: DeafPost Number: 55 Registered: Aug-04 | It has absolutley nothing to do with sat. tv but for those who know better, they get the drift. |
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Silver Member Username: TazspinPost Number: 160 Registered: May-04 | deaf that Anonymous did say j/k for just kidding I assume he was making fun of the guy that took offense to the Bob Dylan quote earlier. |
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Anonymous | Yeah deaf... We're supposed to be the good guys... |
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applebee Unregistered guest | its Saturday Night Live with Kenneth Rosannabanana David. |
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Silver Member Username: BootleggerPost Number: 113 Registered: Apr-04 | what did the last 20 or so posts have to do with DSS or DTV. none, What a bunch of wasted ban width. so go on. make more A$$es of yourselfs. |
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original omen Unregistered guest | boot....What in the hell does your post have to do with satellite tv, you stupid monkey? |
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johnny f-bomb Unregistered guest | since i havent read anything recently (meaning in the past 24) on a hack coming soon,,its fair to assume no one has heard any good news lately,, i do know most of you here are way more knowledgable then i am about dave,, that is the reason y i come here,, to learn,, and for the occassional laff,, keep it up guys,, thanks ! |
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Silver Member Username: ElgringoviegoPost Number: 277 Registered: Jun-04 | imposter -- There are very few people who know that's my middle name, and they're all my biotches. Keep it up, young lady, and you won't be getting no mas platinos en tu coochi. Ken |
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real omen Unregistered guest | OH MY GOD !!! KEN IS NOW SPEAKING IN TONGUES !!!! THE POOR SUCKER TOOK SUCH A BAD BEATING... |
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Silver Member Username: ElgringoviegoPost Number: 278 Registered: Jun-04 | johnny f-bomb -- Good News could be coming as soon as Thursday, possibly even before. In the interim, we're all just biding our time, so enjoy the show and laff it up. Ken |
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Silver Member Username: TazspinPost Number: 161 Registered: May-04 | Wasted bandwidth well it aint like we have to pay for it and there really isn't much dss related news to talk about especially when it comes to dtv. |
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applebee Unregistered guest | "no mas",you say.Just like Roberto Duran said too,and what eventually happened to rosannabanana.At least they had something to offer this world on a Professional level,unlike you. |
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Silver Member Username: ElgringoviegoPost Number: 279 Registered: Jun-04 | real omen -- The last beating I took was a tongue lashing by you-know-who, and you-know-where, and you-know-how good it made me feel. Thanks, Ken |
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Silver Member Username: ElgringoviegoPost Number: 280 Registered: Jun-04 | imposter -- Keep your commas inside of the quotation marks, double space after a period, the word "too," when used as a substitute for "often" should be preceded and followed by a comma. "Just like...rosannabanana." is not a complete sentence, the "p" in profressional should not be capitalized, and you should single space after all commas. Other than that, what you said makes no sense whatsoever. Ken |
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Silver Member Username: ElgringoviegoPost Number: 281 Registered: Jun-04 | James -- I just received word that "Big Man" hereat is out of town: He flew back east. Does that make your belly tickle? Ken |
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Bronze Member Username: DeafPost Number: 56 Registered: Aug-04 | Don't know if you guys know what a tele-zapper is but just wondering if this device could help us in any way hooked up to the ird phone line? There, this has something to do with sat.tv.....lol |
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Silver Member Username: Jmill1948Chester, Va Usa Post Number: 239 Registered: Apr-04 | ken big meeting...mexican gentleman and canadaian gentleman meeting in lovely site of the sopranos"""""""""" ill be talking soon.............peace.jmill |
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Silver Member Username: Jmill1948Chester, Va Usa Post Number: 240 Registered: Apr-04 | im tickled.......... |
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Silver Member Username: TazspinPost Number: 162 Registered: May-04 | well the tele-zapper is for incoming calls I believe whereas the integrated receiver device makes outgoing calls so I don't see where it would help unless there is some way to reverse the tele-zapper and even then since the ird doesn't report to the sat company they won't send the neccessary code through sat signal (they don't send code through the phone line just recieve info) to wipe the ppv or whatever you thought the phone line might do. |
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applebee Unregistered guest | Kenneth,your grammar class info is incorrect.Irregardless,thanks for the PM,and yes you're right,this is VERY entertaining.Great idea you had,and keeps some interested in the site,which keeps the site and sponsors happy. Taz,you are absolutely correct,so we(Ken and I) do the SNL skit to entertain everyone until there is some real DTV news to talk about. |
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Bronze Member Username: DeafPost Number: 57 Registered: Aug-04 | Taz it also does the same thing when any outcalls are made. |
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Silver Member Username: ElgringoviegoPost Number: 282 Registered: Jun-04 | applebee -- You're absulutely correct. Step to the head of the class! The word "often" should have been "also." (That was a test.) On the other hand, there is no such word as "Irregardless." It's "regardless," period. What you're saying wold mean "not regardless," and I know that you don't mean that...or, maybe you do. Taz Spin is always correct, and he doesn't need anyone confirming the OBVIOUS! How would you feel if I had posted, "applebee, you are absolutely correct in telling Taz Spin that he is absolutely correct"? That would be adding redundency to redundent, and I warned you about that when I PM'd you at your unregistered nick. I don't know if you've noticed or not, but some of us have been talking about real DTV issues, some coded and some not. M<ki ..?/48h9..! Ken |
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Bronze Member Username: MartinOntario Canada Post Number: 80 Registered: Jul-04 | looks like all the kids are in bed for school tomorow lol.all the smart posters are back,congrats guys. |
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Silver Member Username: ElgringoviegoPost Number: 283 Registered: Jun-04 | martin -- I guess that just leaves you and me. Well, at least I'm in good company. |
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first omen Unregistered guest | Pathetic.....Just a bunch of dogs waiting for The Bone |
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New member Username: BjkiddPost Number: 5 Registered: Jun-04 | here is a c&p from a mail that i got > > Here is the latest news at Your Favorite Homesite NewCardNews. > > Satellite Pirate Nabbed - Highly Sensitive Documents and Hardware Seized! > > Friday was not an ordinary day for Conrad Hemmings, a Toronto Based software engineer, who was awaken by the aggressive knocking of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police and Local Toronto Police at his front door. > > Hemmings a self described hacker has been a key figure in a six month probe into criminal satellite decryption and development of satellite television decoder equipment that was to be sold at a premium through various underground websites who carry such devices and software. > > When officials entered the Hemmings residence they found hundreds of documents and plans pertaining to the decryption of a new satellite card that is used by subscribers of American Based satellite provider Directv inc. There was also a full range of satellite equipment on the premises that was fully functional and illegal decryption was taking place in the home. > > Officials for Directv had been tipped off of the coming raid by ..... READ The Rest of the Story on the site. > > Read it at http://newcardnews.net > > --------------------------------------------- |
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First Wondering Unregistered guest | Hey applebee....If U really want to entertain us, do a Big Balls impersonation...  |
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Silver Member Username: TazspinPost Number: 163 Registered: May-04 | This "news" story cannot be confirmed people in toronto haven't heard about it it isn't on any news website the wording of the rcmp doesn't sound right not to mention that newcardnews.com is not a reliable site considering the site wars they were involved in. Now if you can find another source stating the same thing I might believe it but currently it sounds like a excuse for not delivering the hack. |
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What a Schmuck Unregistered guest | . bjkidd ......I saw that movie too . |
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applebee Unregistered guest | hey First.Really I don't even know of him.I honestly am NOT him.I have NEVER posed here as someone other than who I am.You're way off on this one pal. That Conrad Hemmings story is a fabrication,someone's idea of a laugh to get everyone's hopes up.Many sites state that they have authenticated it as being bogus. Ken,this time your grammar lesson was correct,my bad.But I haven't seen you post ANY reliable DSS info,only repeat a BS rumor which was discovered to be bogus, which was admitted by the site who was initiating the rumor.(the rumor being that they had or will soon release the P4 hack from their own reliable source "The Man")So I don't call your posts, "real DTV issues".Now Taz,is a different story,he writes about many real DSS issues and in honestly,but he nor anyone is "always correct".So therefore OBVIOUSLY,it is NOT OBVIOUS. |
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Silver Member Username: TazspinPost Number: 164 Registered: May-04 | wow the fake sure seems to be more intelligent than the real applebee(isn't that a restaurent). |
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applebee Unregistered guest | Surprised at you Taz.I have never bashed you.I thought you were one of the more intelligent ones here and with some class and integrity. |
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T.O. Unregistered guest | bjkidd have not heard of any such story and I live in T.O |
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applebee Unregistered guest | Taz,I have always respected both you and Walter.Don't drop to the level of those around you. |
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Silver Member Username: TazspinPost Number: 165 Registered: May-04 | Ok applebee can also make intelligent posts. |
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Silver Member Username: TazspinPost Number: 166 Registered: May-04 | Sorry applebee I am a little drunk and wasn't paying close enough attention and I admit my post a coouple above wasn't called for, but you were involved in a piss match with some one else so I just went with it even though I aint sure how I feel about the one you were bashing. |
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Bronze Member Username: DeafPost Number: 58 Registered: Aug-04 | applebee I know u know who I am, and I know who u r ... just leave it alone |
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Bronze Member Username: DeafPost Number: 59 Registered: Aug-04 | sh!t... nobody wants to say anything....think I'll go away for an hour...and come back |
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another applebee Unregistered guest | When I think of Taz Spin ....I imagine him as that little dude with the long beard and a big axe from the Lord of the Rings Movie .... |
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Bronze Member Username: DeafPost Number: 60 Registered: Aug-04 | another applebee smoke another joint man..lol |
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the fake applebee Unregistered guest | deaf ....please tell us who applebee is.....besides being : casey jones the voice CJ-voice pineapple <--- he likes to be an apple peeper peckerwood PW PW-voice Big Balls all the "reals","firsts", "originals",of the aboves etc.,etc |
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Bronze Member Username: DeafPost Number: 61 Registered: Aug-04 | sorry can't he's a friend. |
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the fake applebee Unregistered guest | deaf...then U sleep with DOGS...shame on U |
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Silver Member Username: TazspinPost Number: 167 Registered: May-04 | well I do have a some what of a long beard now I guess I need to get a big axe. (sounds like fun taz spins with big axe) |
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Bronze Member Username: DeafPost Number: 62 Registered: Aug-04 | no i sleep with the truth |
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applebee Unregistered guest | deaf,I don't care if you know who I am.Whats your point? Is that a threat? Should I be ashamed,embarassed,physically afraid,what? Do you have a need to threaten me,then do it! Just be prepared to back it up and pay in spades. |
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The Second Omen Unregistered guest | BTW....Where did Ken "Rosannabanana" David go....poor fellow ....he really got bangged a while ago.... |
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Bronze Member Username: DeafPost Number: 63 Registered: Aug-04 | applebee was just try'in to comm the situation....forget it |
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The Second Omen Unregistered guest | applebee.... deaf is a chicken-shit pussie....so don't waste our time... |
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Silver Member Username: RysportfanPost Number: 106 Registered: Jul-04 | Hey everyone (Ken, taz, deaf, walter and anyone else) I havent been able to post lately (computer went down at work so I only can check up when Im at home. But any way just wanted to say Im still around but I have no info just like everyone else. Ken if you hear any thing PM me with any info I always check my mail but dont have as much time to come here anymore. Rich |
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Bronze Member Username: DeafPost Number: 64 Registered: Aug-04 | the second omen...go back to bed kid, peace TY |
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Silver Member Username: ElgringoviegoPost Number: 284 Registered: Jun-04 | applebee -- I'm still waiting for your first DSS post. I've never claimed to be anything more than what I am, but you haven't been on board long enough to know that. And judging from your last response to me about the OBVIOUS not being always so OBVIOUSLY true, I guess we have to wait until you sign-off on it before we know if it's true or not. You say that, but where does your credibility come from? You won't even post under your own nick, and we're supposed to believe that you're the end-all know-it-all? Where's the beef? Tell us one thing that we don't already know. It's put up or shut up time. You sound like our Nemesis, the Mouth, et al. He, too, always kissed up to the guys like Taz Spin and Walter because he didn't want the more technically informed of us to jump all over him whenever he was wrong, which was so often. You, on the other hand, have never been technically "wrong," as of yet, because you have never posted anything technical. All you do is blow your own horn and berate others for not doing what you have never done. Sounds phoney to me, pal. And as for you other gnats who get your kicks out of bashing guys like Taz and deaf and boot, etc., you're all just low-lifes who don't have a clue about anything. Have fun. I do. Play around. I do. But you'll never hear me say an unkind word about any of the guys who keep this site together. We had a guy here for a while who was also unregistered. He used the nick THE TRUTH. All he did was post solid information, post after post, until the banshees drove him off. Even when he tried to return after a personal tragedy he was impersonated and mocked. And that's what they're going to do to you, as well, applebee. You want to continue to match wits with me, bring in on. I actually enjoy it. And it's even more fun knowing that you can never win. But in truth, and I mean this, it really pi$$es me off when I see these same a$$holes torching you just because it's the only way they can get their kicks. Unfortunately, even if you had posted some worthwhile information, they'd still be all over you. Let's see if your skin is as thick as mine. Ken |
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New member Username: BjkiddPost Number: 6 Registered: Jun-04 | here is some info that heard on the weekend {just to keep our hopes up} 1 had words with a guy claiming there is a program here in manitoba. now from what i read here i told him B.S there is no program so after more words he said well it only lasts 7 days. i will try to find out more. 2 checked out one source they told me to check back in 2 weeks and don't throw away the old card |
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Bronze Member Username: WindupPost Number: 57 Registered: Jun-04 | Well I see the UA's (unregsitered A$$holes) are after ken again, some things never change. Keep up the fight for right Ken. Labour Day weekend has come and gone with no fix. Hopefully we will be watching dtv by thanksgiving. wayne |
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Anonymous | . "Oops..I did it again".....Britney Spears . |
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gocuse3 Unregistered guest | did anyone hear if you get one of those activation scripts the dealers are offering that after the 3 month is up you card might not be functional anymore |
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Bronze Member Username: WindupPost Number: 58 Registered: Jun-04 | ill iderit ill iderit, dont recon i done think the preseedent 0f ecoustics. com. was ill iderit |
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Silver Member Username: TazspinPost Number: 168 Registered: May-04 | well as long as we are quoting musicians how about welcome to the jungle G-n-R or welcome to my nightmare Alice Cooper. |
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Bronze Member Username: WindupPost Number: 59 Registered: Jun-04 | How about Tom Cochrane Lunatic Fringe |
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Silver Member Username: ElgringoviegoPost Number: 285 Registered: Jun-04 | How about Ken Kesey's book/movie, One Flew Over the CooCoo's Nest |
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Bronze Member Username: WindupPost Number: 60 Registered: Jun-04 | Wake me up p4 you go go. George (i like the mens room) Micheals |
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Silver Member Username: ElgringoviegoPost Number: 286 Registered: Jun-04 | If anyone can top Wayne Upshaw's, I'll send them a P4/D1 hack. (Just trying to combine the humor with DSS, as did Wayne, so someone doesn't get mad at us.) |
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Silver Member Username: TazspinPost Number: 169 Registered: May-04 | There is no hack (except in some people imagination) and you don't need to yell. When or if there is ever a hack you will hear about it because it will be the talk of the web. so Bud wise up. |
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save the expos Unregistered guest | I normally just come here to read, but here is a C&P from dishnewsonline. Scammers are desperate // 2004-09-06 These guys are using what ever means they can to fool people, here is the BS story published on one of the site. "Satellite Pirate Nabbed - Highly Sensitive Documents and Hardware Seized! Friday was not an ordinary day for Conrad Hemmings, a Toronto Based software engineer, who was awaken by the aggressive knocking of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police and Local Toronto Police at his front door. Hemmings a self described hacker has been a key figure in a six month probe into criminal satellite decryption and development of satellite television decoder equipment that was to be sold at a premium through various underground websites who carry such devices and software. When officials entered the Hemmings residence they found hundreds of documents and plans pertaining to the decryption of a new satellite card that is used by subscribers of American Based satellite provider Directv inc. There was also a full range of satellite equipment on the premises that was fully functional and illegal decryption was taking place in the home. Officials for Directv had been tipped off of the coming raid by Canadian officials that were monitoring the Internet communications of Hemmings and other parties involved in an elaborate group effort to market this new technology that would allow Directv subscribers to view unauthorized programming without paying for it, using the devices and software that Hemmings had devoloped. Hemmings was known by his friends on the Internet chatrooms by his online alias, cracker and was a frequent user of Internet relay chat, a system that is used by millions of people to chat with each other on the web and exchange files as well. "We Got to him on time, We know he was the only one with the design and manufacturing plans, we did well to act as planned" said a media relations official of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police Toronto Detachment. "There was potential here for Hemmings to launder millions of dollars if he would have released this system of his" adding that " This business of piracy affects Canadians with the black market sales as well as underground export to the United States" Directv Officials were unavailable for comment." The above story is NOT true and these guys are trying to set the ground for a new scam. An other site is sending spam emails telling people that they will be releasing the P4 hack by end of Sept. and they are taking pre-orders at this time...... if you have more money than brain you can go ahead and do a pre-order I am sick of writing over and over that there is NO P4 hack out... if/when anything comes up you will see it on my news. Hope this helps put that story to bed. |
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ringsider Unregistered guest | Wayne Upshaw....What or who is "ill iderit" ? Sorry but I'm a newbee to satellite TV hacking. |
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Silver Member Username: Jmill1948Chester, Va Usa Post Number: 241 Registered: Apr-04 | ken deaf ty its happening as i am typing.......maiami meets nj peace.jmill |
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applebee Unregistered guest | The Soprano's and SNL ,all in one! peace all. |
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Anonymous | . "The Great Pretender "......Ken "Rosannabanana" David . |
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cracker Unregistered guest | LMFAO |
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original omen Unregistered guest | . FIGHTER IN BLUE TRUNKS REFUSES TO LEAVE HIS CORNER WHAT A SORRY CHICKEN.... . |
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New member Username: ColaPost Number: 1 Registered: Sep-04 | save the expos: If you do not believe the c&p that you posted check out this site: http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/news/2003/n_0352_e.htm |
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What a Schmuck Unregistered guest | Yeah applebee ....U dont deserve to be here...GO AWAY U miserable bugger |
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Anonymous | applebee sux big dik |
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tyrader2000 Unregistered guest | JMILL, PM me @ freetv49 with details. I'm on west coast time so I get posts later. Glad to see the mix of fact and flame is still working here. Enjoy it, Later TY |
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LT. Ridowski Unregistered guest | Hope u'll have that that thing fixed before I get home.....luv America....Good morning Bagdad |
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applebee Unregistered guest | BEWARE OF UNSCRUPULOUS SCOUNDRELS WHO ANNOUNCE AN UPCOMING P4 HACK... 1.-If there was a hack, a P4-ZKT would be posted. if the ROM were already dumped, this would be known. 2. There is no way to recoup the development costs -- the lawsuits have made buying risky, and the voracious free-tv'ers will steal the technology rather than pay for the equipment and time reverse engineering the product. 3. Dtv has learned from the past -- the F didn't have the ASIC -- fixed in the H. The H had software bugs which allowed access -- fixed with the development process and code reviews for the Hu. The Hu was vulnerable to power/clock glitches -- fixed in the P4 generation. Remember, for there to be a viable hack, it has to be packagable -- which if it requires Focused Ion Beam editting to enable glitching, won't be useable by very many testers. Finally, the appeal to time. The Hu was already compromised by the time the H stream was dying. People want to hear that it is hacked, so they believe, but historically, the previous card had always been hacked before the death of the current generation. Dealers can't make money if they don't sell what they have, if they have it. You also have to consider any group that has a hack and is holding it back "for the right moment" risks getting beat to the punch by another group. If it were stable and marketable, it would be out there right now, while the demand is ripe and high. Its nice to say that what man has made, man can break, but breaking and hacking are two totally different things. Think not? Go ask all the peeps who waited forever for a VCII+ hack. Any day now turned into years and still nothing. Primestar was the same way and also made by GI and never ever hacked. It did have a smart card slot which was never used, because it was never needed, because the hardware inside was never compromised. Guess who bought out primestar and that technology? Yep DTV. The H card was hacked well before the F was dead and the Hu hack was public even before the H was dead. Now you have a nearly dead Hu and not a single viable dealer even offering ANY sort of hack for the P4/P5/D1. Would a good businessman/businesswoman wait till everyone has jumped ship and bought a FTA or ran to charlie, then release a hack? I think not. If it were out there and stable folks, it would be available right now, while the iron is hot and panicked peeps are willing to pay the cheeks off their a$$ to get it. Even if it were, an "unglitchable" card will be an icescraper everytime it gets looped, because if you can't glitch into the loop, how ya gonna unloop it? Don't hold your breath folks, because the road ahead is going to get rocky and now that the heat is on charlie, he is going to jump right in and take care of some business too. Everyone keeps saying the dealers have to make their money first, but when no dealer is selling, they are not making any money, because they simply don't have anything to sell at this point. All those promises that it was out there but "not needed at this time" were bullshit. "It would only be released when somebody could make some money off of it." Uh, from reading the forums I see quite a few desperate people out there who can't watch TV right now. The "market" seems pretty damn ripe to me. 2. Not one SHRED of evidence has surfaced that anybody has gotten into a P4. I see a lot of posts that say it's "too unstable" for public release. Since when do hackers care whether something is stable enough for the public...getting all ethical now? Again, I call BULLSHlT. Or maybe they're talking about it being too unstable to SELL. You don't have to prove it's been compromised by posting a working fix. A simple P4/D1 range CAMID and matching ZKT that can be verified is all that is needed to prove it has been compromised. Posted via proxy or whatever other means to protect the poster from the authorities. How about an EEPROM dump? Partial disassembly (reverse engineer) of that dump? We haven't seen it because it's not there. The card has been out for two years and not one single byte of verifiable data has appeared to substantiate that a hacker has seen it's secrets. What do you think? Just by pure chance we should have already seen something...in two years? 3. ...One man can make it, another man can break it. I'm sick of seeing that one. While it's true that nothing can be 100% secure...all DTV has to do is keep you out long enough to make it financially feasible to keep issuing new cards. As long as it takes a few years (3-5) to break into the current card, they're ahead of the game and already issuing new cards. At that point it's OVER. Where's the financial gain in that (for the hackers)? The only people left trying to get in are the few *true* hackers who are doing it because they can't resist a challenge. Then, once all the forums and DSS sites whither up and die, the number of people actively probing the inner workings of the cards goes down drastically. Something else goes down with the number of people and it's the most important of all: KNOWLEDGE. Fewer people with less knowledge means the "attack front" is reduced and with it the threat and probability of compromises of current and future cards. Think about it, if it takes another year for a P4 hack to surface, 90% of all the D*T specific DSS sites will be long gone. Their goal of crushing the piracy market will have succeeded. 4. Anybody who's looked at those leaked specifications will see that the P4/D1 is a kick a$$ card. Now assuming that those documents are not faked (they looked pretty damn offical to me) some things that stand out are: A. The inability to change CAMID's (they're hard coded - not in EEPROM). That one right there kills a LOT of ability. It's surprising they didn't inlcude that ability (or lack thereof) in earlier cards. Sure as hell makes it harder to hack when you can't clone cards. Of course the no ZKT mod would help here, but I would imagine that they will come up with a way of requiring your private key or group keys to be valid for the given CAMID in order to take essential updates. Meaning if you spoof a CAMID using some no ZKT method, there still exists the possibility of still requiring the ID to match other important corresponding data on the card in order for it to function properly. B. A shut down mechanism. The card processor is reportedly to be based on a European smart money card that is loaded with cash and as you buy things, it deducts from the balance on the card. Once the card reaches zero, it's designed to self destruct so that as they are thrown into the trash they aren't scooped up by hackers trying to reload money on them. They are destroyed via code in ROM at the end of their lives. If D*V chose to implement that into the P4/D1 - you're f*cked! Instead of getting looped - your card gets irreversibly KILLED. Quite nasty and quite effective. If I were designing a card I would surely include such a function. C. The specs call for the ability of the card to handle a tier expiration date rollover that occurs some 10+ years from now. Seems they are quite confident that the card will remain unhacked for that amount of time. Why make that specification? 5. Be aware that the people who are designing these cards are not stupid. Yes, they may have overlooked many weaknesses in their designs in the past, but they are learning from them. All the newer cards are implementing more and more encryption capabilities. In case you don't know, public key cryptosystems cannot be broken. Unless someone comes up with a way of efficiently factoring large primes (the basis for PKE), it will remain unbroken. With the utilization of more and more of this technology into smart cards, hacking them starts becoming insurmountable. This new card has TONS of cryptographic functions. And these are ones that go waaaaaay beyond a simple XOR key! Think about the ZKT. It has never been possible to generate your own CAMID/ZKT pair on any of the cards. This just proves it's effectiveness (it's using properties of PKE digital signing). Now imagine using that CAMID/ZKT idea for zeroing out PPV purchases. Instead of using a simple 0, to indicate the obvious zero balance, think if they used the ZKT idea (or digitally signed the PPV's). If the PPV zero balance was digitally signed, it then becomes a special, non-recreateable, non-zero number. How would you get around that? What about tiers? What if the tiers were digitally signed for each card? The possibilites numb the mind! The important part? If implemented, there are no workarounds for them until PKE is broken! So better start looking for any option of a legit DTV service...BEFORE PRICES START GOING UP! |
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Bronze Member Username: DeafPost Number: 65 Registered: Aug-04 | Ken I think I figured it out.....it's called The Butterfly Effect....lol |
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The Second Omen Unregistered guest | deaf.....go suck a big C0CK |
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Bronze Member Username: DeafPost Number: 66 Registered: Aug-04 | the second omen I thought I told you to go back to bed last night. Grow up kid! |
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applebee Unregistered guest | here we go again,,I've got another imposter again..Not my post above (the c/p post)..must be a West coast kid cause of the time now on East and school tomorrow...peace |
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Bronze Member Username: DeafPost Number: 67 Registered: Aug-04 | applebee.....thats why u have to register...but even then sometimes they will steal your name. peace |
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Finish 24 Unregistered guest | ******THIS IS THE PROOF THAT APPLEBEE IS ALSO THAT ODIOUS INDIVIDUAL KNOWN AS PECKERWOOD******** THIS IS A C/P FROM ANOTHER THREAD ON THIS SITE.... applebee Unregistered guest Posted on Sunday, September 05, 2004 - 06:25 pm: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 things: PW-voice,U are an imposter,as we both know and anybody here who has half a brain who can read and see.Be original in name use.Build your own identity. OK THEN...HOW COULD HE POSSIBLY KNOW PW-voice IS AN IMPOSTER....BECAUSE > HE < IS ALSO PW... *****LIERS FALL BY THEIR OWN STUPIDITY****** |
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Bronze Member Username: DeafPost Number: 68 Registered: Aug-04 | Folks that's all BS....beleive me... |
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Finish 24 Unregistered guest | BTW....HE'S SAYING TO BE ORIGINAL ...BUT HE'S ALSO IMPERSONATING A DUDE FROM ANOTHER SITE NAMED appleB.......WHAT A LOW LIFE SCUM... BTW...THE OTHER THREAD IS CALLED P4 HACK MAYBEE ? BTW.... THAT DEAF DUDE IS DEFFENDING THIS WEASEL BECAUSE ITS WELL KNOWN THAT HE LIES WITH DOGS |
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Anonymous | Haven't u noticed how peckerhead.....hasn't been around,it's the same person....thats imposter Finnis24 |
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Bronze Member Username: DeafPost Number: 69 Registered: Aug-04 | Finish24 ....I never cry wolf |
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Finish 24 Unregistered guest | CAN'T U UNDERSTAND..... PECKERHEAD > IS < APPLEBEE THATS WHY U HAVENT HEARD FROM PECKERHEAD AND ONLY FROM APPLEBEE WHAT A THICK SCULL U HAVE.... |
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Bronze Member Username: DeafPost Number: 70 Registered: Aug-04 | Sorry pal i know better...... |
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Anonymous | Guys...Are you for real ?...This is better than a comic strip...Now every night after reading you , I go to bed with a smile on my face...and I want to thank you for that. |
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Beerman Unregistered guest | Why in the world would anyone post an actual working program, for hacking p4s or anything else on this site for free, when you know that it would be sent to dave with in seconds, thanks to all the posters that give advise as to what sites are rip off's and to stay away from, and before impostors, i.e. daves buddies start attacking me, i just want to say, get a life, and find out what it's like to be a man. |
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Silver Member Username: ElgringoviegoPost Number: 287 Registered: Jun-04 | James/deaf -- it's 2:10am my time, so it's got to be 5:10am your time. Just got back in town. Sorry I wasn't here earlier. Hope things are going according to Hoyle. e-mail or PM me. Ken |
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